real world chubby

[warner]

ok first off i don't work for a sled manufacturer or any dealers for that matter,
Last night i finally did it, i have a large digital scale that i drove my brand new totally stock 2013 yamaha nytro xtx 1.75 with one gallon o fuel in the tank up onto....
and the digital readout said..........................
595.00 pounds
there you have it no b.s.
any one else ever weigh their sled ?
the scale is accurate it's been calibrated by a professional ( not me )

 

[timo]

and what does the title real world chubby have anything to do what your sled weighs?

 

[samc]

I had higher hopes for this thread from the title!

 

[whitedust]

The mags weigh sleds & never what the OEMS spec them at. You want the lightest trail sled doo all the way. Does not really matter to me as long as the sled handles the way I want it to. Sled weight for trail sleds really not that big of a deal.

 

[Banks93]

Couldn't disagree with this statement more. Weight does matter. Ride your attack through 20 miles of 2' moguls and then ride a 800 etech ski doo with R-Motion. You will know why weight does matter.

On groomed trails with no bumps. You may be correct but not many people get to ride on weekdays with great groomed trails. Most of us get to ride when everyone else rides.

EPS helps with the weight issue but like I said earlier drive on bumped out trails all day and you will know why weight does matter on the trail just as much as off the trail.

 

[momoney2123]

I would have to say weight is def an influence on trail riding especially more agressive riders, maybe if ur just kicking back going for a stroll thru the park its not really noticable. I would like to hear one disadvantage of having a lighter sled. The only thing i can think of is durability issues, but trail sleds arent made to jump over the house. and have never heard of anything bending on the doo's. Lighter the sled the Easier to ride, handle, move around, power to weight for those of us who like to drag race a little, moguls, and it has to be an advantage in the deep powder....etc, never done powder but would think it would help.... riding doo's 1200 4stroke and riding and etec, there is huge trail riding differences, cornering and bumps is unbelievably different and the big difference between the 2 is weight.

 

[whitedust]

Couldn't disagree with this statement more. Weight does matter. Ride your attack through 20 miles of 2' moguls and then ride a 800 etech ski doo with R-Motion. You will know why weight does matter.

On groomed trails with no bumps. You may be correct but not many people get to ride on weekdays with great groomed trails. Most of us get to ride when everyone else rides.

EPS helps with the weight issue but like I said earlier drive on bumped out trails all day and you will know why weight does matter on the trail just as much as off the trail.

Nothing to disagree about ....Like I said if you want light weight champ go doo my Attak does great on bumps, studders smooth as butter but mono good at that not really a weight issue. I ride plenty of ungroomed Frs again Attak does well. Too me track length offsets a lot of trail comfort issues & longer tracks always weigh more than shorties & the best shock package always helps too & probably weighs more than mid grade shocks. To me weight is not all that important for a good comfortable trail sled if the sled works well & excells at its purpose I could care less what it weighs.

 

[ezra]

595 not to bad for a 3/4 ton 4stroke.
the cat turbos in full drag race trim at weigh in are far north of 600lb

 

[warner]

Just giving you guys an honest sled weight, everyone is always talking about the Yamaha weight....I'll let you decide if 595.00 pounds is to heavy for a Yamaha, but for me I'm gonna ride the rubber off that thing

 

[ezra]

ok ok have to do it

 

[GTL]

OK OK I too thought this thread was headed somewhere else!!! I was hoping to see either someone's new sled or a picture of a local snow dumping!!! Sorry I lost my chubby now too.........................................

 

[warner]

Aah yes the tow truck picture, good one
So no one else has ever weighed there sled eh?
Just goin off what they tell ya?

 

[catalac]

They really had to call a tow truck?
Is that photo shopped?lol.

 

[blutooth]

Team Kesslers was sick of all the talk between brands and weight so we just bought a scale to weigh our sleds. Hanging scale seems reasonably accurate anyway so we will see what we come up with. Only weighed one sled so far.

2009 X Summit 146" with all kinds of changes. 1/2 tank gas and 1/2 tank of oil. - Factory dry weight of this sled was listed at 425 lbs, and I did more lightening mods than those that make it heavier (S36, slydog skis, BOSS seat, can, remove foam, remove snow flap and light, etc all make it lighter - rear rack, riser block, braces, running boards, 2.5" flexedge track, etc make it heavier)

Once I pick it up we will get a new ProRMK up there later this week! Also have a number of other Summits to weigh, M8, or if anyone is in Waukesha and wants to bring their sled by we will throw it up there to get a wide range of data! Next time we will do a better job with full fuel/oil etc.

And by the way, yes, the Yamaha is HEAVY (but honestly for a trail sled who cares).

 

[twistgrip]

Warner you will love the torque on this sled, yes there heavier off trail but capable. Just remember there's a trade off for everything---you won't have to bring extra pistons!

 

[whitedust]

Once I pick it up we will get a new ProRMK up there later this week! Also have a number of other Summits to weigh, M8, or if anyone is in Waukesha and wants to bring their sled by we will throw it up there to get a wide range of data! Next time we will do a better job with full fuel/oil etc.

And by the way, yes, the Yamaha is HEAVY (but honestly for a trail sled who cares).

Totally agree weight just not that important for a trail sled but super important for a powder sled.

 

[warner]

thanks for the input guys...keep it coming,anyone is welcome to use my scale as well !
i bought the nytro guessing it was going to be slightly heavier, but i wanted to try four stroke power and reliability...this sled will have to do both as far as trail ride and off trail. iv'e been an arctic cat guy my whole life and was even a factory certified cat master technician at one point but a blown diamond drive on a crossfire 8 last year in the U.P really pissed me off....so here i am Yamaha, try and keep me as a happy customer!
TWISTGRIP.......man am i ever waiting for my first ride

 

[vmax1994]

My brother drives a Nytro so I've had some saddle time. You will definitely like the power, especially low end. These engines are solid. His doesn't have a long track but with just some clutch work and changing of the drivers (I think the 13's already have the non-ratcheting drivers) he is able to keep up to my 800etec until about 70-80. I will say that it is a workout driving it aggressively though. The low end torque gives you an upper body workout. Enjoy.

 

[whitedust]

thanks for the input guys...keep it coming,anyone is welcome to use my scale as well !
i bought the nytro guessing it was going to be slightly heavier, but i wanted to try four stroke power and reliability...this sled will have to do both as far as trail ride and off trail. iv'e been an arctic cat guy my whole life and was even a factory certified cat master technician at one point but a blown diamond drive on a crossfire 8 last year in the U.P really pissed me off....so here i am Yamaha, try and keep me as a happy customer!
TWISTGRIP.......man am i ever waiting for my first ride

Yeppers 2s problems drove me to 4s too best thing I ever did for myself & I will deal with the weight. I like riding not walking.lol

 

[Attak man]

Weight is not an issue for a trail sled...suspension calibration matters most....I had an attak....the only time the weight bothered me (and it was more of an issue with it being a long track)...was super tight twisty trails....OFF trail...powder riding....different story.....actually a heavier sled with correct suspension calibrations will track straighter through rough terraign than a lighter sled....it will hold it's line....YES...we ALL know ski-doos are light...and I agree their new rear skid is amazing.....to each their own...it's really about preference.

I just purchased an F1000 LXR....and I bought it because that chassis is noted for it's ride and handling...before the new ski-doo skid came out...the cat F-series were considered the best riding and handling sleds on the market...by nearly every magazine from 2008 -2011...and the last time I checked...they are not light sleds.