Racine county sheriff is allowing businesses to open

przes1

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X2 we need to get on with life and take our chances sooner or later as a vaccine is many months away maybe January 2021 soonest. Sweden is not restricting The public for Covid 19 their thinking is establish the antibodies and get on with life. Is there a right or wrong approach?.....we will soon find out. I too grew up in a time when there was a polio vaccine and TB vaccination you took your chances with every other disease and I got all or most of them sooner or later and so did everyone else. I hope we do well as a country but the economy MUST move on really no other way at the end of the day.

I agree.
 

snomoman

Active member
Has anybody found out with what sheriff Rosco P Coltrane’s decision was on this subject?
 
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srt20

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Shawano county has followed his lead.


Guesses on which county is next?

BTW Dodge county was the next.

I expect a bunch more Sheriffs on Monday will have similar media releases. Along with the lawsuits that are being filed.
 

euphoric1

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A quick search shows 732 covid19 cases in Racine County, 4th highest in the state. Plus 6 deaths. All in about 5 weeks time. Now the sheriff is the covid19 expert and knows better. Man, will he get a little heat if his new found expertise fails.

That 732 number... is that confirmed cases since they started testing? are they requiring those that tested positive that aren't hospitalized to return later for retest? I ask this because if you have it you are supposed to quarantine for 2 weeks, we have been testing for far longer than 2 weeks now so if "732" cases and "19" fatalities what is happening with the other 713 are they recovering? where are they? It is my understanding that the hospitals here are not overflowing or even close to be. I have said it before the only real number we have is fatalities. the amount of people that probably have it is likely in the thousands as some are a-symptomatic. The fear mongering needs to end, as someone else stated the last weeks were supposed to have epic numbers of fatalities, of such we weren't prepared for, the scare tactics are way short of predictions, we are passed recession era economics and approaching depression. I ask the criers... what do we do then? how do we take care of everyone? I stand with the sheriffs decision however he basically handed the enforcement to the health department and I am not sure how they will handle this, they cant arrest but sure they have power to still shutter businesses. Shuttering the economy was the worst possible response to this fear mongering epidemic, a virus is going to spread no matter what you do and it will most definitely resurface now that it has jumped, it will never go away and desocializing everyone I think only slows its progression, wont stop it. 600,000 confirmed cases in the U.S somewhere around 30,000 deaths and almost 25,000,000 people without jobs and a dwindeling shuttered economy, easy to see the equation is heavily weighted in the WRONG diection. Lets reopen the economy, its the right and needed thing to do.
 

euphoric1

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You also have to consider that if we keep things shuttered until May 26th...essentially Memorial Day week... Bars and restaurants are the hardest hit and cover the majority of the shuttered business profile, This is the first big weekend of the season for them, not to mention camp grounds, parks, garden centers. We are killing the economy people, and for some there will be no recovery if this continues, these too are peoples lives and again of no fault to their own.
 

xcr440

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600,000 confirmed cases in the U.S somewhere around 30,000 deaths and almost 25,000,000 people without jobs and a dwindeling shuttered economy, easy to see the equation is heavily weighted in the WRONG diection. Lets reopen the economy, its the right and needed thing to do.

And by opening the economy, the volume of people going to these currently closed businesses won’t be anywhere near what it was before, too many people are full of fear. So it won’t suddenly cram restaurants and local retail with people.

Continuing social distancing in any one of these local retail businesses shouldn’t be any more difficult than how so many have been practicing by going to grocery and big box stores the last 3-4 weeks.
 

blkhwkbob

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So if things weren't shut down and a million people died, people would be looking for someone to bitch at. Now that not enough people are dying, everyone is bitching about that. I think it was a good idea to proceed with caution until we at least figured out what was going on. You guys are tempting me to say "go ahead, open everything up and when a million die, don't come crying to me," but I wouldn't do that.
 

candyman

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So if things weren't shut down and a million people died, people would be looking for someone to bitch at. Now that not enough people are dying, everyone is bitching about that. I think it was a good idea to proceed with caution until we at least figured out what was going on. You guys are tempting me to say "go ahead, open everything up and when a million die, don't come crying to me," but I wouldn't do that.

If the shut down had been fair or had made any sense, I’d say yes it was good idea. But when you shut down a restaurant in Bayfield that will serve 40 to 50 people on Sunday night, but not a Home Depot or Menards that sees hundreds maybe a thousand guests enter there doors on a single day. The shut down makes no sense!!!

Also, not sure we want the government telling us what is essential in our lives. Slippery slope there.
 
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DamageInc

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The next move: Da guv'nor sends the State Patrol to arrest the Sheriff and lock 'im up. :devilish:

The Sheriff does not answer to the governor. You want to literally start a small war? Try sending troopers to arrest a Sheriff for upholding his oath. You will see an army of civilians there to defend the Sheriff, not to mention his deputies. And Racine County has a pretty solid SWAT team.
 

DamageInc

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Never will know...ever. But that doesn't mean you shut down the country indefinitely until there are no more cases or a vaccine is available. That is impossible. Any clear thinking person can figure that out. I'm not giving you a shot blkhwkbob, just making a point.

Yep, people need to accept the fact that everyone will have to face this virus at some point, and there might not be a vaccine. This virus (SARS-CoV-2) is very similar to the first SARS from 2003 (SARS-CoV-1). They never succeeded with an effective virus for that one. Most people will survive just fine. The majority of people exposed to it will never even develop symptoms. Shutting down the country for a virus with a <1% mortality rate is absolutely insane. If it goes on much longer, it will kill more people than the virus.
 

whitedust

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So has any business reopened?

We’re going to have to give it some time can’t just open the doors without changes , sterilization, masks , some SD for the public to have confidence. I’m sure some will....a bar/ restaurant owner in Milwaukee announced he’s opening says its his right to do so and the public’s right to have a meal at his restaurant or stay home. Again sooner or later we all have to face this pandemic and resume our lives that’s the reality of the new and old normal. What’s a pioneer? The guy with an arrow stuck in his chest! Some pioneering is a must imo!
 

snobuilder

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yes for gawd sakes please open up some other businesses....we are running out of lumber AND patients with crazy in a effin hurry customers...lol
 

xcr440

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So if things weren't shut down and a million people died, people would be looking for someone to bitch at. Now that not enough people are dying, everyone is bitching about that. I think it was a good idea to proceed with caution until we at least figured out what was going on. You guys are tempting me to say "go ahead, open everything up and when a million die, don't come crying to me," but I wouldn't do that.

Nobody is asking you to say anything. Let's just start looking forward, and the consequences of a more prolonged shut down. We are where we are now, its happened, they shuttered the country. BUT - Just like everyone else, I'm sure you have been to a grocery story, or perhaps a hardware store for SOMETHING in the last 4-5 weeks. What are we doing? "Social distancing", some people have to wear a mask to feel safe, heck, I've seen people in full body wrapped suits. Why can't we start doing that same thing NOW in these other small businesses? As I said before, there won't be anywhere near the number of people in these smaller businesses, that I have seen at Menards, Fleet Farm, Target, Sam's Club etc etc on the weekends. I mean, the parking lots of these places have been PACKED for at least the last two weekends. (And no, I wouldn't go in them on any other weekend if they looked that full)

We may have an opportunity to get these businesses at least open, and get a few people through them to help keep them afloat. It certainly won't happen over night, in fact, I believe it will take MONTHS before many see anywhere near the level of business they had. But the sooner we get started, the sooner we can get the ball rolling, and hopefully save some peoples lives here, Financially, at the same time staying healthy.
 

slimcake

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Need barber.......will travel.:highly_amused:

Ya you should see the cut I got while sitting in my office... No mirrors. Not my normal hair gal. Was happy to have it cut as it grows so fast!

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Nobody is asking you to say anything. Let's just start looking forward, and the consequences of a more prolonged shut down. We are where we are now, its happened, they shuttered the country. BUT - Just like everyone else, I'm sure you have been to a grocery story, or perhaps a hardware store for SOMETHING in the last 4-5 weeks. What are we doing? "Social distancing", some people have to wear a mask to feel safe, heck, I've seen people in full body wrapped suits. Why can't we start doing that same thing NOW in these other small businesses? As I said before, there won't be anywhere near the number of people in these smaller businesses, that I have seen at Menards, Fleet Farm, Target, Sam's Club etc etc on the weekends. I mean, the parking lots of these places have been PACKED for at least the last two weekends. (And no, I wouldn't go in them on any other weekend if they looked that full)

We may have an opportunity to get these businesses at least open, and get a few people through them to help keep them afloat. It certainly won't happen over night, in fact, I believe it will take MONTHS before many see anywhere near the level of business they had. But the sooner we get started, the sooner we can get the ball rolling, and hopefully save some peoples lives here, Financially, at the same time staying healthy.


I agree 100%. I got take out lunch at our small bar and grill up town. Handed it to me through the front window. Went home and ate it. As I was driving back to work I noticed the Subway store had like 6 cars in the parking lot. You could see people standing inside the store. How in da HE double hockey sticks does that work. Its almost like mother govt is trying to ruin the little guys. Subway is open as usual and the small bar/grills are closed. Stupid.
 
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