Like a festering boil on my butt.
I haven't watched any for exactly that reason.
Not necessarily. At several points along this ride, several sheriffs have said they wouldn't enforce the dictator's orders.
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Like a festering boil on my butt.
I haven't watched any for exactly that reason.
Not necessarily. At several points along this ride, several sheriffs have said they wouldn't enforce the dictator's orders.
In MI this spring, they froze all spending for wheeled trail maintenance/grooming. Locked the bathrooms that are at the parking lots. Told the Clubs not to perform any work. Half way through the season we were able to get things rolling in the program enough to do half of our normal work.
People still rode, but things sure took a beating. Plus we were not able (officially) to be out there making things safe (brushing/signing/etc.) until mid summer.. It's not yet hit the snowmobile program, but there is serious concern they will try to do the same thing. I don't know of a good solution other than to keep pressure on our legislators and hope they can make a dent. If program funds are "frozen" by the State, clubs can't afford the fuel to groom..
We still have goofball rules in place, like the 5 page document we had to sign saying we understood all of the necessary precautions and promised to sanitize the handlebars, hand and foot levers and the seat, before we let another trail worker use the club quad.
People still rode, but things sure took a beating. Plus we were not able (officially) to be out there making things safe (brushing/signing/etc.) until mid summer.. It's not yet hit the snowmobile program, but there is serious concern they will try to do the same thing. I don't know of a good solution other than to keep pressure on our legislators and hope they can make a dent. If program funds are "frozen" by the State, clubs can't afford the fuel to groom..
We still have goofball rules in place, like the 5 page document we had to sign saying we understood all of the necessary precautions and promised to sanitize the handlebars, hand and foot levers and the seat, before we let another trail worker use the club quad.
WorkHardPlayHrd
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Why do you need to sanitize the foot levers? Something going on we don't know about?
goofy600
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So you think with online learning that 1 teacher can teach hundreds of kid at one time now? Who is going to do all the grading this same 1 teacher? Do think that is going to happen!
You didn't read about "covid toes" earlier this year in the MSM panic? ;-)
It's always fun with Govt "is here to help" and forces one-size rules to "fit 'em all". Clearly a bunch of dirt bikes, ATVs and hand tools were not in consideration when they made us sign and agree to these steps:
Equipment/Vehicles/Tools - Guidelines for Operating Equipment, Vehicles & Tools
o Workers shall “clean in and clean out” when working on site.
o The common touch points in shared motor vehicle or equipment should be
sanitized between users. Disinfectant wipes (Clorox, Lysol, Purell, etc) are handy
for wiping down steering wheels, arm rests, controls, etc.
o Avoid multiple workers riding in the same vehicle.
o Purchase sanitizing wipes (65% + alcohol) for every vehicle in the fleet
o Prior to using the vehicle use a sanitizing wipe to clean all surfaces that may be
touched by yourself or another person using the vehicle. Surfaces that could be touched include:
�� Steering wheel
�� Door handles
�� Turn signals and wiper controls
�� Climate control knobs
�� On board control panel/FM radio controls �� Keys
�� Shift handle
�� Brake lever (if present)
�� Sun visor
�� Dashboard
�� Glove box handle
�� Center console
�� Tractor Controls
o Upon departing the vehicle, wipe down common touch points listed above.
o Workers should wash hands with soap and water after using a vehicle.
o Utility vehicles such as gators should be single rider only, with or without a cab. o All hand tools should be sanitized before and after use utilizing disinfectant
sprays or wipes.
Do you think LEO REALLY want that to be part of their job or seriously will enforce it? If so, you never worked around police officers. Where exactly were the BLM rallies that you've been attending?
xsledder
Active member
Question, all you hear about are the cases and positivity rate in Wisconsin keeps going up. I would like to hear from real people (not the news media) if the hospitals are "bursting at the seams" with Covid cases. I can never find reliable information on Covid hospitalizations in the Wisconsin northwoods. What do you see happening outside the population centers like Milwaukee? Is the hospital in Minocqua (Howard Young) or Eagle River (Ascension) "bursting at the seams" with Covid patients? Or are they moved to Rhinelander or Wausau? What about around Hayward? Thanks.
(PS - I figured it was safe to ask this question with MP MIA for a few weeks.)
(PS - I figured it was safe to ask this question with MP MIA for a few weeks.)
I was a patient ina hospital in sheboygan two weeks ago.none covid. I found no signs of the rooms being over run.lots of rooms empty. I was also in the E.R. twice afterwards and found that area very busy. Mostly walk ins wanting to get thier runny nose checked out. Granted that was two weeks ago and things may have changed.
xsledder, I understand not wanting to hear the media's version as the "fear mongering" continues, but even if you listen to what they have to say...its my understanding there are between 13,000 and 15,000 hospital beds in the state, and if you do go as the media says there are just over 3000 beds occupied by covid patients 19% of those in ICU, so wait a minute 13,000 - 15,000 beds? 3000 - 4000 beds occupied?? overwhelmed?? don't have to be a genius to not understand how this is overwhelming, maybe its worse in specific towns/cities but... oh and lets not forget the "17" patients in the 24 million dollar hospital employed by 400 people in milwukee. they are once again stopping elective surgeries, then there was a doctor and I don't remember where in Wisconsin it was stating they are dangerously short on PPE because they didn't plan carefully enough ahead of time, didn't stockpile. That sounds like human error not covid's fault. I also had heard and yes on "media" so take it for what its worth, 30% of health care workers are working while positive with covid, WAIT A MINUTE.. of all places, of all people how is this possible? yet mask up everyone!! Hospitals also complaining of being short staffed, how about calling all the furlowed workers back to work. So if you listen to the stats the "media" puts out there, Overwhelmed?? we have bigger issues IMO
pclark
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We install seamless liquid flooring in Hospitals all over the country and we are busy. Installations get used back but I think its more because of budgetary concerns, not the hospitals being overrun with patients. We've never heard nurses or facilities managers tell us that COVID was taking over the hospital. It's really just business as usual as far as I can see. The last one we did two weeks ago was in Biloxi, MS and what I saw down there was the mask mandates and such were very loose and people seemed just do what they pleased. Wearing masks is a hassle but in Wisconsin I see that most people that wear them. The thing I get a little perturbed with is being told every waking minute of every day that we need to mask up, wash our hands, social distance, etc. We are all adults and pretty doing this for the most part in my observations. It would be interesting to see what TV stations news program ratings are these days as I think people have stopped watching them.
WorkHardPlayHrd
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In Barron and Rice Lake 25 to 30 percent of health care workers are out of commission either because they have Covid, or are an immediate contact with someone who does. Like their children. That is directly from a provider that works up there. It's not so much the beds. It's the current lack of staff right now.
harvest1121
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I know in Illinois a health care worker can be positive for the Chinese virus but still work if they are not showing symptoms. Seems kinda screwed up to me a nurse told me that most of her hospital beds people are over 400 pounds and drug addicts that have the virus.
ICT Sledder
Active member
Many LEO's are absolutely happy to enforce the covid stuff. Are you kidding? Plenty of videos out there. You're talking about a group of people that by and large enjoy and are attracted to authoritarianism, and the covid regs are just another arrow in their quiver to lord over the public. Certainly not all of them, but A LOT of them.
All I am saying is that you can't complain about the onerous regulations being forced upon us by an overbearing government, AND lionize LEO's with sainthood. They are literally two sides of the same coin. Law enforcement - over the history of humanity - is how big government and regimes force their will on the common man. Law enforcement is a necessary evil that must be restrained and monitored.
And please with the BLM stuff. You know there's really two groups to the right side of the political spectrum, right? Those who like themselves some big government from a right-leaning perspective, and those who generally just want the government to do basic things like infrastructure and defense and otherwise screw off and stay out of people's lives. I'm part of the latter group.
X2. The staff is short, not the beds available.
I see there were over 900 staff at Maya clinic that tested positive(over last 2 weeks). Of the 905 cases, 93 percent of them are due to "community spread".
I know LEO's on both sides of the spectrum, just like everything else these days.
And yeah, I'm on the latter, we will never get everyone to agree to that, which is why we are where we are.
My Wife ran into one of those cops back when the covid first hit. He was parked in a private non-profit organization parking lot. MY wife always parks there to walk or take a bike ride (her parents are members) Cop drove up to her and told her that it was a private place and it was closed do to lockdown. I am surprised, but my wife did put him in his place. She said he was a dink about it. That is some of the things cops do that put a bad taste in a person mouth like her that has never done anything more than a few speeding tickets her whole life.
So...you have to wonder then, if this "covid" this is so dangerous, and even health care workers are getting it and "93%" percent of that 900 staff are getting it due to community spread, heck its running rampid at the capital "6" and I say again "6" lawmakers now have it, yes "6" and its running rampid there! did they think they were somehow immune?? are these healthcare workers being completely careless when not at work? not wearing masks? not sanitizing or washing hands? hanging out with people who have it? the very things they preach we can do to prevent it or slow its progress? I highly doubt it, being that they are front and center and see how deadly it is. This covid thing is real yes, people are UNFORTUNATELY dying from it but when are we going to admit.... ITS A VIRUS and you cant stop it, it will find a way, our bodies are constantly fighting off bacteria, germs, viruses and diseases.
I wonder if they hired back any of the staff they let go last spring....
Are those same people they let go, qualified for ICU?
Good question. Nobody says WHAT they are short staffed for, just "short staffed". Any insight?
On a side note, MN DNR told us to STOP safety training. Apparently having 3 kids at a time with two instructors socially distant with masks on sitting at their own tables in a 30x50 garage is too close. This includes the outdoor driving test we usually do in December.