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According to Pol website starting wage is $17 to $18 bucks an hour. Plus they have a sign on bonus program and pretty good benefits. Another regional problem up here is housing. Roseau, TRF. and Warroad ( Marvin Windows) and even here in my town there are more jobs than people and no place to put the people if they did come. It is kind of the perfect storm. One local mfg industry has 15 employees but they could put 50 to work. At Marvins the head office honchos are now required to put in some time on the lines. Pol can't shift Sled manufacturing to any of their other factories because they are already behind production at those factories. Even if the starting wage was $25.00 it wouldn't matter. There is no place to live.
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I am 60 miles east of Roseau. Polaris runs employment ads in the local paper every week for as long as I can remember. Here is their ad from last weeks paper. Its small but readable. Walk in off the street with no experience and start at $17.14/hour. Not saying that is great or terrible just sharing what it is.
To the bold, I wholeheartedly agree.
Next winter is still quite a way down the trail. Things will change a lot by then.
I know it's hard not to worry. I admit I thought about some of my pre-season purchases last year. I kept the backup sleds around until the new machines arrived. I "orderd" a trailer late summer. (That turned out to be a brilliant idea. The dealers didn't have many choices left when I picked up the thing in November.)
I anticipated a lot of people making equipment purchases last year. They had money and few avenues to spend. I expect this season to be a rollover of that demand.
Polaris is creative. They will figure out a way to get through this tight spot.
The 09 economy left a sour taste with a lot of employees. Companies used it as an opportunity to reduce payroll with pay reductions and layoffs. Dedication and loyalty were not assets to employees. It just takes a little more to convince them to join in this time.
We are pretty lucky in this country. We are getting back to living. Our money also feeds a lot of other economies. They will hustle to fill those pent up orders. I hope the creative companies figure out how to do it here at home. It would be a win win for our long term benefit. People like Kip would be busy for a long time.
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Good post grub! Got to meet a couple earlier this year in far north central Ia. Wonderful people! They were both employed at Poo's Victory Motorcycle plant. They are both now employed at a "Specialized Truck/Equipment" plant, not far from where Victory was located. Very, very good jobs, with very, very good incomes. I believe they used their camper for a while?
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I suppose you could live out of a camper down south but that isn't going to work too well up here for 8 months out of a year.
And good luck getting a contractor to build you a new home. One of my buds on my pool team is a framer - a guy wanted his cabin in Spooner built NOW, and paid my bud and his guys an extra $48k this spring to "crank it out" on weekends through April. An EXTRA $48k, above his normal rates.....
My friend has what he says is a "4 season" camper? I'm not sure how you handle the hookups?
To the bold, I wholeheartedly agree.
Next winter is still quite a way down the trail. Things will change a lot by then.
I know it's hard not to worry. I admit I thought about some of my pre-season purchases last year. I kept the backup sleds around until the new machines arrived. I "orderd" a trailer late summer. (That turned out to be a brilliant idea. The dealers didn't have many choices left when I picked up the thing in November.)
I anticipated a lot of people making equipment purchases last year. They had money and few avenues to spend. I expect this season to be a rollover of that demand.
Polaris is creative. They will figure out a way to get through this tight spot.
The 09 economy left a sour taste with a lot of employees. Companies used it as an opportunity to reduce payroll with pay reductions and layoffs. Dedication and loyalty were not assets to employees. It just takes a little more to convince them to join in this time.
We are pretty lucky in this country. We are getting back to living. Our money also feeds a lot of other economies. They will hustle to fill those pent up orders. I hope the creative companies figure out how to do it here at home. It would be a win win for our long term benefit. People like Kip would be busy for a long time.
FYI Guys; last winter our hotel had dozens of guys from Mississippi, Alabama and Texas staying near the Cat plant and being shuttled to Roseau to build sleds and ATV's. Same at our Warroad hotels..too much work for not enough workers.
One thing you all forgot; this stimulus money had driven up demand, prices AND INFLATION!!
The next cycle in 2 years is all the bad loans from guys who paid near MSRP on stuff that is worth 50% less than they paid for it.
Sad!!
Every front line position in our organization is open for hire and no candidates.
Beginning next week we begun a huge $500 sign on bonus, $4 per hour bonus for all hours worked when you have perfect attendance and a 15,000 household direct mail campaign to find candidates.
Yes, PEOPLE STAY HOME TO GET UNEMPLOYMENT..they are not mandated to look for work as under normal guidelines.
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"Beginning next week we begun a huge $500 sign on bonus, $4 per hour bonus for all hours worked when you have perfect attendance and a 15,000 household direct mail campaign to find candidates."
Just got to say a $4 per hour bonus for perfect attendance may be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Right off the bat that implies that if my kid gets sick and I have to miss work to stay home with them, I am not only losing a day of pay but also $4/hour for all the time I worked (that pay period?). This makes anyone with kids immediately discount this supposed perk.
Also that kind of policy promotes people coming to work sick and spreading illness. Covid aside, I could have some co-worker puking their guts out and hiding they are sick from everyone spreading a stomach bug because they don't want to to give up their perfect attendance and $4/hour bonus.
Just got to say a $4 per hour bonus for perfect attendance may be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Right off the bat that implies that if my kid gets sick and I have to miss work to stay home with them, I am not only losing a day of pay but also $4/hour for all the time I worked (that pay period?). This makes anyone with kids immediately discount this supposed perk.
Also that kind of policy promotes people coming to work sick and spreading illness. Covid aside, I could have some co-worker puking their guts out and hiding they are sick from everyone spreading a stomach bug because they don't want to to give up their perfect attendance and $4/hour bonus.
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I think you are spot on about that. In 2 years there is going to be a lot of lightly used recreational vehicles for sale.
Yeah, well, sad, but so it is.
I definitely do not have all the answers but I do have to do something to improve attendance.
Thank you for the feedback..any ideas?
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3 bills on top of your unemployment. Now add a extra 200 a mo for pretty much ever for every child tax credit you filed on your taxes . Total load of BS . People in washingtion need to be swinging for **** like this
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Nop the extra 4 bucks for showing up was the best thing I did with one of my last guys . A lot if the every Monday 3 2 flu going on .
It is not used as a weapon to screw guys who are ligit sick it is to keep the overwhelming chit bags in line .
And bfd so you get ligit sic 1 week are you really going to work sick for 160 bucks ? If so that is pretty sad.
As far as your kids not my prob . Not your employers prob . Not his hr person's prob . They did not hire your kids or agree to catter to there needs . It is a job not daycare .
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In my 30 years as an employer of the general non skilled public not unlike the type of people Fuji is looking for I have found that there are very few times when employees really get puking their guts out sick. Over time the definition of sick is not what it used to be. I understand completely where Fuji is coming from. It is a carrot. I have tried performance bonuses with mixed results. Someone always has a 'good excuse' and ' I work harder than so and so even if I miss a day here and there.' Hard to win. Which is exactly why more and better machines are becoming available all the time.
Better machines is the way things are going for sure. People are more entitled, and don't want to work. I know a lot of young folks will argue with me about this, but its a fact. I don't do it often, but I drove through a McDonalds yesterday and it was automated, no longer a human taking your order. So many things going this direction, its a shame. They also had a $500 signing bonus. I don't know the details, and honestly don't care its the fact they cant get people to work.
Just had a conversation with an old friend who works for Speedy Delivery in Sconnie. They put a freeze on their MN accounts, no new ones, because they can't get people to work there. Office personnel are spending 5-6 hours of their day doing the loading and unloading of trucks and vans that should be happening over night. Right now in WI they can at least keep up since things opened sooner and the employees they had stayed, since the delivery service is an obvious booming industry at the moment.
Not a shame imo you could order Mcds inside via screen for years just moved it outside. I’m fine with that works for me. Bun and run needs to be fast and easy I don’t need humans for that just get me thru quickly.
UPS, Fed X, and Fed X freight have no problems with help? Why is that, really? Could it be wages/pay?
LOL every week we have a different Fed x driver. Most of them don't belong behind the wheel. I will admit Speedee is SUPER cheap shipping. They could raise their rates and still be the cheapest game in town. Very lucky to have them!