Here's the New 2017 Ski Doo's

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Hoosier

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momoney2123 said:
Never heard of such a thing. To my understanding that was for series 3 engines.

I kno the anti doo people will try to derail a positive thread about new stuff as usual
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I wish Poo had such a program. It would have helped me out at one time.

I'm not anti doo at all. It's their owners that annoy me.
 
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journeyman

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Hoosier said:
I wish Poo had such a program. It would have helped me out at one time.

I'm not anti doo at all. It's their owners that annoy me.
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Same here. Don't know why but it's my experience in this industry I find many people that own the number one brand try to rub everyone else with the I'm better than you attitude. I saw the same though when other brands were on top too. I am not anti-Doo, it still is my #2 choice and what I grew up on. I think they have some of the sharpest looking sleds on the market and good ride too. What momoney said, get the extended warranty and you are fine. To say the 800 block hasn't had issues makes me laugh. That's likely because you got rid of it before the warranty was out. I do know one guy that got 7500 miles before his popped but they eventually all do if you keep them long enough. I have close to 15,000 miles on my 4s machine right now. Can't say many 2 strokes can get there without a rebuild. Just the way it is.

As for the 4s Doo crowd, I know a good handful of 1200 Doo owners that are salivating for a 1200 turbo version but I just don't see it happening. Doo has made it clear they are a 2 stroke company first and foremost.
 
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momoney2123

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Facebook pulled all the vids. Not sure all the details i hope its not just mxzx and summit that gets new gen chasssis and 850. Little disappointed if they dont bring the renegade 137 track option as well. Freeride and xrs are staying in xs with 800. Rumor mill is 5 year warranty or option for turbo with 6month warranty. May thro all chips in pot if thats the case. May be summit option only tho. Engine appears to be built for boost. Beefier rods pistons and crank, clutch and more fuel. Hmmmmm
 
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ezra

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I would bet the farm no oem is going to warranty a boosted 2st. the reeds and labor slapping them in alone would take most profits out of the sale. now add the guy who is out of gas and says well I got to get home
 
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momoney2123

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Find out tomorrow night all the details. Turbo 850 would be pretty wicked, but yea not sure that would go well on flatlands without a splash of good fuel.
 
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snoluver1

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momoney2123 said:
Part of me wonders tho if they planned these "leaks" and have something bigger to unveil tomorrow
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How else would you suppose the info got out? Lol

I agree with ezra, i cant see an oem 2 smoke turbo with a warranty. Seems that market would be pretty small anyway. No need for it at see level and a lot of guys out west may "wish" they had one but at the end of the day realize its more headache than they really want to deal with.
 
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dothedoo

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journeyman said:
As for the 4s Doo crowd, I know a good handful of 1200 Doo owners that are salivating for a 1200 turbo version but I just don't see it happening. Doo has made it clear they are a 2 stroke company first and foremost.
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I'm not sure why making the best 4 strokes, and best 2 strokes makes them a 2 stroke company first and foremost?

The 4S Doo crowd is quite happy, though yes, many would like a 150hp + 4s. But, that would cut 800 Etec sales substantially so it probably won't happen.
 
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A turbo would be easy, but surely not cheap. Throw in a electronic boost controller would take care of octane issues for low elevation, but the boost would have to be low and the HP not worth the price of the turbo system, especially with a EBC. Boost would have to be nonadjustable whether it came with a warranty or not.

I just can't see doo doing it, but who knows? Would be pretty cool, but I bet not even close to worth the added cost. Im not sure what doo turbo kits cost, but you can get a pretty decent turbo kit for a poo 800 for $4k. From at least 3 companies.
 
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journeyman

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dothedoo said:
I'm not sure why making the best 4 strokes, and best 2 strokes makes them a 2 stroke company first and foremost?

The 4S Doo crowd is quite happy, though yes, many would like a 150hp + 4s. But, that would cut 800 Etec sales substantially so it probably won't happen.
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The best 4s? They are good but the best? I think we need Nick Keller to take one to 100,000 miles first before you can make that claim.
 
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momoney2123

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Whats with the scoop next to the riders right knee? Need more air by silencer sure points to you kno what.

I guess unless the intake is now on the right side of sled
 
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journeyman

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The Doo 1200 4s motor was designed by McLaren, the Indy Car racing/auto company. When it first came to BRP it did have much more HP. It was de-tuned with the long intakes and the single throttle body. Even in modified form it still has that lag or hesitation because of the long intake track. I see this as a two fold situation. Did Doo want it to out perform their e-tec 800? Also it was a design issue with fitting the motor in the chassis with the proper center of gravity. Ski-Doo has done a fine job at getting their machines to handle well and I think they learned their center of gravity physics back in the day with the rotary valve Rotax 2s motor. With the intake so low where the rotary valve was and the carbs down to match the intake, it had to be mounted higher in the chassis and caused severe body roll. That's why those sweet running rotary motors went away in lue of the reed valve 2s motors. It came at the same time when the first Rev chassis rolled out.
 
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scoot

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journeyman said:
Same here. Don't know why but it's my experience in this industry I find many people that own the number one brand try to rub everyone else with the I'm better than you attitude. I saw the same though when other brands were on top too.
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Yep, every brand has had their time in the number one spotlight. Undecided people follow the herd and change brands all the time. Kudos to the long term hardcore Doo guys though. Not the recent ones that jumped on the bandwagon, but the hardcore guys that rode Doos back when no one else could understand why. They finally get to bore people with their number one bravado. :D
 
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lenny

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journeyman said:
The Doo 1200 4s motor was designed by McLaren, the Indy Car racing/auto company. When it first came to BRP it did have much more HP. It was de-tuned with the long intakes and the single throttle body. Even in modified form it still has that lag or hesitation because of the long intake track. I see this as a two fold situation. Did Doo want it to out perform their e-tec 800? Also it was a design issue with fitting the motor in the chassis with the proper center of gravity. Ski-Doo has done a fine job at getting their machines to handle well and I think they learned their center of gravity physics back in the day with the rotary valve Rotax 2s motor. With the intake so low where the rotary valve was and the carbs down to match the intake, it had to be mounted higher in the chassis and caused severe body roll. That's why those sweet running rotary motors went away in lue of the reed valve 2s motors. It came at the same time when the first Rev chassis rolled out.
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very good post, Doo does a great job of low center of gravity which results in a very stable ride. I like their 1200 very much so. I don't like it better or worse the Yamaha motor, just different.
 
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