Gas Prices?

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Stuck on $3.99 here. Opening fishing this weekend. Wonder how much gas will be 'on the water?' At some point people are just going to stay home and watch TV. Maybe that is what they want.
 

isitwinteryet

New member
$3.99 this a.m. southern mi. macomb county now it's $4.19 ouch!! where's the lube this hurts. Cost me $90 this past weekend to go north and clean the yard and cut grass, glad the beer was free!!
 

Marty P

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The wealthy elite lecture us about how any attempt to steer or negate market activity is "unwise interference," and that any impact upon social and economic conditions is as "inevitable" as Darwin found the evolution of the species to be.

Those proposing regulating or channeling economic activity are worse than ignorant; undoubtedly "socialist" in viewpoint, such persons have the nefarious design to induce "class warfare" in order to achieve "widespread redistribution of wealth" from the assumed worthy to the unworthy.

If we hope to leave our children more than an oversized trash heap, it is time responsible people woke up to the insanity.

Our current path worldwide is not sustainable; it allows a small minority to live in sumptuous (and obscene) surplus while millions of their fellow human beings struggle for each day food, housing and medical care.

Our shared morality should cry: STOP!
 
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Nothing happens if nothing happens

I'm in Dallas at the Waste Expo and T. Boone Pickens spoke this morning about our energy needs. The Middle East raises prices and we complain and moan about it and how we are going to start relying less on foreign oil and drill here, work on alternative forms of energy and all of these grand ideas. The Middle East then lowers the price of oil and we all forget about our grand ideas and things we should start working on now to some day limit our reliance on foreign oil. They have us wrapped around their little finger. This same thing happened 3 years ago and we did nothing about it. Now we are here again 3 years later and no further ahead than we were 3 years ago. Gas prices will come down again and we will go back to business as usual when we should be working on solutions to cut our reliance on foreign oil. It's a vicious cycle and we need to address it now, and the answer is not wind or solar! How many of your vehicles run on wind or solar? We need to drill here and drill now! I can't believe how blind our government currently is. Obama tells Brazil how much we support their off shore drilling and we want to be their best customer. F*#% that! If we can support Brazil in their offshore drilling with $2 billion in aid, why can't we drill here?
 

mezz

Well-known member
We need to drill here and drill now! I can't believe how blind our government currently is. Obama tells Brazil how much we support their off shore drilling and we want to be their best customer. F*#% that! If we can support Brazil in their offshore drilling with $2 billion in aid, why can't we drill here?

I've said this before & still agree with this, even after BP's blunder. We do need to sever our dependency on foreign oil. Every time there is unrest in the Middle East, we suffer the consequence. Moreover, our countrys leaders need to focus on "Our Countries Own Needs", which are many. Here we sit on a huge supply of oil resources of our own and we are not utilizing it to even a fraction of it's capabilities. Something has to give besides all of us giving at the pump & everywhere else because of it. Cost of fuel goes up, so does everything else, so goes the theory of relativity, it's time to make some serious changes.-Mezz
 

Hoosier

Well-known member
It is a world market for commodities and oil, and there are many inputs impacting the price of oil and gas, but if the President came out and said he is tired of all the money flowing overseas to buy oil and, going forward, the federal government is going to do all it can, in terms of streamlining the permit process and eliminating stupid regulations, to open the door to the exploration and refining of domestic oil, the price of oil would significantly drop instantly, just from that indication that we are actually serious about energy independence.

While he's at it, he should also announce that any and all subsidies for any source of energy are immediately off the table. All energy - oil, natural gas, wind-farms, cow farts, hydro-dams, ethanol, nuclear, must all compete on its own two feet. Let the best energy source win!

Of course this will never happen for 100 different reasons...so, it's more likely that the govt will keep talking about energy independence and keep sending billions and billions to subsidize the development of "clean energy" and finding other such unicorns. Yes, big oil got tax breaks worth $4.0 billion last year, but at the same time, ethanol got $16.0 billion.
 
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Now I am also subsidizing cow farts? This might be the straw that breaks the camel's back. I will vote for anyone in 2012 that promises to end cow farting subsidies. We have to start somewhere. Still $3.99 here.
 

Hoosier

Well-known member
I don't know if we are subsidizing those yet, but I know we have paid for studies of the emissions they create (methane) and how much global warming they cause.
 

chords

Active member
"why can't we drill here?"

"here we sit on a huge supply of oil resources"

Might be a pain in the pump now, but lets continue to use the rest of the worlds oil supply and suck them dry and when that happens the USA can become the New Oil King without the turbans.:cool:
 

ezra

Well-known member
I'm in Dallas at the Waste Expo and T. Boone Pickens spoke this morning about our energy needs. The Middle East raises prices and we complain and moan about it and how we are going to start relying less on foreign oil and drill here, work on alternative forms of energy and all of these grand ideas. The Middle East then lowers the price of oil and we all forget about our grand ideas and things we should start working on now to some day limit our reliance on foreign oil. They have us wrapped around their little finger. This same thing happened 3 years ago and we did nothing about it. Now we are here again 3 years later and no further ahead than we were 3 years ago. Gas prices will come down again and we will go back to business as usual when we should be working on solutions to cut our reliance on foreign oil. It's a vicious cycle and we need to address it now, and the answer is not wind or solar! How many of your vehicles run on wind or solar? We need to drill here and drill now! I can't believe how blind our government currently is. Obama tells Brazil how much we support their off shore drilling and we want to be their best customer. F*#% that! If we can support Brazil in their offshore drilling with $2 billion in aid, why can't we drill here?
It was not about supporting Brazil drilling it was pay pack to George Soros.dont think so start looking in to it
 

ezra

Well-known member
Yes, big oil got tax breaks worth $4.0 billion last year, but at the same time, ethanol got $16.0 billion.

Big diff oil got to deduct 4 billion off the top for many reasons .corn gas got a check huge diff one is a deduction one is wellfare. big oil gets NO checks they leave those for corps like GE who get huge checks for playing with wind power and then pay no tax
 

Hoosier

Well-known member
Big diff oil got to deduct 4 billion off the top for many reasons .corn gas got a check huge diff one is a deduction one is wellfare. big oil gets NO checks they leave those for corps like GE who get huge checks for playing with wind power and then pay no tax

I agree 100%. Accelerated depreciation (tax deferral that the big oil companies and many other companies receive) is a lot different from the handouts (welfare) big corn and others get.
 

polarisrider1

New member
Sad day, (today) when I felt I got a deal for a gallon of gas for under $4.00, $3.99 to be exact. $96 to fill pickup. avg. this 2 times a week, plus the wifes car.
 

Skylar

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Staff member
A problem at a refinery in Joliet IL is why prices have jumped here in south central Wi. Up 10-20 cents in the last 2 days. Weird how those problems occur right before a holiday weekend eh?
 
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