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Sweep800

Active member
All of us old guys grew up doing this as a family sport....and we had the "family" feeling out riding with friends and club members...that has disappeared....it's become a rich person, spoiled kid sport (there are 16 year old kids riding newer, nicer sleds than I have)...unfortunately snowmobiling isn't affordable for the average family anymore...it's too expensive, and it's why Yamaha is gone, and Cat is teetering on the edge...it's a dying sport.....well...enough of the doom and gloom...I'm going to head out and ride the next three days and enjoy what's left of our season...it's most likely done come Monday....so get out and ride if you can


Doesn’t the blame fall on the manufacturer?
 

pclark

Well-known member
Enjoy your weekend Attak, I’m 68 and can definitely understand where you’re coming from. I’m not that active in our club up here because I’ve had so many things happening but the last club I was in it was always the same group of guys that did all the work, I’m sure it’s the same everywhere. I’m lucky that I can ride during the week so I can ride in relatively nice conditions but not everyone can do that and they have to put up with the entitled (not saying anyone on JD is entitled, great group of people, hope to continue to meet more of you). It will be the last weekend as I look at the forecast, I’ll be doing ice fishing until it gets to unsafe. Then, I’ve got a lot of spring time work to do. More to come on that. Enjoy your weekend everyone! Here’s a pic a of my little buddy! He makes my life the best. IMG_2642.jpeg
 

attakman

Well-known member
Doesn’t the blame fall on the manufacturer?
100 percent...making bigger, faster more expensive machines, and forgetting about the low cost, family machines...now all of them reintroduced low end models in the last 5 years.....but they arent selling well...and imo it's too late...we skipped an entire generation of potential riders...lost for good
 

Sweep800

Active member
100 percent...making bigger, faster more expensive machines, and forgetting about the low cost, family machines...now all of them reintroduced low end models in the last 5 years.....but they arent selling well...and imo it's too late...we skipped an entire generation of potential riders...lost for good
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I believe you are correct. I do actually know a younger guy that did get a Neo(I think that’s what it’s called) was refreshing to hear he did what it took to get/stay in the sport!
 

Sweep800

Active member
Enjoy your weekend Attak, I’m 68 and can definitely understand where you’re coming from. I’m not that active in our club up here because I’ve had so many things happening but the last club I was in it was always the same group of guys that did all the work, I’m sure it’s the same everywhere. I’m lucky that I can ride during the week so I can ride in relatively nice conditions but not everyone can do that and they have to put up with the entitled (not saying anyone on JD is entitled, great group of people, hope to continue to meet more of you). It will be the last weekend as I look at the forecast, I’ll be doing ice fishing until it gets to unsafe. Then, I’ve got a lot of spring time work to do. More to come on that. Enjoy your weekend everyone! Here’s a pic a of my little buddy! He makes my life the best. View attachment 71090


Handsome young man! Grandkids rock for sure! I have two myself.
 

attakman

Well-known member
It's a bummer that the trails are closing again early this year...but i did get some riding in this weekend...and it was a mixed bag...yesterday was actually really good...white, smooth trails and they were hard...some ice in the corners...a few wet spots..but decent...today...melting fast..more puddles and bare spots, trails very soft...but again decent in the woods...I wasn't burning my slides off, or smoking my carbides..not bad for 53 degrees....but i stayed away from the rail road grades..they were toast..the lake sucks..water, slush everywhere.(but plenty of ice)..I think it's done ...150 miles in 2 days...better than nothing...amazing they opened at all...the amount of downed trees was nuts...we'll be very busy in the off season, as quite a few trails were not able to open this weekend (too much damage)....its actually unbelievable how many trees are down in some of those sections...I know people who just want to ride...dont understand...its going to be hours of work in the off season...its that bad. Will we actually have a decent season next year.???..I sure hope so...but thats it folks....better than last year..but still crappy...wether or not i continue to do trail reports here, or continue with the club remains to be seen..have a lot of soul searching to do...so ...have a great off season..and maybe I'll see you next year....part of me wants to move on because john was actually a friend of mine, and my meteorologist when I worked at Wolv as the morning man (23 years ago) ..i lived in south range....I rode with him, and considered him a friend, and this site took off like a rocket...he loved snowmobiling, as i did..he showed me a new type of riding...POWDER...he rode an old XLT, and i had a mountain max, i bought from pats...so much fun...we lost touch through the years...life happens...but i miss him (such good memories)...with him gone..it feels weird to me..i hope you guys understand if I'm not back next year...its difficult for me to understand that he's not here...its his page..it meant the world to him..sorry..so long winded...had to get this off my chest.
 

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stinkstar

Member
I just came on here to thank you attackman. Thank you for your trail reports over the past years. This is the first place I would come to see if it was worth the weekend trip up to the cabin. I respect whatever you decide but know Ill sure miss them if you decide to move on! Enjoy the off season. Thank you!
 

hermie

Well-known member
Personally I hope you come back. I think everyone on this site misses John dearly but I also believe most of us on here have kept it going in his memory and because deep down I believe that's what he would of wanted. I think it makes him smile looking down on all of us still keeping one of his dreams alive. Hopefully you will keep reporting I know the wife and I will come down chainsaw in hand ready to pitch in but need someone like you to let us know when you need the help.
 

REVVERUP

New member
Thank you Attakman and all of the clubs/volunteers up there. That was my first ride of the year! My 3.5 year old even went for a short ~10 mile ride. I didn't want to push her to make it to the local restaurants from where I unloaded, so we packed a sandwich and ate on the sled. She almost couldn't eat because she was smiling so hard! Thank you very much for all of the cleanup that everyone did. You could tell all of the fresh cut trees that were dragged off the trail.

I agree, the price of sleds = snobs, but there are still good people out there!
 

euphoric1

Well-known member
Thank you Attakman and all of the clubs/volunteers up there. That was my first ride of the year! My 3.5 year old even went for a short ~10 mile ride. I didn't want to push her to make it to the local restaurants from where I unloaded, so we packed a sandwich and ate on the sled. She almost couldn't eat because she was smiling so hard! Thank you very much for all of the cleanup that everyone did. You could tell all of the fresh cut trees that were dragged off the trail.

I agree, the price of sleds = snobs, but there are still good people out there!
doesn't stop at price of sleds, throw in cost of transport i.e. truck or tow vehicle, trailer, ,means and ability to travel to the snow. Industry as a whole is facing a slew of challenges, and not quite sure how we reverse that, add on lately the lack of winter/winters really putting a pinch on the sport/industry.
 

old abe

Well-known member
doesn't stop at price of sleds, throw in cost of transport i.e. truck or tow vehicle, trailer, ,means and ability to travel to the snow. Industry as a whole is facing a slew of challenges, and not quite sure how we reverse that, add on lately the lack of winter/winters really putting a pinch on the sport/industry.
Spot on perfect euphoric! It all adds up, but the poor winter, low, no snow riding areas is the absolute killer. We've been chasing 40 some years.
 

800etec

Member
Thanks for the reports and all the trail work you and others do Attack! Im an old guy too,use to ride alot,riding partners all got out of the sport so i dont ride much but i do like reading reports! I also miss John,never met him either but i think he would want you to keep up the good work.
 

old abe

Well-known member
attakman, I for one absolutely hope you will stay pat, and keep doing exactly what you have always done. I get your frustration. Your expertise, and a few others, honest, real trail, and the real weather conditions are valued greatly, and are the reports that are greatly appreciated by many of us. Especially the past few crappy years by those of us who have to travel great distances to get up to where the snow is. Your reports are always real, honest, down to earth, and that is why I would really miss them. Take a break, and regroup, we don't want to lose you! Thank you attakman!
 

racerx

Active member
Personally I hope you come back. I think everyone on this site misses John dearly but I also believe most of us on here have kept it going in his memory and because deep down I believe that's what he would of wanted. I think it makes him smile looking down on all of us still keeping one of his dreams alive. Hopefully you will keep reporting I know the wife and I will come down chainsaw in hand ready to pitch in but need someone like you to let us know when you need the help.
I agree with Hermie 100% on what he said as well as the others and can also understand your position as sometimes we all need to step back and refocus, but hopefully you can still be here in some form and we would also be willing to grab a saw and help if possible.
I to remember the XLT as that was my first sled and was when I found this site (and have been lately wishing I still had it as I saw one this past Friday) and even tho I never met John it was a neat connection to another XLT'r.
If anything, Thank You for all you have done!
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jedoyle

Active member
attakman - Like Jimmy V once said, "Don't give up, don't ever give up"! Even though I don't ride in your area, but would like to some day, I do like reading your reports.
 

mezz

Well-known member
JD would not want you to disappear from the site. Yes, it is weird without him, but, he instilled something in a lot of us that keeps us coming back. I remember when he was the meteorologist for WOLV, I was pissed when they replaced him with an outfit from away from here. So much so, I quit advertising with them. He was a special soul & will always be. Keep his legacy alive.
 
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