Opinions on SOPA

After reading what those 2 bills are about do?

  • NOT support SOPA!

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • NOT support PIPA!

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • NOT support either SOPA nor PIPA!

    Votes: 61 100.0%

  • Support SOPA :-(

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Support PIPA :-(

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    61
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toadster920

Member
For those of you that don't know what SOPA is. It is a bill that, if passed will allow the music and movie industry to effectively kill the internet in America and make it, for the most part, totally useless. You can read more about the blackout planned by many English websites here:

http://www.webpronews.com/sopa-blackout-set-for-january-18th-heres-all-the-info-2012-01

Those are sites that do plan on blacking out their English webpages in protest. Google and facebook have also made mention that they may also go dark for the day and only display a message stating why the site is blacked out not down or experiencing issues.

You can read more about what SOPA plans to accomplish here:

http://gizmodo.com/5877000/what-is-sopa

Also lets not forget about SOPA's ugly stepchild PIPA which you can learn more about here:

http://www.sdcitybeat.com/sandiego/article-10012-pipa-is-the-new-sopa.html
 
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ezra

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and that is what your phone is for to call the worthless P O S who will not listen to what you have to say. but you will at least get the satisfaction of letting there secretary know how you feel about the crap pile they are getting kickbacks to vote on
 
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indy_500

Well-known member
Not real up to date on this, but from the music and movie industry standpoint, what are they trying to accomplish?
 
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mride460

New member
indy_500 said:
Not real up to date on this, but from the music and movie industry standpoint, what are they trying to accomplish?
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In a nutshell. They are trying to stop us from watching, listening, and downloading copyrighted material for free.
They have a legitimate complaint (Hollywood &Music) but this is a way wrong way to fix it.
It's another great example of B.O.'s big government trying to fix something they have no business being involved in. IMO
 
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toadster920

Member
mride460, you hit the nail right on the head!! What they are trying to do is to change DNS to SECDNS where the gov't watchdogs can use DNS to stop piracy which in turn will cause people to use unsafe DNS servers which in turn will allow hackers and theifs to steal all of your information and no anti-virus in the world will be able to catch it because the virus isn't on your PC, it's on the internet itself(i.e. DNS server). This bill in it's present form will not be able to work at all.

I thought the poll might turn out this way but wasn't 100% sure. I wish google and facebook would have joined the blackout because then the gov't would have to listen. LOL
 
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arctiva

Member
I have mixed feelings on it. If the intentions are to keep people from downloading illegal movie and songs without paying for them im all for that. But then you read statements like this from craigslist "Don't believe it? Monster Cable has labeled craigslist a "rogue site," earmarked for blacklisting and full-takedown under PIPA -- resale of stereo cables by CL users reduces Monster 's new cable sales. (reddit)." And i think thats going to far with it.

When i buy something does that product not now belong to me to do with as i wish? If i wanna resell the item is that not my right too? Where does the companys or manufactor's right to the product end? Before we not it we wont even be able to resell our used cars and trucks because that hurts the new cars sales.. I think the real truth in these bills is in the Monster Cables own statement versus the were tring to stop piracy.

I mean heck walmart supports it so it must benifit corporations and not the general public LOL
 
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fatdaddy

Member
I don't know all the facts, but what I do know is if you don't like the way someone sells your product, don't sell to them. if Monster has issues with a seller then they are responsible for that no one else. Trust me they want the money and need those giant resellers. I also agree theft is theft and people downloading free songs or movies is wrong. The government is the Last group of people I want doing anything as far as control of the web.
 
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88skier

New member
mride460 said:
In a nutshell. They are trying to stop us from watching, listening, and downloading copyrighted material for free.
They have a legitimate complaint (Hollywood &Music) but this is a way wrong way to fix it.
It's another great example of B.O.'s big government trying to fix something they have no business being involved in. IMO
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I agree with you for the most part except these bills have been met with bipartisan opposition and support. Obama is actually opposed to this measure.
 
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ezra

Well-known member
WoW big shocker my home state big Government libs Franken and Klobuchar are on board for more Gov regulation. who would have ever thought? It is so embarrassing to live amongst people who vote for these people.
Oh guess it could be worse I could live in a state trying to recall a Gov who got the states budget in line hired more teachers dumped the dead the weight. would not want those things when you can model yourself after IL.
see I can always find a bright side LOL.
WAKE UP PEOPLE
 
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Firecatguy

New member
ezra said:
WoW big shocker my home state big Government libs Franken and Klobuchar are on board for more Gov regulation. who would have ever thought? It is so embarrassing to live amongst people who vote for these people.
Oh guess it could be worse I could live in a state trying to recall a Gov who got the states budget in line hired more teachers dumped the dead the weight. would not want those things when you can model yourself after IL.
see I can always find a bright side LOL.
WAKE UP PEOPLE
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I still have not found one person that voted for Franken!!!!!!
 
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durphee

Well-known member
Ezra, hey in Illinois we have a tradition of governors going to jail, im sure are more on the way! Not sure about Minnesota but Illinois politics is a HUGE joke!
 
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ezra

Well-known member
durphee said:
Ezra, hey in Illinois we have a tradition of governors going to jail, im sure are more on the way! Not sure about Minnesota but Illinois politics is a HUGE joke!
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we are doing all we can to emulate in every way we can. LIVEN THE DREAM to bad it is a horrific nightmare
 
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dcsnomo

Moderator
OK guys, straighten up! The thread is a meaningful discussion about a current issue of SOPA/PIPA, which is an important issue to a country which was founded, in part, on freedom of speech. If you wish to discuss SOPA/PIPA please do so, this is not about Walker, Franken, labor, socialism, Obama, Gingrich, Romney, or the effect of the leap second on snowfall in the UP.
 
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toadster920

Member
I stand corrected folks. Google did have a petition on the 18th that was digitally signed by over 4.5 million people and Wikipedia's English landing page only had a text box to type in your zip code and they would find the contact info for your local Reps. From what I heard the Wiki page allowed people to crash email servers and basically melt the phone systems of the representatives!!!! WAY TO GO AMERICA!!! Now I'm hearing rumors that both bills are going to be stuffed into a "Child Pornography" bill that no Senator or Congressman will NOT sign. Understandably so to NOT sign a child porn bill but to sneak in SOPA and PIPA is just wrong. Yet, it is the was Washington has been doing things forever!!! There goes freedom of speech on a fundamental scale!!
 
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ezra

Well-known member
dcsnomo said:
OK guys, straighten up! The thread is a meaningful discussion about a current issue of SOPA/PIPA, which is an important issue to a country which was founded, in part, on freedom of speech. If you wish to discuss SOPA/PIPA please do so, this is not about Walker, Franken, labor, socialism, Obama, Gingrich, Romney, or the effect of the leap second on snowfall in the UP.
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well it is a discussion involving the people who support it so yes it involves Franken who happens to be a big supporter of big GOV regulation SOPA.or should I say did until he found out people were waking up to this hugely unpopular POS then he shut his pie hole and slithered back under his rock knowing he will have a chance to vote on it some other day with a new name tucked in to a diff bill
 
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Chicago Boy

New member
Only 1 thing

Is this realy what the government should be doing with all the people out of work
C'mon man this is just more crap to distract people from the real story of the past 3 years no matter what happens
Next year in November we have much bigger problems
 
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