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indy_500

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The people who choose the "sleds of the year" are riding these things with almost no miles and are bound to be the best one off the assembly line since each brand wants theirs to be the sled of the year. They don't see "reliability" as a factor.

Just think, that new chassis that comes out always is the sled of the year. 5 years from then, you look back and think about all the problems it had, then look at the magazines like their stupid for naming them the sled of the year.
 

whitedust

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Think about it guys. A locked track studded or not will not be as effective as a track controlled by an ABS type system. This has been proven time and again on skid pads with ABS controlled cars and pickups. A human blessed with human reflexes is not as efficient as a machine. Polarice said it best in that snowmobile brakes are not the best or so to speak. Sorry Polarice if this is not a direct quote. This idea likely originated in mountain riding when going down steep grades where common practice would have been to simply lock it up and skid down a hill. There is a loss of control when you are all locked up whether on a mountain or on flat land. As far as Indy is concerned absolutely build a reliable 450 lb 2 smoker that lasts. That is not what is happening. I haven't been on JD for six weeks. I have been riding. Check out where I live. Who do you suppose I have been riding with?

I do see how ABS would be benefical in the steep down hill stuff in icy conditions just not that many hills in WI & UPMI trails but world wide ABS would be a larger market for sure. I know when I do encounter steep down hills now my current Yam brake even with 4s engine braking is a pump & let off & pump again to avoid track lock up & skid. I'll take ABS actually more interested in ABS than Pro ride as most OEM rear skids work well. You somewhat hooked me....... Interesting & I want to try it.:)
 
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The only way it won't be introduced is if the powers that be say it isn't ready. It will be trumpeted as a 'SAFETY" issue and nobody else will have it for a little while. It will actually be the only new feature Pol has introduced since IFS. I do not know if it is radar controlled mechanism or simply a pumping, intermediate system like the first ABS systems on cars. I suspect it is a primitive system but the damn things stop really well with minimal studding compared to my heavily studded Yami with an experienced rider. Obviously if it is a radar controlled system it is going to ad cost. If people add studs a simple staggered pumping system will not work as well. Track selection is also huge. A 1.25 Predator is a lot different is way different than a 1.5 Rip. Obviously. But where does acceleration become more important than stopping? You still can't have it both ways. If you ride aggressively and basically never stop - it is a non-factor. However if you trail ride in groups at lower speeds this feature might be a biggy. Most people ride in groups at lower speeds. There you have it. They are going to do it. You heard it here first.
 

whitedust

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Once ABS is refined it will be a good thing but like you stated lots of variables braking & acceleration. I would like to try ABS & with the right track & studs could be a very good thing for me. Some good hills in Phelps area that I usually slide down & riders that don't know the trails have been known to roll down.lol.
 

ezra

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quoting Indy post 21. they got it some what 03 with the rev but I would still take a 03f7 over a 03 rev 800.and 04 with the M7 was hands down correct but odd for a flat lander rag to pick a M .06 the apex gt deff debatable how is that mono shock thing working out
 
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