To all that snow checked a new Pol.

[G]

I live 65 miles from Roseau where Pol sleds are built. Along with all the Covid related parts and material shortages we have all been reading about the entire region up here is desperately short on labor. Just heard today that it is going to be impossible to build as many sleds as Pol snochecked just because there are simply not enough hands. So to those of you that snochecked you better hold on to your old ride until your new one is in your shed. And if you need a job come on up.

 

[old abe]

Very good info grub!

 

[ezra]

120 days out to order a 50 inch rzr right now .
Have been in a few dealers this week all have a bunch of sleds a few bikes and that's about it. If they do have a sxs or atv it was just put together awaiting the owner to pick it up . 2 Dealers told me they have been holding off calling owner until unit is ready to go so they have a chance for it to sit in showroom for a day or 2 so people have something to look at before placing a order . Crazy

 

[IOWASLEDDER]

120 days out to order a 50 inch rzr right now .
Have been in a few dealers this week all have a bunch of sleds a few bikes and that's about it. If they do have a sxs or atv it was just put together awaiting the owner to pick it up . 2 Dealers told me they have been holding off calling owner until unit is ready to go so they have a chance for it to sit in showroom for a day or 2 so people have something to look at before placing a order . Crazy

I ordered a 2021 Polaris RZR Pro XP mid January. I just finally took delivery of it 2 weeks ago. I have a windshield wiper on order for it.......was told mid August before that comes in. This is definitely crazy

 

[ezra]

I ordered a 2021 Polaris RZR Pro XP mid January. I just finally took delivery of it 2 weeks ago. I have a windshield wiper on order for it.......was told mid August before that comes in. This is definitely crazy

A ebay manual boat one for 17 bucks will fit in that hole just fine till your few hundred buck wiper kit gets in

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353436853369?hash=item524a7a6479:g:8awAAOSwMxNgYo4e

 

[ezra]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1137958291...brand=KEMIMOTO&_trksid=p2332490.c100930.m5375

 

[kip]

Good info. Grub. I have spoken with some of the powers that be at Polaris and my understanding is all snowchecks will be built. I was told they will cut some models for stock which I've seen that already and even that was minimal. Thinks look good for the upcoming winter thus far

 

[Deleted member 10829]

Imagine anyone being short on labor right now?! The government is so wise, they are paying people more to sit at home than go to work. Most people are staying at home, can't blame them. I sure hope I get my sled in time, I've sold both of mine to lovemydobe.

 

[slimcake]

Well they gotta quit give people all that welfare money to not go back to work. I have been trying to hire a service tech for a year now and forget it. Wife is having to rotate staff between stores and close stores early cause people are getting paid to much welfare. Its GOTTA STOP!!!! Every place is hiring. Every place is dealing with the same crap right now.

 

[euphoric1]

Well they gotta quit give people all that welfare money to not go back to work. I have been trying to hire a service tech for a year now and forget it. Wife is having to rotate staff between stores and close stores early cause people are getting paid to much welfare. Its GOTTA STOP!!!! Every place is hiring. Every place is dealing with the same crap right now.

X1000!!! we are still waiting for zero turns, walk behinds and handheld equipment we ordered back in NOVEMBER!! Not looking for pat on the back but I did not take any grants or PPP loans as we felt there were businesses that had to shutter at no fault to their own. Now a year later at the busiest time of the year for us our front end sales (equipment) sales are down 54% and I know we aren't the only ones. We too lost an tech and was forced to hire, we had an endless supply of people that wanted to work for cash or were on disability and needed to work for cash, sorry but doesn't work that way. Get off your butt and get back to work and lets bring manufacturing back where it belongs and MAGA!!! I think at this point Polaris needs to make a statement reguarding any late deliveries to ease the pain that will occur when the season arrives, as short as it is.

 

[SledTL]

I call BS on the welfare card. Its an extra $300, its not like they are handing out $10K checks. If 3 bills does it for people these days then I obviously live under a rock and don't spend any money. Think its more people realizing that they were poor jobs with little to no benefits and poor pay and saying I don't wanna do that anymore.

 

[timo]

sorry to say but you are living under a rock.
A guy making,, say 15-16-17 bucks an hour after taxes, insurance etc,,,, is bringing home the same money ( or close to ) as collecting the $300 for Fed and 370 (or there abouts) from state for unemployment. Not much incentive to go to work.

I call BS on the welfare card. Its an extra $300, its not like they are handing out $10K checks. If 3 bills does it for people these days then I obviously live under a rock and don't spend any money. Think its more people realizing that they were poor jobs with little to no benefits and poor pay and saying I don't wanna do that anymore.

 

[whitedust]

I call BS on the welfare card. Its an extra $300, its not like they are handing out $10K checks. If 3 bills does it for people these days then I obviously live under a rock and don't spend any money. Think its more people realizing that they were poor jobs with little to no benefits and poor pay and saying I don't wanna do that anymore.

What are these people you are referring too going to do for money when the benefits run out???

 

[old abe]

I call BS on the welfare card. Its an extra $300, its not like they are handing out $10K checks. If 3 bills does it for people these days then I obviously live under a rock and don't spend any money. Think its more people realizing that they were poor jobs with little to no benefits and poor pay and saying I don't wanna do that anymore.

Agree! Perhaps now the labor wage issue will get addressed? The major farm equipment manufacturer can't keep help, skilled, or unskilled, due to wage pay, and a unreliable employment! The $300 dollar welfare has nothing to do with it. A very good friend of mine, who I used to work with, his son quit, and doubled his pay at another job shop, with good benefits, and job security. His owners are grabbing up as much work, it's out there, and having no trouble hiring the help. Proper pay, and they will come, eh? Income disparity has caught up to us! Henry Ford went thru this same thing many years ago! Sad but so it is!

 

[xcr440]

This is just the subtle way a $15/hr min wage is being pushed on employers. If they want workers, they are going to have to up the wages or people will just continue to sit home as long as the hand outs keep coming.

As for Polaris getting sleds built, I think its going to be a tough go. Perhaps they can convince the people they do have to take on some lucrative OT. I still have concerns with parts. We all see it across many industries. And, I am still waiting on a bearing that they claim they cannot get for the jackshaft on my '21 (Skinny chain case bearing). Should be an interesting fall, and I'm glad I still have two I can hop on and go when the snow flies....

 

[whitedust]

It’s been my experience that a free enterprise economy the labor market sets the competitive wage. Low skill wage is exactly that and the wage in free a enterprise system is like water it seeks its own level. I can tell you I will never ever pay $20gs for a new snowmobile so OEMs need to consider how they can manufacture affordable products. How they do that is their decision. States are already walking back unemployment benefits saying you must take a job when offered. Government needs to stay out of the labor markets let the market define the wage for various jobs. Simple imo.

 

[euphoric1]

Agree! Perhaps now the labor wage issue will get addressed? The major farm equipment manufacturer can't keep help, skilled, or unskilled, due to wage pay, and a unreliable employment! The $300 dollar welfare has nothing to do with it. A very good friend of mine, who I used to work with, his son quit, and doubled his pay at another job shop, with good benefits, and job security. His owners are grabbing up as much work, it's out there, and having no trouble hiring the help. Proper pay, and they will come, eh? Income disparity has caught up to us! Henry Ford went thru this same thing many years ago! Sad but so it is!

if the $300 bonus has nothing to do with it and better wages will return people to work, and a fair living wage is what people want, then give it to them but with a fair "living" wage we will no longer need a monthly grocery card to buy whatever they want with it, or insurance that covers eye, dental and medical at little or no cost to them including premiums and deductibles, rental and energy assistance. So yes when you start getting a fair "living" wage like the rest of us do we can do away with all of the assistance... IM ALL FOR IT!!! but you wait and see what happens when they find out what insurance really costs, a spree at the grocery store, heat for your home in the winter. Then you will see what alot of these people think already.... IT COSTS TOO MUCH TO WORK so why should I. But that's right force the business owner already on tight margins to cough it up!! after all we are independently wealthy and that's why everyone owns a business guess what happens to end product! are people that oblivious?? and you said it old abe "doubled his pay at another shop" the SAME opportunity everyone has if they want to work and want to better themselves.

 

[slimcake]

Agree! Perhaps now the labor wage issue will get addressed? The major farm equipment manufacturer can't keep help, skilled, or unskilled, due to wage pay, and a unreliable employment! The $300 dollar welfare has nothing to do with it. A very good friend of mine, who I used to work with, his son quit, and doubled his pay at another job shop, with good benefits, and job security. His owners are grabbing up as much work, it's out there, and having no trouble hiring the help. Proper pay, and they will come, eh? Income disparity has caught up to us! Henry Ford went thru this same thing many years ago! Sad but so it is!

How can you make this argument when the govt is the one driving up prices. Do you think mfg's just gonna eat the increase? No the consumer is. Now guess what? Getting paid a pretty penny but everything worker Joe needs/wants to buy just went up in price. You say it yourself. 20K sleds and sxs's 50k for a half ton pickup. 400,000 dollar and up houses. When uncle sam (can you still call it Uncle?????) puts his thumb on the scale it throws all marketing theory out the window. That shouldn't be a labor shortage force. The govt should want people working and chasing the American Dream. Not sitting on their asses collecting checks. Oh and its not just 300 bucks a week. Its 300 on top of the normal UI check. I know first hand. Just had to dispute a guy that won't come back to work. He was getting almost 800 A WEEK IN UNEMPLOYEMENT OR ALMOST 42 GRAND A YEAR SALARY FOR DOING NOTHING!!!!! ITS GOTTA STOP!!!!! How can anyone argue that this is normal or good for wages?????? Last thing. Anyone wanna talk about inflation????

 

[favoritos]

Good info. Grub. I have spoken with some of the powers that be at Polaris and my understanding is all snowchecks will be built. I was told they will cut some models for stock which I've seen that already and even that was minimal. Thinks look good for the upcoming winter thus far

To the bold, I wholeheartedly agree.
Next winter is still quite a way down the trail. Things will change a lot by then.

I know it's hard not to worry. I admit I thought about some of my pre-season purchases last year. I kept the backup sleds around until the new machines arrived. I "orderd" a trailer late summer. (That turned out to be a brilliant idea. The dealers didn't have many choices left when I picked up the thing in November.)
I anticipated a lot of people making equipment purchases last year. They had money and few avenues to spend. I expect this season to be a rollover of that demand.

Polaris is creative. They will figure out a way to get through this tight spot.
The 09 economy left a sour taste with a lot of employees. Companies used it as an opportunity to reduce payroll with pay reductions and layoffs. Dedication and loyalty were not assets to employees. It just takes a little more to convince them to join in this time.

We are pretty lucky in this country. We are getting back to living. Our money also feeds a lot of other economies. They will hustle to fill those pent up orders. I hope the creative companies figure out how to do it here at home. It would be a win win for our long term benefit. People like Kip would be busy for a long time.

 

[old abe]

if the $300 bonus has nothing to do with it and better wages will return people to work, and a fair living wage is what people want, then give it to them but with a fair "living" wage we will no longer need a monthly grocery card to buy whatever they want with it, or insurance that covers eye, dental and medical at little or no cost to them including premiums and deductibles, rental and energy assistance. So yes when you start getting a fair "living" wage like the rest of us do we can do away with all of the assistance... IM ALL FOR IT!!! but you wait and see what happens when they find out what insurance really costs, a spree at the grocery store, heat for your home in the winter. Then you will see what alot of these people think already.... IT COSTS TOO MUCH TO WORK so why should I. But that's right force the business owner already on tight margins to cough it up!! after all we are independently wealthy and that's why everyone owns a business guess what happens to end product! are people that oblivious?? and you said it old abe "doubled his pay at another shop" the SAME opportunity everyone has if they want to work and want to better themselves.

I wont disagree one bit! It took quite some years to get us to the point where we are at today. Years ago benefits were cheaper than pay raises! Healthcare was not for egregious profit! People in small, or rural communities made a living wage working local. FACTS! Track the "REAL" transfer of "WEALTH" in the USA over the last 40 years and see how it worked, eh. Reality, whats comes around, goes around? I am not a "Anti Capitalist" in any such way! Completely unbridelled capitalism has its dangers however. Sad, but so.