Michigan Snowmobile Association MSA

russholio

Well-known member
Thanks, Ezra. I did the search from my phone while in the waiting room at the doctor's office and wasn't logged in, maybe that's why it didn't turn anything up.
 

uncle_ed

Active member
I have to believe there is a membership issue that is hurting the MSA for them to resort to the scare tactics they used in the recent issue of their magazine. I think they do a lot of good for our sport but it would go on without them. We do need to have an organization like them to do the "dirty work" for those of us that do not have the time or resources to fight for snowmobiler rights but there could be a better job done with transparency in what they do and how monies are spent. I feel like there is a disconnect with the organization and the grassroots riders that support them which may be the cause of some bad feelings voiced over on the HCS thread here. There is no better way to get what you want done than to get involved and if that cant be any more than joining a club or supporting the MSA than by all means do that. I personally am an MSA member and would like to see them do more to show they are listening to me and other sledders through their website and magazine by trying new things to show they here us. I know you can click the link to contact them and shoot them an e-mail, but what about a blog or editorial section much like "firing line" with the mucc where they print what the members have to say whether it be good, bad or indifferent about the the sport or whatever may be in the news at the time. Maybe a suggestion box or question and answers section that gets published etc. Some other sort of interaction thats more one on one and gets people involved.
 

Woodtic

Active member
Well said Uncle Ed. Snowmobiling is a cash cow for the state of Michigan . Hobby for us,yes. Multi million $ industry for the state of MI, heck ya. Save me the BS. Shut down snowmobiling for a year. There is a reason we have trucks and trailers. We will just ride somewhere else. Michigan is finally starting to realize this with ATV trails.
 

russholio

Well-known member
Some may ride elsewhere, some may not. I know I can't personally afford to make multiple trips a year out of state. Heck, I don't even make multiple trips to the Yoop for that very reason. Obviously I don't speak for everybody.
 

russholio

Well-known member
I may ride, or I may not. If I did it would be severely scaled back and I certainly wouldn't own two sleds and a trailer for the sake of 1 or 2 trips a year (if I decided to ride at all -- it would also depend in part on whether my already too small group of riding buds decided to stay in it). I do agree that common logic would say the state can't afford to not have snowmobiling -- but few people with functioning brain cells ever accused the government of using logic.

All this being said, there were some interesting posts on the HCS thread. I empathize with those who have issues with MSA. I don't always agree with things they've done, either. But you can't please all the people all the time and in the grand scheme of things, I think we're better off with them than without them. No, they're not perfect but I don't think they're the great Satan that some on HCS make them out to be.
 

Woodtic

Active member
No the MSA isn't the devil. The " send me money or we will fold and you won't be able to ride again." I'm not sure they will recover from that ignorant Attitude . The reason I have so much time to burn,is a crane is 3 hours late. Just got a text saying another hour. I should run down the street and grab a football size burrito . This site helps me burn time and Lenny gave me a great lunch idea. Sorry for the high jack , bored and hungry. I am a few blocks from Greek Town,hmm.
 

russholio

Well-known member
No the MSA isn't the devil. The " send me money or we will fold and you won't be able to ride again."

Agreed. I would think, and hope, they could come up with a better marketing strategy than that.

Grab that burrito and you may be out of commission the rest of the day! :p
 

Woodtic

Active member
Bingo,if that's the mouth peace speaking on behalf of sledders in MI, MSA will fail. On the subject of lunch. I went with Billy Goat double cheese burger. Mainly because of parking. Parking a 2500 down here is a pain in the a$$. I should tell the boss to get me a Subaru, much easier to park. The Porto John on the job site also helped in the lunch choice.
 

snoluver1

Active member
Bingo,if that's the mouth peace speaking on behalf of sledders in MI, MSA will fail. On the subject of lunch. I went with Billy Goat double cheese burger. Mainly because of parking. Parking a 2500 down here is a pain in the a$$. I should tell the boss to get me a Subaru, much easier to park. The Porto John on the job site also helped in the lunch choice.

If ya got nothing better to do, I'll take one of those Billy Goat cheeseburgers...no onion. I'm at Lake and Wabash. ;)
 

snoluver1

Active member
Well thanks for nothin' woodtic. I ended up going with Gold Coast Dogs. I was unimpressed to say the least.
....wait, what was this thread about again?
 

Woodtic

Active member
Sorry Adam ,got busy. Next time go to Lake and Michigan ,NE corner. They have a food court on the second floor with everything. Tomorrow I will be in Bellwood. I will buy you rib tips and a grape crush if you are in the area.:) I'm thinking this thread is done. Should we start a new one,lunch with Paul and Adam?
 

Dave_B

Active member
Not buying the Subaru. Sorry WT.
Won't be at the show. Got 2 added hockey games added to the weekend. You guys can do a raffle for who gets the beer(s) Wayne was buying me.

As far as the MSA goes. Was a member forever and I have been buying my trail stickers from them but stopped paying the dues when the magazine, and content, went to crap. Just my position on the subject so, unless you are out in the garage with Lenny, save it.
Support whoever you want.
 

polarisrider1

New member
Not buying the Subaru. Sorry WT.
Won't be at the show. Got 2 added hockey games added to the weekend. You guys can do a raffle for who gets the beer(s) Wayne was buying me.

As far as the MSA goes. Was a member forever and I have been buying my trail stickers from them but stopped paying the dues when the magazine, and content, went to crap. Just my position on the subject so, unless you are out in the garage with Lenny, save it.
Support whoever you want.
So???? do I go to the "will call" booth for my Free ticket then Dave?
 

snoluver1

Active member
I will buy you rib tips and a grape crush if you are in the area.:)

Haha, thanks for the offer! I'll have to take a rain check. I'll be spitting distance from the house tomorrow.

And now back to our regular scheduled programming. .....
 

pinestump

Member
His numbers are totally off. The membership is down but nothing like he made up. Take a look at the list of club memberships and you will see the support. Remember Michigan is coming out of tough times. Paying for food has come first for many. As the flow of money in our pockets increases so does things like memberships and donations.
Also take note of the commercial members list on the web site.
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Ok I will bit what was the membership and what is it today since you have the answers?
 

uncle_ed

Active member
After contacting the msa membership is:

Active MSA members as follows:
· Single 1433
· Family 6106
· Life 2080
· Commercial 336
· Clubs 100
Very sad…………..Knowing how many folks use the trails…
 

uncle_ed

Active member
As the op stated the MSA needs our support. I encourage anyone going to the Novi snow show that is not currently a member to stop by their booth and sign up and get your trail passes from them as well. You may not agree with everything they do but just like the candidate that you didnt vote for that got elected, ultimately they now represent you so support them and work to get the changes made you feel are important to you. There is work needed at the legislative level that needs to be handled and I see no other group doing more for us so they get my support until someone else steps up and grabs the reins.
 
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