Polaris Plant from Osceola WI heading to Mexico

Firecatguy

New member
Ski-doo is a Canadian company selling Canadian made products.
Yamaha is a Japanese company selling Japanese made products
Arctic Cat is an American company selling American made products
Polaris is an American company that used to sell American made products, in a cost driven move it will now be an American company selling Mexican made products.

Dumb move considering who the customers are. If your customers want to "Buy American" you just alienated them and drove them to the only remaining American made choice.

Dumb move, marketing blunder.

agreed......

the people that are affected by this suks....

their is 2421 people living in Osceola Wis their is 1002 households in that area....800 jobs gone makes that 200 households that can feed there children
 

jr37

Well-known member
I really feel for the people that are losing their jobs. That really sucks.

I can't believe that this won't effect Polaris sales. This should be a move that is good for the sales of the other 3 manufacturers, especially Cat. I think that some people that are not really brand loyal with move on. After some time the wounds will heal and their sales will go back up, but in no way can this be a move that will increase sales now. I know that they say they will save money on labor costs, but what are they going to lose on warranty work, lost sales, transportation, overhead, etc. I don't see this saving tons of money, but then again I'm not an over-paid CEO trying to look good.
 

thunderstruck88

New member
as the Beetles sang soon we may be on the way to a Revoution with getting back our country as we knew it back in the 50'tys and sixty's when our government helped not hurt our businesses and it was the government for the people and by the people not the greedy low down crooks they have become they should all be ashamed of them selves grrr this makes me :mad: going to go chill out have a nice day :)
 

snoughnut

New member
What a massive failure Polaris has become, I currently own 3 Polaris snowmobiles and they will be for sale this fall after hearing this news. I won't support this kind of behavior, I'll boycott it all until these companies decide they want to employ Americans, it's time to wake up people. I won't feel bad this winter, after 20 consecutive yrs. on a sled, knowing it's for a good cause it's not a problem at all. I won't support a company who participates in this way, especially the manufacturing of big ticket items. It will feel good knowing I won't be supporting these traitors this winter. One of the reasons I've always owned Poo was the fact they were more American made than the others and the fact they had a plant in my home state of Wisconsin, I guess change is on the horizon, so be it, no more Poo for this guy and no more sledding period. Go straight to **** Poo!
 

xcr440

Well-known member
snoughnut

What kind of car do you drive? What kind of TV do you have? What kind of computer do you have?

With that kind of logic, you aren't going to be doing much of anything.

Yeah, this move sucks, but by no means are they the first to do this, not even CLOSE.
 
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dcsnomo

Moderator
snoughnut

What kind of car do you drive? What kind of TV do you have? What kind of computer do you have?

With that kind of logic, you aren't going to be doing much of anything.

Yeah, this move sucks, but by no means are they the first to do this, not even CLOSE.

Ok but kinda not the point. I know my tv and computer are foreign made, I expect it. These are also products with a very wide penetration of US consumers and ticking off some segment of people when you have a 95% penetration level is no big deal, particularly if there are few American made alternatives, i.e. computers, TVs.

The recreational powersports industry is different. It has a low and narrow penetration among US consumers, and while I am making a guess here, they seem to me to be pretty conservative. Also making a guess, but would be willing to bet that "Made in America" is an attribute that increases as consumers are more conservative. So, point is, people who buy recreational powersports are probably going to weight "Made in America" as a stronger attribute in considering a recreational powersports purchase than when they decide to buy computers, TVs, and cars.

I think snoughnut's reaction is to be expected with these consumers. Polaris is the #1 share of ATV/UTV market, with Yamaha at #2. Both good products, but Polaris is "Made in America". That's a big plus with these conservative consumers, it is a huge advantage over Yamaha as these products have high emotional involvement. Made in America is an emotional issue, and Polaris has just decided to toss it.

I bet the ad agency is in Thief River Falls today working on Arctic Cat's 2011 campaign...
"Arctic Cat-made in America, by Americans, for Americans...always!

Hey, maybe I should bid on the project!!!
 
G

G

Guest
dcsnomo - are you sure Pol is #1 in market share for ATVs? Maybe in the US but worldwide I thought Honda was king. Where are you getting your info?
 

xcr440

Well-known member
dcsnomo,

MY point was, look around. If you really truely believe that "American" company is "Made in the USA", guess again. So, if you think you are going to do what ever it is that you do with "American" made products, good luck finding something to do.

To your point: Computers? Ya ok. TV's? Ya ok.

But just take a look at FORD. Been that way for YEARS! The #1 Police Cruisers, the Crown Victoria, have been made in Mexico and Canada for YEARS. (And don't start with Canada is the 51st state crap)

It is practically impossible to buy an all "American" made product these days.

Do I like it? Not at all. But that's not the point......
 

dcsnomo

Moderator
I was talking USA, sorry for the confusion. And, I accept your upcoming comment that maybe the worldwide market, which wouldn't care if it was made in the USA or Mexico, may be the real driver of this business.
 

oldguy

Member
FYI, Honda sells the most ATV's. Polaris has the most sales of side by sides. Polaris currently uses foreign made engines in some of their smaller ATV's
 

polarisrider1

New member
What a massive failure Polaris has become, I currently own 3 Polaris snowmobiles and they will be for sale this fall after hearing this news. I won't support this kind of behavior, I'll boycott it all until these companies decide they want to employ Americans, it's time to wake up people. I won't feel bad this winter, after 20 consecutive yrs. on a sled, knowing it's for a good cause it's not a problem at all. I won't support a company who participates in this way, especially the manufacturing of big ticket items. It will feel good knowing I won't be supporting these traitors this winter. One of the reasons I've always owned Poo was the fact they were more American made than the others and the fact they had a plant in my home state of Wisconsin, I guess change is on the horizon, so be it, no more Poo for this guy and no more sledding period. Go straight to **** Poo!

Such tough talk. In a week or less you will be complaining about something else. My chevy trucks are made in Canada, My appliances are made in Mexico, Miller beer owned by Molson or is it Labbatts? Pretty much nothing is "made" here anymore. We are in a service driven industry right now. India is trying to that away. It is sad this is happening, but the company has to servive. Companies do not exist to provide jobs, they provide jobs to create a product in order to gain wealth for the owners. That's the way it is.
 

polarisrider1

New member
snoughnut

What kind of car do you drive? What kind of TV do you have? What kind of computer do you have?

With that kind of logic, you aren't going to be doing much of anything.

Yeah, this move sucks, but by no means are they the first to do this, not even CLOSE.

Thank you.
 

mjjc54

Member
miller beer is owned by the south african brewery. the company is now sab miller. molson and coors have merged also. miller and coors do have a marketing deal together. the largest owned american brewing company is now PABST. ironically they contract out their brewing to the miller brewery. but they are my beer of choice since budweiser sold out to the belgians. as far as chevy i cannot forgive GM for declaring bankruptcy after taking all that money. i am now a ford man. i own 2 polaris snowmobiles and a 4 wheeler and i am at a loss what i will purchase the next time. maybe i will cool off by then. my 2 cents
 

polarisrider1

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For those bashing the Gov. of Wis., well we do that to here in MI. But I would like to point out that Gov. Doyle worked hard to receive HAP Grants (Harbor Assistance Program) to the tune of another $12,559,513 for 3 projects in the Green Bay and Manitowoc. This is in addition to the $32.8 million HAP grants for the Harbors and ports in Wis. that he got from the feds. The funding provides 600 jobs and is creating 130 new jobs in the state along with the thousands of support jobs that spin off. Gov. Doyle is also in charge of the "Great Lakes Restoration Initiative" with $475-million in the coffers. I think the guy is trying, but one man can not fix all that ails.
 

polarisrider1

New member
Be sure to call up WI Governor Doyle and thank him for the tax increase he implemented and probably another big reason for this move. I hear H-D is thinking of moving shop for that very reason as well.

My 99 springer has tons of foreign parts on it, why else would it require a 10 and 11mm wrench in the tool kit. I will still buy HD if they move.
 

whitedust

Well-known member
Poo will lose some Snomo sales with the move to Mexico. Poo had red, white & blue faithful buying their products proud to buy made in USA. Wine is a Danaher manager so knew he would move to cheapest mfg country they ALWAYS do does not matter what they say day to day. Tiller stepped down & brought Wine in to do the DIRTY work. I posted look out when they hired Wine due to his background so I feel bad for those who lost jobs but not surprised. I'm sure Mexico move buzz was at play in plant then BANG it happened. Poo making good profits so they may cut some decent packages to workers. That is the RIGHT thing to do for displaced workers sure as heck not their fault & ok to be mad at Poo for the move. Poo doing this for even greater profits & Wine wants to make a name for himself. Tiller keeps the monkey off his back & will be pointing at Wine. These guys make huge bucks & just don't care at all about people that do the work. Everyone can be replaced & will be & they call it Top Grading.lol :eek:
 

rmk4ever

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Does anyone know how many POO products are reg. in the great state of WI ? I'll bet those #'s will fall greatly within the following 2 yrs. Way to take care of the people that put them in the spot they are in today!
 
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