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tealracing16

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I believe that they are paid off but we will never lose the tax increase. The latest expansion they are paying for themselves and what most people don't know is that the Packers own most of the land around Lambeau. They own most of the neighborhood directly south of them and most of the frontage along Lombardi. They are paying this themselves.
 
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freezinbevr

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ezra quote:
http://www.tcbmag.com/factfinder/big...ers-top25.aspx
" just in case you want to see the states biggist employers and where the rest of your cash is going "

University of Minnesota: 2.5;1 student to employee ratio??? I realize there is the hospital as well, but that could be a large reason tuition is exploding?? How much of the U's budget is in the "education fund" from the state as well as the tuition costs?
The city our shop is in has built two museum-like facilities in the last 2 years( one is the public works building, the other is a firehouse) Funny how our taxes keep going up hundreds of dollars a year on a concrete box with four walls and a flat roof. I understand the need for the buildings obviously, but why in the world do we need to glitz the heck out of everything when it comes to public funded projects?? (Buildings, pretty bridges, pretty fences along the highways with decorative paneling instead of simple, landscaping along the freeway and at cloverleafs) Really???! There are plenty of projects that are just as elaborate as the stadium deal with ZERO return potential! Didn't "WE" just vote ourselves a tax increase for "clean water" a few years ago which in the fine print of the ballot stated it will also go (majority) to the fine arts???

I for one am increasingly becoming more embarrased to call myself a Minesotan with so much of this crap going on everywhere and yet we shouldn't check voter ID at the election box with two extremely tight races in the last two major elections???

Come ON!!!! The waste is WAY more widespread than just the stadiums!

Off the soapbox now,
 
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ezra

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renegade said:
What gets me is states will build stadiums for sports teams but not give tax breaks to corps that want to build and create real full time employment. There would be no out of pocket expenses for that approach. Instead they create rules and regs discouraging growth, and another tax!
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kinda like the ford plant that is now closed? they wanted a tax break Tim gave them one and that kept them around a few more yrs.I am sure a big Tax break would have kept that plant open doing somthing but now the state gets nothing but the bill for unimployment.GO MARK!


tealracing16 said:
I'm pretty torn on this issue because I lived in GB when the referendum went to the voters to approve the tax package or not. What it amounted to was an extra 0.05% tax on anything purchased in Brown County. At least with this approach the state should get the money back? or did I miss what the actual wording was. There were lots of people that didn't want the Packers to get the money but they new if they didn't do something the team would look at leaving. Yes we are the only publicly owned team but that doesn't mean they cant' look elsewhere.

It's sad that the state said to **** with the budget and approved this, but it is also sad that we put people who play a game most of us played in our backyards on such high pedestals.
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well lets just say some representatives wanted to put it to a vote on the ballot but Mark Dayton said NO that is why the people elect us so they dont have to make those decisions REALLY MARK you D.B.
and dont count on that .5% going away ever it never did with the dome just shifted to a diff project.when has a tax in this country been lowerd?
 
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ezra

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freezinbevr said:
ezra quote:
http://www.tcbmag.com/factfinder/big...ers-top25.aspx
" just in case you want to see the states biggist employers and where the rest of your cash is going "

University of Minnesota: 2.5;1 student to employee ratio??? I realize there is the hospital as well, but that could be a large reason tuition is exploding?? How much of the U's budget is in the "education fund" from the state as well as the tuition costs?
The city our shop is in has built two museum-like facilities in the last 2 years( one is the public works building, the other is a firehouse) Funny how our taxes keep going up hundreds of dollars a year on a concrete box with four walls and a flat roof. I understand the need for the buildings obviously, but why in the world do we need to glitz the heck out of everything when it comes to public funded projects?? (Buildings, pretty bridges, pretty fences along the highways with decorative paneling instead of simple, landscaping along the freeway and at cloverleafs) Really???! There are plenty of projects that are just as elaborate as the stadium deal with ZERO return potential! Didn't "WE" just vote ourselves a tax increase for "clean water" a few years ago which in the fine print of the ballot stated it will also go (majority) to the fine arts???

I for one am increasingly becoming more embarrased to call myself a Minesotan with so much of this crap going on everywhere and yet we shouldn't check voter ID at the election box with two extremely tight races in the last two major elections???

Come ON!!!! The waste is WAY more widespread than just the stadiums!

Off the soapbox now,
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Quick story on wast
I have a kitchen cab factory close to my home they have a outlet store well to make a long story short the kitchen cabs in my home are from that outlet.they were built for the New Jersy court house judges lunch Room .Retail over 30k.they sent them back not the shade they wanted they payed the 40% restocking fee and bought a diff set that are so close you would not know from room to room.well I got em for under 10k.
for a lunch room are you kidding me
 
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bearrassler

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It is a great deal for us Viking fans that don't live in MN, but with every new stadium the price to go to a game go way up. I am glad that I like to watch them on TV or listen on the radio.
 
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Hoosier

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Colts built a new stadium a few years ago. Real nice, multi-use stadium, retractable roof, big, etc. Cost was about $600 million. It was financed by, among other things, an additional 1% tax on restaurant receipts. The previous stadium was financed the same way in the early 80's. The bonds sold to build the previous stadium were never paid off, and we are still paying a 1% tax to pay the interest on those bonds. So now taxpayers are paying a 1% additional tax for both the old stadium, which was knocked down, and the new stadium. I don't see how this ends well for the taxpayer.
 
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doospunk

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durphee said:
Fellows, Minnesota looks like heaven compared to the joke state of Illinois.
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Couldn't find the actual pic, but once saw one come across email with this shot that read something like.....: "What's 14 years in the clink? At least I won't miss a world series!" (Came from a White Sox fan).

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ezra

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qber said:
Minnesota is a class act and I'm with the stadium 100%
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and with crooks like Mark Ritch overseeing the crooked elections it will remain a "class act".
have fun with your tax bill when the pull tabs money go to the football field and the schools fire departments and community needs start coming from the general fund instead.
but hay it is for the people and that is why there is so much resistance to letting it be used for community charity events 15 times a yr instead of 10.
I can tell you the GOP politicians that voted for this thing did not get far with the the delegates in caucus I was at this week. from other delegates from other causes I talked to same thing. people are getting sick of this kind of thing and are starting to hold people responsible for their votes
 
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mjkaliszak

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doospunk said:
Couldn't find the actual pic, but once saw one come across email with this shot that read something like.....: "What's 14 years in the clink? At least I won't miss a world series!" (Came from a White Sox fan).

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Ha Ha Ha ... Good One !
I think all states are corrupt. I have lived in 5.
Good thing I can't get 14 yrs for my speeding tickets.
The world is " grey " even though the rest of us want things to be " Black & White ".
I wonder if Sherrif Joe Arpieo could straighten things out ?
What's my point ? None as usual.
 
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