Ski doo 800 e tec piston recal
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legend02
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My 2011 was recalled for the piston pin issue, as part of the recall the crank was checked and found to be out of specs, so they replaced that also along with the top end. So I basically got a new motor.
Sled has 4,250 miles on it when I took it in and was running great as far as I was concerned last spring.
Sled has 4,250 miles on it when I took it in and was running great as far as I was concerned last spring.
Huh. where are all the bashers when it's SkiDoo that has this issue. The Poo 800's from 2009/2010 similar deal. Top end recall, but everyone got all over that.
Just find it funny that it doesn't go both ways.
Anyway, not crabbing at ya. Just an observation. Hope the fix works and you have good riding. Sold my 2009 Poo 800 for that very reason. Two blow ups, enough was enough. Renting this year.
Just find it funny that it doesn't go both ways.
Anyway, not crabbing at ya. Just an observation. Hope the fix works and you have good riding. Sold my 2009 Poo 800 for that very reason. Two blow ups, enough was enough. Renting this year.
because with skidoo it is just more old hat as far back as the old formula 3 the crank bearings have been junk and lets face it if there was not talk of ring issues at brp would u know it is winter? the doo guys know it and are not out in there yellow skirts waving the black and yellow pom poms telling every one there is no issue with the doo 800 because it never happened to them..
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Deleted member 10829
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I've made that observation many times on this site and I hardly even get a response. I compare it to the liberal media turning a blind eye to everything our current President does yet they bashed his predecessor every chance they got over the smallest things. Very similar IMO.
Okay, I'll bite. There is plenty of Doo bashing from a certain few members. It's just a little more subtle, that's all. But I wouldn't say there's any more or any less of it than there is bashing of other brands, though. In fact, a couple of us called one guy out on it once and got jumped on by other members that the guy who did it was "just having fun". And I don't recall any threads dedicated to a problem (like the "Poo's problems" thread). As to why or why not, I can't say. I don't think anybody in their right mind would say that certain Doos haven't had their issues.
So apparently, at least in the eyes of some, bashing is permissible as long as you're "just having fun" and add a smiley face after your bash. But that being said....it's winter, there's snow on the ground, life is short, so in the grand scheme of things it's not really something of great importance.
So apparently, at least in the eyes of some, bashing is permissible as long as you're "just having fun" and add a smiley face after your bash. But that being said....it's winter, there's snow on the ground, life is short, so in the grand scheme of things it's not really something of great importance.
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All you'll have to doo is watch how many views and posts there are on this thread vs. the thread "Poo Problems". It won't even be close.
dfattack
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I think it's a shame that any brand continues to have basic mechanical issues after so many years of development. I am brand loyal...no doubt. My brand doesn't have these types of issues at all and I'm talking basic mechanical issues...internal engine parts. I'm not an expert mechanic but it would seem to me in the year 2013 some of the basic mechanical issues shouldn't be happening on a 2 day old sled as we can read in another thread on this site. I would hope that all manufacturers can get their stuff together so we could compare technology to technology instead of comparing who's breaks down more often. I don't really want everyone riding the same machine as me...that would be boring. I think the Doo's look cool, not as nice as what I have, but would consider them if my brand went out of business. It's disappointing to find out one of the largest manufacturers if not the largest cannot get the motor right when other brands can. They obviously can get suspension right. Now just get an engine that can last.
momoney2123
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There is a big difference between poo's 800 problems and doo's 800 problems. These arent melting down at an extrodaniry rates. And doo offered an engine fix before you even knew there may be an issue. They fixed the problem before the customer got burned. That is the difference. Doo's 800 twin started in 01. Was great 01,02 and in 03 they went to different rings and pistons. That kind of splashed some egg on the face but was an easy fix by getting away from the crap rings. 04,05,06,07,08,09,10 800's were rock solid. Then Doo came out with the highest tech, direct injected 800 E-tec in 11 something that took guts. Something that was so far ahead of its competitors and still is. Less fuel, less oil, more power, and alot cleaner burning, has anyone noticed that there is virtually no smoke in comparison to other brands. They had a glitch that they think at the 5000 mark they were seeing failures. They fixed the issue and offered brand new pistons,rings, and crank for free to anyone who bought a 2011 or early 2012 800 E-tec whether its in warranty or not, or whether you bought it new or were the 8th owner. Like I've mentioned before we have had a pile of 800 E-tecs in our group and have zero issues and know ton of others with zero issues. Ski-doo never let us get to the failure point and covered there butts before it happend. Now that they have had some time under there belt with this motor the 13's and 14's are gold. And if you simply dropped off your 2011 or early 2012 800 E-tec at any dealer, they would fix it and those are gold too. Haha so much of a difference. I'm still riding my 800 E-tec with the orginal everything. Can update all the way thru next year whenever I please.
Shortly after I posted I decided I should temper this a bit, but alas I was warm in bed and figured it could wait till morning. I should not have said there is "plenty" of Doo bashing, because I don't think there is a lot. But it's there from time to time.
I think when one rides (especially if one is brand loyal) a particular brand, one is more more apt to notice if that particular brand is being bashed. Not saying it's bad to be brand loyal; I think it's just human nature to be more sensitive to your favorite something (team, sled, car, etc) taking heat.
Couldn't agree more, for trail riding. I made the switch last year (though I never needed or wanted an 800). The 1200 is the best-kept secret in sledding.
momoney2123
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I put some miles on a 1200 this weekend and I like them alot and they are def more reliable as they should be...2s vs 4s... But not everyone does the same type of riding. Like myself I not only like 2-strokes better but also like to do some drag racing. Unless you have a turbo on the 1200 it wont compete with 800's. the 1200 is 135hp.....800 etec 160 give or take. 800 much lighter. And they are by no means junk. Orginal sealed cranks have a short life span, that has been fixed. Other than that all good. But the 1200 handles really well and have been solid. Maybe once a couple years go by and peoople realize they are just as reliable if not more than yamaha 4 strokes they may take over the market. especialy when doo comes out with a factory turbo on that or the 900 ace.
I'm in the 2 stroke blues right now. I don't understand brand bashing. I can feel the anger towards any brand with part failure. I had a 600 go down which I thought was never going to happen. I am seriously looking into 4 strokes for trail riding. I had an 07 Apex and while it was a fun sled after riding my 12 r motion XP I don't think I could go back to an Apex.
misty_pines
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I don't really understand hard core brand bashing and the die hard brand loyalty mentality although do understand brand preference and good natured ribbing once in awhile 
I own a 2011 Doo 800 etec. My experience is that the sled never missed a beat, performed up to or exceeded my expectations and all that good stuff. I became aware of a service bulletin from Dootalk. Shortly after that, my dealer called me (in early 2012) and said that there is a service bulletin due to a possible problem with the piston ring locating pin and the crank would be checked also. I took it in and they replaced the top end and checked the crank (which was fine). This was done outside of warranty. I am disappointed that there was a problem in the first place but glad that Doo took proactive measures to take care of their customers like me before any engine problems developed. Many of my friends ride all other makes and we all have had a few probs here and have and there and also have had a ton of fun. It is hard to believe that there are still manufacturing or parts problems as frequently as there are with all brands, but also glad when a manufacturer steps up and proactively takes care of a problem prior to a rash of failures. That's my take anyway.
I own a 2011 Doo 800 etec. My experience is that the sled never missed a beat, performed up to or exceeded my expectations and all that good stuff. I became aware of a service bulletin from Dootalk. Shortly after that, my dealer called me (in early 2012) and said that there is a service bulletin due to a possible problem with the piston ring locating pin and the crank would be checked also. I took it in and they replaced the top end and checked the crank (which was fine). This was done outside of warranty. I am disappointed that there was a problem in the first place but glad that Doo took proactive measures to take care of their customers like me before any engine problems developed. Many of my friends ride all other makes and we all have had a few probs here and have and there and also have had a ton of fun. It is hard to believe that there are still manufacturing or parts problems as frequently as there are with all brands, but also glad when a manufacturer steps up and proactively takes care of a problem prior to a rash of failures. That's my take anyway.
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HMMMM, no mention of the crank probs in that long string of "rock solid" years?????
hehehe.
hehehe.
They almost all have their problems, somewhere along the line. New technology and pushing boundaries results in mistakes and issues. It's frustrating for all, but look where the chassis and motors have come to because of sacrifices.... by riders, owners, and manufacturers alike.
On my part it was just an observance that there seems to be a lot of Polaris complainers here, and little to no other brand complainers. Each issue has it's own reaction and results. I've had buddies have horrible experiences with bad sleds and SkiDoo. I've had buddies (and myself actually) have really good experiences with Polaris. And vice versa. So it goes on. And will until we all stop sledding..... which is hopefully never.
Wish for snow, ride hard, stay young.
On my part it was just an observance that there seems to be a lot of Polaris complainers here, and little to no other brand complainers. Each issue has it's own reaction and results. I've had buddies have horrible experiences with bad sleds and SkiDoo. I've had buddies (and myself actually) have really good experiences with Polaris. And vice versa. So it goes on. And will until we all stop sledding..... which is hopefully never.
Wish for snow, ride hard, stay young.
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This is nothing new to me either been there done that doo crank & ring failure with 800. Too me the doo 800 runs great until crank freezes & you are done I would be very nervous at the 5000 mile mark from past experience or just get rid of it & update. It seems in comparo the poo dose not run well way before 5000 miles so more attention to the problem sooner.
indy_500
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Do you need some yellow kool aid to go with those yellow pom poms?
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lenny
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lets step back a little and see if we are talking about bashing or criticism. I would think a example of bashing would be something like " that thing sucks, it's a pile of crap", "your stupid for buying that."
I see very little bashing and I see very little posts deleted. I see lots of criticism and little deleted posts probably because JD does not see it as bashing. I know he has a rule against bashing and does not tolerate it.
We need to be careful to label criticism as bashing as there is a huge difference.
Poo has earned strong criticism on 800 engine failures. Doo has earned strong criticism on ring issues back in 03 starting with the 600HO. Doo does do a good job of owning up dealing with it where poo guys are fixing their sleds at their cost and adding fix kits and yet we see little bashing, sometimes posts deleted, rightfully so.
No offense guys but is some brand loyalty causing any criticism of your brand to be viewed as bashing, because it's threatens how you feel about your brand?
It just seems some of you are claiming bashing because you don't like what you hear. Think about it, I've been here for many years and the poo 800 is basically the only strong criticism many of us have had with poo,,,and don't you think they earned it. Talking about problem is not bashing even if it's on going but when it becomes personal with insults or slander than we enter into bashing.
I see very little bashing and I see very little posts deleted. I see lots of criticism and little deleted posts probably because JD does not see it as bashing. I know he has a rule against bashing and does not tolerate it.
We need to be careful to label criticism as bashing as there is a huge difference.
Poo has earned strong criticism on 800 engine failures. Doo has earned strong criticism on ring issues back in 03 starting with the 600HO. Doo does do a good job of owning up dealing with it where poo guys are fixing their sleds at their cost and adding fix kits and yet we see little bashing, sometimes posts deleted, rightfully so.
No offense guys but is some brand loyalty causing any criticism of your brand to be viewed as bashing, because it's threatens how you feel about your brand?
It just seems some of you are claiming bashing because you don't like what you hear. Think about it, I've been here for many years and the poo 800 is basically the only strong criticism many of us have had with poo,,,and don't you think they earned it. Talking about problem is not bashing even if it's on going but when it becomes personal with insults or slander than we enter into bashing.