Trump is old and rich. He would rather be relaxing on the golf course, but instead he works for FREE, to restore our country. You lefties think that he has some evil motives for everything, when all he wants to do is make America great again. All you want to do is tear him down, because you want a leftist president like Obama again. You can't even call him by his name, and instead you disrespect him with "T bag". You should be ashamed of yourself, seriously.
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Trump is old and rich. He would rather be relaxing on the golf course, but instead he works for FREE, to restore our country. You lefties think that he has some evil motives for everything, when all he wants to do is make America great again. All you want to do is tear him down, because you want a leftist president like Obama again. You can't even call him by his name, and instead you disrespect him with "T bag". You should be ashamed of yourself, seriously.
highhertel
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Don’t want to make political, very serious subject here.
Trump is the king of name calling, some are actually quite comical.
BTW, I don’t have a blue bone in my body, I just don’t blindly
Vote for one party over the other. I do lots of write ins lol
Trump is the king of name calling, some are actually quite comical.
BTW, I don’t have a blue bone in my body, I just don’t blindly
Vote for one party over the other. I do lots of write ins lol
dfattack
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amen to that!
If you really meant that, you would have deleted your political post. But you didn't.
Very true
snobuilder
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like
snobuilder
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annual viral pneumonia deaths eclipse this C-19 hoax.
Also hearing that folks with real symptoms of other illness like heart problems are hesitant to get help because of this scare.
I stand corrected has not.....(yet) extended order, I do apologize, heard this from multiple people yesterday and as far as now not true. I am one of those heart problem folks, wearing a monitor this month waiting for a nuclear stress test that cardiologist wanted done with urgency and have been waiting for call back now for almost 2 weeks, call office and have left messages, was up to specialty care clinic at start of month and was a ghost town in there. I am at risk, and if it gets me my opinions will still be the same, meanwhile I will continue to work and function as I always have.
sweeperguy
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Totals over a year maybe, but the covid 19 deaths are coming VERY fast. A year from now going to be big numbers
As I'm typing this I hear covid deaths are over 19,000 in US. so we're going to be over the 22,000 (isn't that the # if I remember from other posts) annual deaths from flu.
So HOAX I think NOT
dfattack
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I won't go as far to say it's a hoax, but overplayed...I believe so..In my opinion. Travel bans yes. procedures to limit contact yes. Shutting down the economy no.
The 22,000 you quote for annual flu deaths seems to be very low. I believe the 2017/2018 flu season has approx. 80,000 deaths in the U.S. That year was higher than most, but still occurred WITH A VACCINE. I'm sure someone who knows how to find that stat can confirm.
sweeperguy
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AGREE 100% was going to add that to my post.
Well said!!! There is no telling what would happen if we didn't take action 3wks ago....
Most that compare this to any other illness is naive and doesn't get it. Go say that kind of stuff to a someone working in a hospital right now...and yes, there are many places that are seeing very little load increase from the virus but there are many many places that are a mess currently.
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and to add...all within a 3-4wk period. Imagine 6mos without action...we'd be at 500k-1M deaths. just like the flu...NOT!
According to docs i'm spoken to, with time, we'll learn that many deaths that were blamed on either the flu, pneumonia, bronchitis, etc. Nov through Jan will be determined to be caused by covid19.
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Good news...treatments are on the horizon
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-covid-19-treatments.html
More than half of a group of severely ill Corona virus patients improved after receiving an experimental anti viral drug
PS...I also agree it's been way over played....I would add on purpose to that as well
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-covid-19-treatments.html
More than half of a group of severely ill Corona virus patients improved after receiving an experimental anti viral drug
PS...I also agree it's been way over played....I would add on purpose to that as well
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu_pneumonia_mortality/flu_pneumonia.htm
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
Number of deaths for leading causes of death:
Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
Diabetes: 83,564
Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672 (2017)
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis: 50,633
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173
favoritos
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Think of this like throwing a rock into a glass smooth pond of water. The ripples keep traveling.
Throw that same rock into the same water when it is full of waves from boats and wind. You would barely notice the ripple from the rock.
People right now are unfortunately like the glass smooth water.
The various forms of the flu act like the rock in a pond full of waves.
This is new and it spreads easily. It will take some time to make more waves. We are starting to see more rocks hitting the water with people that are recovering.
It will eventually look like the flu if we can keep adding waves to the pond.
Maybe we will even get lucky to have a breakwall (vaccine or treatment) that works. It takes time to build.
Throw that same rock into the same water when it is full of waves from boats and wind. You would barely notice the ripple from the rock.
People right now are unfortunately like the glass smooth water.
The various forms of the flu act like the rock in a pond full of waves.
This is new and it spreads easily. It will take some time to make more waves. We are starting to see more rocks hitting the water with people that are recovering.
It will eventually look like the flu if we can keep adding waves to the pond.
Maybe we will even get lucky to have a breakwall (vaccine or treatment) that works. It takes time to build.
It varies from year to year, 17-18 had 61,000 in the US and was unusually bad, 18-19 had 34,200. Not that you meant to compare the numbers from the other causes of death to CV-19, but it would be useless to make any comparison as none are contagious.