Snowmobile Can MBRP vs GGB
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Sorry barking up wrong tree as I am not pro can at all and will not run one as I do not need too with the new HP on sleds today...Sorry
Absolutely and totally incorrect...stock is engineered the way it is to avoid warranty claims, no other reason
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wrong...stock works best like renegade said....In the days of old after market worked best....now after all the testing and engineering stock now works best...before it was some dudes in a garage making pipes.....now its not.....and there is now back pressure and tuning and EFI and altitude compensation and pipe temperature and so on and so on...the pipe is not engineered for an engine warranty claim anymore since EFI and CPU mapping controls almost all of that now...if you put a different pipe on a machine...what tries to compensate for that now....you by moving the needle seats.... or the CPU mapping? the CPU these days
Wrong......if anything aftermarket stuff works better now than in the past......nowadays they have the technology to monitor everything a motor is doing and tune with real data to optimize performance without sacrificing drivability or reliability.......between warranties and EPA regulations stock tunes are 100% a comprise to make everybody happy.......even aftermarket mufflers will gain a few hp or at least break even nowadays.
This.
Not like yeee olden days when you had to change jets and look at your spark plugs color to help gauge what you are doing.
Sensor in your pipe helps make fuel adjustments based on readings.
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yes but the stock pipes are better and monitor better than the aftermarket pipes....these days...and stock pipes are 100% engineered for performance and durability....not a compromise by any means....say it together...STOCK IS BETTER....now don't ya'll feel better....LOL
ICT Sledder
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Manufacturers are building what they can in order to best maximize a balance between performance, reliability, cost competitiveness, and emissions. They have to; customers and the sled press want HP for the least amount of money, all sides want reliability, and the Federal Government mandates emissions. Aftermarket is going to shortchange at least one of these considerations in order to make improvement in another. To think otherwise is to assume that a manufacturer's engineers and R&D department has less going for it than a few guys working out of a small shop somewhere with a little dyno and a single computer running a bookleg copy of CATIA.
Lol how do you even have access to the internet in that cave you live in. I gained 2 sled lengths and 7 mph while getting an additional 1mpg with my pipe from DD. There is nothing wrong with stock but to think that there is no improvement to be made is ridiculous.
Love can threads as everyone is an expert and defend what they believe in.....Bottom line the law is the law and anything above 88 could be a ticket but very little is done about as some small northern towns need the sleds around to survive so tickets are not written in fear u will not come back.
Now if a aftermarket exhaust system is made and meets the 88 requirement fine.
Now if a aftermarket exhaust system is made and meets the 88 requirement fine.
This is truth.
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come on man.....please....you got that increase from a D and D kit....that's springs and helix and pipe and whatever else ya got....and the increase was from the clutch and hitting the correct RPM's for the powerband.....you did not increase from just a pipe...aint gonna happen and we all know that much...can improvements be made...yes....but for the most riders stock is best....most pipes decrease HP....you know why...because they also then raise the RPM's over the powerband when trying to tune.....almost everyone that mods goes higher on RPM's and we all know....at least those of us that know lower RPM's actually pull harder for longer...higher RPM's drop off and slow the sled....so your telling us all you did was swap out a pipe and achieved 7mph....this increase was from exhaust and not intake....I highly doubt it without doing 5 other mods at the same time...leave everything as is and put the stock pipe back on it....you will then notice no difference....still will be the 7 mph faster...and whats that mean....the pipe didn't increase nuthin'
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Trail riding and weight saving claims do not make sense with cans. That 9-15 pound savings can make the difference in the bush. Use them responsibly and don't open those power valves at the gas station or parkview
and 9:10 people won't know the difference. A better bolt on performance option would be to go to a belt drive system.
and 9:10 people won't know the difference. A better bolt on performance option would be to go to a belt drive system.You sir are wrong again......of course proper fuel adjustments were made with a controller no different than jetting an older sled and with an increase in power comes corresponding clutch adjustments........yes I'm sure the clutching was part of the gains but it was clutched spot on before the pipe also. This is all really a moot point as it is a BETTER THAN STOCK performing sled......you really need to do some research on modern aftermarket mods you might learn a thing or a 100.
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Trail riding and weight saving claims do not make sense with cans. That 9-15 pound savings can make the difference in the bush. Use them responsibly and don't open those power valves at the gas station or parkview
This is true but I don't feel loud aftermarket mufflers really have any purpose even off trail.
Okay, so you switched to "SEA and SNOW"??? Now, we know where the improved performance came from!!! Works every time.
Lol that stuffs the best.
Sadly this post has gone far from what it's original intent was. I'm not pro can I'm also not against them as my race sled had one it also never seen trail un till it had a factory exhaust. However I've seen sleds be tested with trail cans and pass well under the limit. I believe it was mbrp who was doing free testing in Gaylord last year. Dnr officer right there and his meter read the exact same as there's I'm sure there are performance gains from cans I don't personally see the need on new sleds but that's me everyone has an opinion however the law is clearly the law follow it and do the right thing or don't it's a personal choice. But remember having a can is perfectly legal as long as it's under the limit. Speaking for in Michigan I don't know about other states.
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