Stopping at Stop signs!!

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ridindirty800

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OK so after almost hitting someone on a pedal bike this week I would like to express my feelings about this!! Behind my house is a multi- use trail! In the summer its for walkers/bikers/rollarbladers and runners! And in the winter it is used for snowmobiling and X country sking! Well every winter you can find the DNR sitting behind my house waiting for sled to coast threw or not come to a complete stop and then pull over and gladly write a ticket! (which I agree with) But the other day coming home from work i was passing the trail and all of a sudden out of the corner of my eye i caught a biker flying right threw the stop sign, locked my brakes up and came with in 2 ft of hitting him. I dont get why the DNR is not out enforcing these people as well. I would say 60-75% never stop at the signs along the bike trail... Just think if they are going to nail snowmobilers all winter they should be writing tickets to bikers as well!! Maybe this is no big deal but I just hate how we (snowmobiliers) get singled out all the time!! We are not the only breaking the law! in fact I bet they could right more tickets in ONE weekend behind my house in the summer then they could all winter during the snowmobiling season!!
 
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Firecatguy

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ridindirty800 said:
OK so after almost hitting someone on a pedal bike this week I would like to express my feelings about this!! Behind my house is a multi- use trail! In the summer its for walkers/bikers/rollarbladers and runners! And in the winter it is used for snowmobiling and X country sking! Well every winter you can find the DNR sitting behind my house waiting for sled to coast threw or not come to a complete stop and then pull over and gladly write a ticket! (which I agree with) But the other day coming home from work i was passing the trail and all of a sudden out of the corner of my eye i caught a biker flying right threw the stop sign, locked my brakes up and came with in 2 ft of hitting him. I dont get why the DNR is not out enforcing these people as well. I would say 60-75% never stop at the signs along the bike trail... Just think if they are going to nail snowmobilers all winter they should be writing tickets to bikers as well!! Maybe this is no big deal but I just hate how we (snowmobiliers) get singled out all the time!! We are not the only breaking the law! in fact I bet they could right more tickets in ONE weekend behind my house in the summer then they could all winter during the snowmobiling season!!
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here in MN if a biker runs stop sign and you hit them...its the vehicle fault......hahaha how stupid is that....the bikes are getting out of control...riding down the lane of traffic 20 below posted speed.....going around traffic at stop light only to cut in front of first vehicle then go 20 under posted speed...good stuff
 
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borderstaff

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The difference may be in who is writing the ticket. The DNR is the one writing the tickets in the winter as they have more time for that - in the summer they have to patrol boats, ATV's, PWC etc and it would be the Police who would then have to watch bikers breaking the law. On a side note I think that it was proposed in MN to allow bikes to go through stop signs if there wasn't traffic in the way - although I don't know if that passed yet.
 
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dcsnomo

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borderstaff said:
The difference may be in who is writing the ticket. The DNR is the one writing the tickets in the winter as they have more time for that - in the summer they have to patrol boats, ATV's, PWC etc and it would be the Police who would then have to watch bikers breaking the law. On a side note I think that it was proposed in MN to allow bikes to go through stop signs if there wasn't traffic in the way - although I don't know if that passed yet.
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I'm guessing the reason DNR writes sled tix is because sleds have a DNR permit and operate under DNR regulations. Bikes do not operate under DNR regs, therefore DNR isn't able to enforce.
 
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borderstaff

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I looked on the MN DNR site and found that the DNR maintains the trails. Here's the excerpt:

"The Minnesota DNR manages thousands of miles of public trails, including those in 73 state parks and recreation areas, along 21 state trails and in 58 state forests. It also manages 31 water trails, which provide paddling opportunities along streams, rivers, and Lake Superior. In the winter, the DNR grooms thousands of miles of trails for snowmobiling and cross-country skiing."

And here's the page posted on June 3, 2010 that it was from:

http://news.dnr.state.mn.us/index.php/2010/06/03/43650/

So...at least in MN, wouldn't you be led to believe that the DNR should be the ones that also are supposed to patrol trail use?
 
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ezra

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A few yrs back I had a bike run in to the side of my truck he did not stop there was no crosswalk lines on the rd.he was trying to bitch at me so I called the cops I did not get a tix I was in the right .but what really pissed me off was the DB on the bike did not get a tix he had no insurance I did not want to turn it in to my insurance.the DB did not want to pay to have my door buffed out so I turned it in to Allstate and they got the money from him for allot more than the 125 I asked the DB for in the first place.I guess the faggy tight shorts and matching tight faggy shirt cut off the blood flow to his brain and he lost common sense.he was going to show me he was in the right well I got a check for a new door new paint and a rental car .then I buffed out the scratch in my garage in about 15min.I cant stand bikers now. stay on the side walk
 
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mjkaliszak

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Firecatguy said:
here in MN if a biker runs stop sign and you hit them...its the vehicle fault......hahaha how stupid is that....the bikes are getting out of control...riding down the lane of traffic 20 below posted speed.....going around traffic at stop light only to cut in front of first vehicle then go 20 under posted speed...good stuff
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That's stupid... I love it !
 
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mxz_chris

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Ok, as a casual cyclist, and former bike commuter to work, I have a few points.
Running a stop sign, on anything, is dangerous. They are there for a reason, usually to keep you alive. I, at the very least, really slowed down at signs. There were certain low traffic areas I rode every day that I just looked and kept rolling. More times than not, when I eneded up in the gravel it was a stupid motorist pulling out of a side street without looking or stopping, nearly hitting me. Every time but one, they went on their merry way like I was at fault. Stupid knows no boundaries, car , bike, sled, doesn't matter.
As for staying on the sidewalk, that is illegal. the one time I rode on a sidewalk in a city, I nearly killed a guy walking out of a storefront. Never do that again.
The spandex shorts are faggy. I wear bike shorts for the comfort/rash protection, but they are under normal shorts. And lose the sponsor logos, you are not in the Tour.
 
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98panther

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Bike clothes are only dumb until you understand what they are for. Just like Snowmobile clothes, and armour.

The shorts have pads in them so you can stand those darn tiny seats. And are tight so they don't get caught on everything. Baggy short will nearly kill ya every time you try to get off the bike, they hook on the front of the seat. The shirts are cormfortable so your not all sweaty.

As for the sponsors all over them I won't wear those - can't figure that one out myself.

I ride the streets, but never ride the busy streets. Almost always where there is a busy road - the next street over is empty. That's where I ride
 
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xcr440

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I've seen it over and over as well, they want to take over the trails, but under their conditions. They don't want all those little stud dimples in their nice paved bike path, but haven't a clue of, nor care to, follow the rules on them.

I saw two bicyclists this past weekend in MN blow right through a 4 way stop in front of cars, they didn't even stop pedaling......

I know this sounds like lumping all bicyclists together, but it is the same thing they do with snowmobilers. You'll never get everyone to follow all the rules all the time.
 
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michaeladams

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bikes in wisconsin only have right to three feet of the edge of the road,i can see if there are a dozen bikes or more on a ride to need a whole lane but if there are only a few of you-move over.your only going 20 mph the rest of us are paying to use the road with our registration and are going faster than you,weigh more than you and if you want to live get a clue.after a few idiots and close calls i just lay on the horn all the way past these guys now,and if they won't share the road and i'm on my harley i give em' a good dose of my hooker tuned flow headers.those pipes could drive nails
 
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mxz_chris

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michaeladams said:
bikes in wisconsin only have right to three feet of the edge of the road,i can see if there are a dozen bikes or more on a ride to need a whole lane but if there are only a few of you-move over.your only going 20 mph the rest of us are paying to use the road with our registration and are going faster than you,weigh more than you and if you want to live get a clue.after a few idiots and close calls i just lay on the horn all the way past these guys now,and if they won't share the road and i'm on my harley i give em' a good dose of my hooker tuned flow headers.those pipes could drive nails
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So you're the guy that makes me want to carry my sidearm. I do carry a weapon with me on my bike just for a-holes who want a challenge. Good idea startling someone who is dodging cars, nothing makes you ride straighter.
 
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mxz_chris

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Ok, that may have been harsh. My point is, many drivers are inconsiderate, as well as cyclists. Doing what you're doing just makes things worse, not better. How about slowing down, and moving over.
Many of us on bikes do carry protection, and starting a fight on the roadside can only go badly. Your tactics will only illicit an angry response, to which you may over-react, and it will escalate from there. Lots of people are real tough when they have a 4000lb advantage. I have been in confrontations where a car stopped, it never goes well. For example, a group of us were riding in Walworth county. Not a city road, plenty of room, single file. Some smarta-- thought he would get real close to us, by the time he got to the front rider, he got a foot in the quarter panel. Nice big dent. He stopped, and ended up going home bleeding. An unnecessary situation, that could have been even worse.
 
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matti

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I've had lots of motorists give me the finger when I've been on my bike. Only once, though, did someone pull over and start yelling at me. It was a bit scary, for sure. Motorists should be considerate of bicyclists and bicyclists should be considerate of motorists, in my opinion. It should go both ways. Common sense rules.
 
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98panther

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U locks work well. I've had a Pickup pull over and go nutz on me, I had a green but he felt I should stopped so he could come around me and turn right. I was in front of him the whole time - right up until the intersection.

Old rollypolyfart rolled out of his truck started wabbling back. He could run pretty fast though, when I rein-acted the sideways golf scene with a ulock in my hand. Almost ps'd myself laughing.
 
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michaeladams

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mxzchris,all you have to do is share the road and you will have no problem with me,also i do slow down.bikes are normally inconsiderate.i think bikes should have to register with plates if they want a full lane. i also carry protection,prophelactics if you need to know.the only scewing other people i do is when and where i can.
 
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