Just Plain Nuts!!

[gary_in_neenah]

Ahh, well at that price, it's a Trimotor!
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Ford Tri-Motor - N414H

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N414H was originally owned by Ford Motor Co. For a number of years it was based at …
(click →) Valle Airport (40G) in Valle, Arizona, and used in 2008 and 2009 for flight instruction and type ratings!

Nash, the E.A.A. in Oshkosh own one those and they fly it every summer. Very slow though, not going anywhere very fast.

 

[old abe]

Ahh, well at that price, it's a Trimotor!
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Ford Tri-Motor - N414H

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N414H was originally owned by Ford Motor Co. For a number of years it was based at …
(click →) Valle Airport (40G) in Valle, Arizona, and used in 2008 and 2009 for flight instruction and type ratings!

Who said Henry didn't know how to fly, Eh! Always been a intriguing aircraft.

 

[brad460]

Do the people who are buying up all the toilet paper realize they can just take a shower if they run out of toilet paper?

The people stocking up on toilet paper are not thinking rationally...so guessing they wouldn’t realize that...lol

 

[eagle1]

Bi-plane, but they give you a hat and goggles to use on the flight.

Yes, it is jet service. CRJ's

Lol. Good one John.

 

[pclark]

Just a thought, why does the government feel that they have to be the ones to shut down the airlines, limit public gatherings, note: MLB, NBA, NHL, March Madness, Disney Land. Is this the beginning of socialism? Whats next? Tanks rolling down the streets proclaiming martial law?

I think we should postpone the election in November as well.

People often ask me why I would consider moving to the Northwoods and retiring there. After this week and the beating everyone has taken that is where I am heading for some cabin time next week. Looking forward to getting away from the madness of this week where people took a major hit to their retirement portfolios and had their lives upended for what?

Perhaps we should all just turn off all the media. I think all the normal people have had it up to here with them. In a few weeks I think there might be some folks that are going to look a little silly.

The numbers just don't add up, World population of around 6 billion, 120,000 coronavirus cases as of today (Much smaller than a normal flu season) Don't quote me on those figures but I think they are close.

Never seen anything like this but I think this is the new norm so we best get used to it. My daughter is supposed to be getting married on a cruise that we have booked for 3/28 out of San Juan and we have not made a decision yet. Thinking by the time it sails (If the cruise line, Royal Carribean, doesn't cancel it) it might be at 50% capacity and that would actually be nice to have the ship to ourselves.

Looking forward to an early ice out this year!

 

[przes1]

Was at Potawatomi yesterday and no empty seats at blackjack tables. hopefully it will clear some people out so I can have some elbow room

 

[euphoric1]

I have a question.... and I still think it a overreaction and panic fueled by the media but in light of all of the organizations postponing, limiting, closing both temporarily or until further notice i.e. Disneyland going to close until the end of march, opening day being pushed out until 2 weeks from now, besides the fact I think it is an over reaction and only going to cause a whole slew of problems both for the economy, jobs, finances...etc. Are they really that stupid to think that closing for 2 weeks or whatever is really going to curb the spread, when 2 weeks from now the amount of active cases will be far greater than they are now, hence making more people likely to be exposed to the virus? either I am missing something or I just don't get it. and you are barring people from going to one place, they will just find another to go to, do or attend. Again what does this accomplish?

 

[xcr440]

I agree - I am not changing my daily life for this - if enough people are staying home, and not going anywhere, my odds of having a good time have just quadrupled!

 

[gary_in_neenah]

Again what does this accomplish?

Not much but it seems to make people feel like we're doing something, anything. I agree, two weeks is not going to change much. The media needs a new horse to beat and move on to the next crisis.

Now here's my question. What good does the travel ban from Europe do? If we're still allowing U.S. citizens to return from Europe wouldn't we be exposed just the same? Again, I'm not being political just wondering.

 

[Admin]

I have a question.... and I still think it a overreaction and panic fueled by the media but in light of all of the organizations postponing, limiting, closing both temporarily or until further notice i.e. Disneyland going to close until the end of march, opening day being pushed out until 2 weeks from now, besides the fact I think it is an over reaction and only going to cause a whole slew of problems both for the economy, jobs, finances...etc. Are they really that stupid to think that closing for 2 weeks or whatever is really going to curb the spread, when 2 weeks from now the amount of active cases will be far greater than they are now, hence making more people likely to be exposed to the virus? either I am missing something or I just don't get it. and you are barring people from going to one place, they will just find another to go to, do or attend. Again what does this accomplish?

Any closures or postponements now in place can be extended easily and probably will. I also expect way more of this nature, just on a smaller, more local scale.

I actually think it is a great idea. The US is learning from other countries that had the first cases. In Italy, 12,462 cases and 1016 deaths. Highest mortality rate of any infected country so far. If you are thinking: "Well, Italy, they must have a sub-par health care system". The WHO ranks their system second best in the world. The US 37.

In Italy, they basically put a ban on just about any gathering and when that into effect, the hardest hit northern sections of the country have seen a HUGE reduction. I read it was either no new cases or no new deaths since the restrictions went into place.

China has seen similar results.

So we are adopting policies that have shown to work. Too many time we are a reactive nation and not proactive. This time proactive and I think much of our nation is just not accustomed to it and are joking about it. The TP thing I still do not understand, but to limit events which could lead to rapid transmission is a great idea in my opinion. I would rather see a sting in the economy, than a collapse if this thing were to get out of hand.

-John

 

[dfattack]

Not much but it seems to make people feel like we're doing something, anything. I agree, two weeks is not going to change much. The media needs a new horse to beat and move on to the next crisis.

Now here's my question. What good does the travel ban from Europe do? If we're still allowing U.S. citizens to return from Europe wouldn't we be exposed just the same? Again, I'm not being political just wondering.

I think 70% of the new cases in the U.S. are due to exposure from travelers from EU nations. You can't stop our citizens from returning home so they are allowed to re-enter. It's a ban on non residents and non-citizens. This would substantially reduce the risk while still allowing our citizens to come home. Our friends had a son visiting in Amsterdam and he came right home when the ban was instituted just in case the ban parameters changed. We have a daughter studying in Ireland this semester and while Ireland is exempt we are still wondering what to do. Some of her fellow students from the U.S. went home. Their parents didn't want to risk it. Crazy times.

 

[old abe]

Any closures or postponements now in place can be extended easily and probably will. I also expect way more of this nature, just on a smaller, more local scale.

I actually think it is a great idea. The US is learning from other countries that had the first cases. In Italy, 12,462 cases and 1016 deaths. Highest mortality rate of any infected country so far. If you are thinking: "Well, Italy, they must have a sub-par health care system". The WHO ranks their system second best in the world. The US 37.

In Italy, they basically put a ban on just about any gathering and when that into effect, the hardest hit northern sections of the country have seen a HUGE reduction. I read it was either no new cases or no new deaths since the restrictions went into place.

China has seen similar results.

So we are adopting policies that have shown to work. Too many time we are a reactive nation and not proactive. This time proactive and I think much of our nation is just not accustomed to it and are joking about it. The TP thing I still do not understand, but to limit events which could lead to rapid transmission is a great idea in my opinion. I would rather see a sting in the economy, than a collapse if this thing were to get out of hand.

-John

Very well said John, and true. We need to be just, and honest on this. It is real, and "could" become explosive, if worse comes to worse. Note, I said "could". Not be overblown, but utmost, not to be in denial, or unrealistic!

 

[G]

Italy also has a higher concentration of old people. That is a factor for them also. They want to slow it down here in the US so that the hospitals do not get overwhelmed. So that is why all these big gatherings are being canceled or postponed. Spread it out. Also when warm weather gets here that is also supposed to help. So time can be on our side just as long as there isn't a huge spike in new cases.
I have my own theory on the transmission of the virus. Since it is airborne surface area is important. The bigger the surface the greater the chance of infection. So that means that big fat people will get the virus before skinny little folks. Plus drink a little bleach now and then.

 

[gary_in_neenah]

I think 70% of the new cases in the U.S. are due to exposure from travelers from EU nations. You can't stop our citizens from returning home so they are allowed to re-enter. It's a ban on non residents and non-citizens.

Yes, just found the answer to my own question. They're testing all U.S. Citizens and any that are positive are not allowed back in for the time being.

 

[euphoric1]

I think 70% of the new cases in the U.S. are due to exposure from travelers from EU nations. You can't stop our citizens from returning home so they are allowed to re-enter. It's a ban on non residents and non-citizens.

Yes, just found the answer to my own question. They're testing all U.S. Citizens and any that are positive are not allowed back in for the time being.

Not entirely true, on news this morning people stuck on cruise shop from Wisconsin are going to be brought back to the state, not to initial designated quarantine areas. if gestation period is 2 weeks leave them either on the ship or to designated quarantine areas, the travel risk has been known for weeks now, if you choose to travel and you contract the virus why should everyone elses health be put at risk by bringing them back, and then you have the guy who boarded plane knowing he was infected and now everyone on that plane is at risk and he is permanently banned from flying, that's just too bad. you want to cut the chance and speed at which it travels, use your head, if you are sick... STAY HOME... wash your hands, practice good hygene, shutting down events may slow it but its peoples ignorance that will continue to advance it. IMO

 

[Lake County]

Any closures or postponements now in place can be extended easily and probably will. I also expect way more of this nature, just on a smaller, more local scale.

I actually think it is a great idea. The US is learning from other countries that had the first cases. In Italy, 12,462 cases and 1016 deaths. Highest mortality rate of any infected country so far. If you are thinking: "Well, Italy, they must have a sub-par health care system". The WHO ranks their system second best in the world. The US 37.

In Italy, they basically put a ban on just about any gathering and when that into effect, the hardest hit northern sections of the country have seen a HUGE reduction. I read it was either no new cases or no new deaths since the restrictions went into place.

China has seen similar results.

So we are adopting policies that have shown to work. Too many time we are a reactive nation and not proactive. This time proactive and I think much of our nation is just not accustomed to it and are joking about it. The TP thing I still do not understand, but to limit events which could lead to rapid transmission is a great idea in my opinion. I would rather see a sting in the economy, than a collapse if this thing were to get out of hand.

-John

Totally agree. Well said.

 

[dfattack]

Not entirely true, on news this morning people stuck on cruise shop from Wisconsin are going to be brought back to the state, not to initial designated quarantine areas. if gestation period is 2 weeks leave them either on the ship or to designated quarantine areas, the travel risk has been known for weeks now, if you choose to travel and you contract the virus why should everyone elses health be put at risk by bringing them back, and then you have the guy who boarded plane knowing he was infected and now everyone on that plane is at risk and he is permanently banned from flying, that's just too bad. you want to cut the chance and speed at which it travels, use your head, if you are sick... STAY HOME... wash your hands, practice good hygene, shutting down events may slow it but its peoples ignorance that will continue to advance it. IMO

Of course. I was referring to non-infected citizens or permanent residents

 

[euphoric1]

I just want to clarify.... the post quoted originally posted by gary_in_neenah that starts with not entirely true was not posted by him, I just want to clarify because his views may not be same as mine and I don't want anyone looking a certain way towards him because of it. I did a reply with quote and somehow it tagged his name to my post, Im sorry if this caused any problems and Im not sure how this happened and just want to clarify or make it right.

 

[DamageInc]

I actually think it is a great idea. The US is learning from other countries that had the first cases. In Italy, 12,462 cases and 1016 deaths. Highest mortality rate of any infected country so far. If you are thinking: "Well, Italy, they must have a sub-par health care system". The WHO ranks their system second best in the world. The US 37.


-John

WHO is full of crap. Talk to someone who has worked within their health care system. They have systemic cultural issues, and don't respect infections like we do in the states. Like doctors who don't scrub down before surgery, third-world stuff.

 

[gary_in_neenah]

I just want to clarify.... the post quoted originally posted by gary_in_neenah that starts with not entirely true was not posted by him, I just want to clarify because his views may not be same as mine and I don't want anyone looking a certain way towards him because of it. I did a reply with quote and somehow it tagged his name to my post, Im sorry if this caused any problems and Im not sure how this happened and just want to clarify or make it right.

Yeah, I saw that too. It's all good and thanks for being up front.