More ethanol woes

[towtruck]

even consumer reports gave ethanol a big thumbs down- according to them 100%ethanol in fact has about 40% less btu's per gallon and as a result carbs are going to run leaner and efi's are going to use more fuel-when blended at 10% or whatever the blend is.
I think the real problem is we are all on edge because we have little snow to ride on but that is changing so we should be good!!

 

[G]

Thought you said you were getting out of this thread moose. You probably should. The practical experience of others outweighs your flimflam. You should also do some homework on exactly how many acres of farmland have been idled to enable farmers to get rich and help the oil barons to prosper. Where I come from nothing is idle. Nothing. For many years. Ethanol is an inferior product promoted by an inferior government for a gullible private sector. The reason it has come to light in this forum is that we use seasonal toys and we are the ones on the front lines that notice this crap that is supposed to pass for fuel. Ethanol is crap. It always has been. The fact that machines are actually being designed to run on it is a testament to how incredibly stupid our governing bodies are. We had something that was good. Now let's spend a lot more money to make something that is bad and make our new stuff run on it. Insanity. I'm glad your toys run. However if faced with a life or death situation I will use my toys instead.

 

[doodad]

Thought you said you were getting out of this thread moose. You probably should. The practical experience of others outweighs your flimflam. You should also do some homework on exactly how many acres of farmland have been idled to enable farmers to get rich and help the oil barons to prosper. Where I come from nothing is idle. Nothing. For many years. Ethanol is an inferior product promoted by an inferior government for a gullible private sector. The reason it has come to light in this forum is that we use seasonal toys and we are the ones on the front lines that notice this crap that is supposed to pass for fuel. Ethanol is crap. It always has been. The fact that machines are actually being designed to run on it is a testament to how incredibly stupid our governing bodies are. We had something that was good. Now let's spend a lot more money to make something that is bad and make our new stuff run on it. Insanity. I'm glad your toys run. However if faced with a life or death situation I will use my toys instead.

Very well said and straight to the point....

 

[anonomoose]

Thought you said you were getting out of this thread moose. You probably should. The practical experience of others outweighs your flimflam. You should also do some homework on exactly how many acres of farmland have been idled to enable farmers to get rich and help the oil barons to prosper. Where I come from nothing is idle. Nothing. For many years. Ethanol is an inferior product promoted by an inferior government for a gullible private sector. The reason it has come to light in this forum is that we use seasonal toys and we are the ones on the front lines that notice this crap that is supposed to pass for fuel. Ethanol is crap. It always has been. The fact that machines are actually being designed to run on it is a testament to how incredibly stupid our governing bodies are. We had something that was good. Now let's spend a lot more money to make something that is bad and make our new stuff run on it. Insanity. I'm glad your toys run. However if faced with a life or death situation I will use my toys instead.

Okay Grubby...you win....Ethanol is the root of all evil. I believe it is a government conspiracy to destroy all your engines and I would not be surprised it is made specifically to create global warming and no doubt will result in taking all my guns away from me. It is bad stuff, and IF I WERE YOU...I WOULDN'T USE IT AT ALL!!! IN FACT, I WOULD HUNT HIGH AND LOW AND ONLY USE RACING FUEL IN ALL YOUR EQUIPMENT.

You win!!! I lose....dang it!

 

[Hoosier]

Deleted because I should stay out of this.

 

[trailshredder]

.....and the saga continues!!

 

[snocrazy]

Its like the Energizer Bunny..........

 

[snocrazy]

Also, Its not a win or lose. People are entitled to their own opinions. Moose is outnumbered on this one. I think we all know how you feel about this topic.

 

[latner]

I have to side with moose on this, I have never had a problem with ethanol sitting in my carbed toys/equipment. Just got the sleds out yesterday for the first time and rode both of them for an hour or so each and both had left-over gas in them from last winter. Same goes for the mower, weed eater, portable generator, Harley...never drained a tank or bowl. The one thing I do is to run a can of seafoam through everything once a year, except the mower and weed eater, and this seems to work for me.

 

[mezz]

I have to side with moose on this, I have never had a problem with ethanol sitting in my carbed toys/equipment. Just got the sleds out yesterday for the first time and rode both of them for an hour or so each and both had left-over gas in them from last winter. Same goes for the mower, weed eater, portable generator, Harley...never drained a tank or bowl. The one thing I do is to run a can of seafoam through everything once a year, except the mower and weed eater, and this seems to work for me.

I said it before, & I'll say it again, x2! Perhaps I/we have been lucky. I know that some folks have had issues because of the blended fuels, I have been fortunate to not have had them.-Mezz

 

[dickmsp]

Hey Kip and Chad, have you had anyone use the Ficths catalyst thing you drop in the gas tank and It keeps the fuel from deteriorating? If it works, how long does it work?

 

[hothyfax]

Hi guys,I am on this site daily and very seldom do i post.....But, I have had sleds since,well ever. And I live in N.E Iowa,Have a boat that sits in the water on the mississippi all summer and is stored in my machine shed all winter.I never drain tanks or carbs,and never fog.I use seafoam on a regular basis like every two or three tank fulls and have been useing the Ficths since they came out.I do not know if these two things work for sure but what I do know is I have never had one thing fuel related happen to anything I run with engines.I run everything on 89 that has 10% Eth.I must be just one lucky SOB.I could go out right now and fill one of my chain saws with gas from one of my 5 gallon plastic gas cans treated with 6 oz. of seafoam 3 moths ago and it would start on the 3rd or 4th pull..same with boat or what ever.Sorry to see so many having such bad luck with Ethanol.

 

[zltim]

I am sorry to say ethanol is crap. Period.

 

[700classic]

No, ethanol is corn. But given enough time, they may be able to make it with crap!

 

[frnash]

Hey Kip and Chad, have you had anyone use the Ficths catalyst thing …

… have been useing [sic] the Ficths since they came out. …

Ficths? What are Ficths? Google that and you find nothing!

 

[russholio]

Ficths? What are Ficths? Google that and you find nothing!

Nash, I think they might be talking about this:
http://www.fitchfuelcatalyst.com/

 

[G]

Have used them. Fitch works. And yes, Ethanol is the root of all evil. Got a drink of plain old regular in SD in wife's Edge last november. Fuel mileage indicator went up 5 mpg. No crap. There is way too much money invested in the ethanol fiasco. We are stuck with it forever. In the US anyway. Fortunately I will not be retiring in this country full of morons.

 

[fusion]

Have used them. Fitch works. And yes, Ethanol is the root of all evil. Got a drink of plain old regular in SD in wife's Edge last november. Fuel mileage indicator went up 5 mpg. No crap. There is way too much money invested in the ethanol fiasco. We are stuck with it forever. In the US anyway. Fortunately I will not be retiring in this country full of morons.

Damn straight.
If I could talk the wife into Manitoba I'd be there on at least a hundred acres with house smack dab in the middle.

 

[muss]

Can someone give me some advice on how to avoid these problems using the ethenol gas? I have always owned SKI Doo sleds
and never had any problems ever but now feel like I should be doing something diffrent, I have always run 85 or 87 with running
Occasional 91 should I always run 91 instead? I also run seafoam religiously and use seafoam to store, should I discontinue using this
As somone said this could be causing the problem as well? I am not very educated on this subject I guess.

 

[latner]

Don't sweat it. If you haven't had a problem yet, why change what you're doing. Keep using the seafoam and run whatever octane is recommended for the sleds. My skidoos are suppose to be run on 91 or higher and that's what they get.