Was it worth it?

candyman

New member
What are the odds that happens? I don't think, well I hope anyway, there is anybody who believes that is going to happen.

So I'll ask it again, how much farther do we kick this can down the road?? When do we quit moving the goal posts on getting people back to work?

I agree, the governor is not going to give in, this has become all political. Might as well get back to painting.
 

pclark

Well-known member
yes opinions are free for all to share and post

but something again, I have said a few times, is, just cause things are not so bad where your at right NOW
that can change very fast
I am in PA< and where still climbing with cases over a 1000 ever 24 hrs, and lots of deaths every day.

you say that things in "X" area are OK, with few cases and most only all residents , and not tourist

well, if they didn;t have the stay at home ban going on, that again, can change real fast and before long you can end up like we are here in PA
as it doesn't take many people to carry this thing into an area for it to spread VERY fast!

and this is the problem

if your area is good, NOW< that doesn;t mean it will stay that way
and if you want it to STAY that way, sadly, things still need to be in this dumb lock down state till there is a better option

just opening things back up, isn;t a good solution IMO
as what happens if things get worse
we going to start all over again with lock downs? will that help anyone 's business or the economy??


things like this, are one of them things, till it EFFECTS YOU, or your love one's, its easy to say its NOT THAT BAD.

(same you can say for those that don't own there own business, I get this too)
but once you have it effecting your love one's or you, I gather it changes the views real fast!

you have to many times look past your immediate view and area

PA right now is crazy
and don;t forget tons of us folks in PA< come to MI, and like places to ride sleds(all the more so past decade with pa having poor snow conditions), and some of us here in PA< own places in like places too , due to love of this sport!
and could have/or still can carry things there if , the stay at home is lifted!
maybe you should consider things lucky your not in the same boat as us??
but that doesn't again mean it cannot get like we are if things open back up before they should!

Sounds like you should be on lockdown where you are but a one size fits all lock down doesn't work and shouldn't be in place. There is a general consensus here in Wisconsin that we should open areas of the state that don't have the numbers to support this virus.

I only gave factual numbers here in our state, not anywhere else. Sooner or later every state will have to open, it unsustainable to think that we can go on like this.
 

xcr440

Well-known member
BTW - MN Resorts are "allowed" to be open now - following certain guide lines - but they can accept guests, if they choose to do so!
 

mrbb

Well-known member
Sounds like you should be on lockdown where you are but a one size fits all lock down doesn't work and shouldn't be in place. There is a general consensus here in Wisconsin that we should open areas of the state that don't have the numbers to support this virus.

I only gave factual numbers here in our state, not anywhere else. Sooner or later every state will have to open, it unsustainable to think that we can go on like this.

but the facts are,. if everyone did what your suggesting, opening things up in lower amount area's
how would that not lead to things spreading to higher numbers
after all this started in China, , and made it all over the world pretty fast. due to folks traveling
if you allow states or even areas with low amounts to open, and travel into other places
your asking for things to bet worse not better!

correct me if you feel I am wrong, but the main way of controlling and slowing the spread down is ONLY by staying apart from each other s littl;e as possible!

you take that out of the equation, and you can have another, or a new major outbreak , like is happening in some other places

the main reason , locally to me, is things got so BAD so fast, was few folks were following the rule to stay at home
and cases were growing at super alarming rates

now that more folks are staying at home, and following things, are rates are still high but NOT as high as they were
the staying at home is sort of the key to it not getting worse
it IS out there, and many have it and don't know it! due to so few are being tested, or want to be tested!
I don;t have a great answer to solving anything
I would just hate to see things get worse due to jumping the gun and having to start over!

it sucks here, I cam tell you that,
deaths in the new paper every day and thousands of new cases every day!
and we ain't that far from many states
and interstate traveling, or getting supplies, either way, can bring it still!

this show ain't over yet!

til there is a cure, or better treatment
I think MY opinion, is things should still stay closed for a bit longer, till all states start to show a decrease in things and not still climbing!
 

blkhwkbob

Active member
I live in Des Plaines and work in Skokie, il. Numbers 1 & 2 on the list of most cases in the NW Suburbs of Chicago. The minute Wisconsin opens up, I'm heading up to go fishing and I plan on touching everything I can get my hands on. Looking forward to seeing you all.
 

candyman

New member
I live in Des Plaines and work in Skokie, il. Numbers 1 & 2 on the list of most cases in the NW Suburbs of Chicago. The minute Wisconsin opens up, I'm heading up to go fishing and I plan on touching everything I can get my hands on. Looking forward to seeing you all.

Ooooo spicy!
 

xcr440

Well-known member
I live in Des Plaines and work in Skokie, il. Numbers 1 & 2 on the list of most cases in the NW Suburbs of Chicago. The minute Wisconsin opens up, I'm heading up to go fishing and I plan on touching everything I can get my hands on. Looking forward to seeing you all.

Don't get in too big of a hurry, you got another month to wait...… Unless you want to come to MN and go fishing, then have at it! I know the resorts up north would LOVE to have your business.

Here's a guide to our opener dates. https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/fishing/seasons.html
 
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jacinda

New member
Sad to hear, I don't know what to comment
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euphoric1

Well-known member
let's see how they react when taxes double....and it will to pay for all this

What??? Wait??? this money isn't free???? OH POOP!! We were already forewarned about what is likely going to happen to our unemployment insurance policy. I cant believe there are still those that think this is a good idea, blows my mind.
 

pclark

Well-known member
I said I wasn't going to comment anymore but I guess what the heck, one more can't hurt. I think we really started to hear about COVID-19 around March 1st in Wisconsin, I have traveled by air in the US every week in March and April and quite frankly would not not have if I really did not have to to keep the business moving forward, but a large deal depended on it. My only point here is do what you feel comfortable with, I took risks obviously, I did not wear a mask at all, I did wash my hands constantly, and I tried to conscious of staying healthy. I will be home next week and plan on a relaxing week in the place that I plan on retiring to, Manitowish Waters, and then it's back to work again but that what we do to keep our business moving in the direction we have to and want to.

It's not for everyone, but it's my choice. Isn't that what America is all about? Choice and Freedom to pretty much do as you please lawfully?

I'll certainly look back on this and say that I did what I had to do and don't regret it, at all.

Hopefully this all comes to an end real soon and we get back to what I like about our great country, mainly all the good people that live in the US.

Remember, because you live here and are citizens you have choices and don't let anybody take those away from you.
 
G

G

Guest
The average age of deaths from the coronavirus in MN is 85 as of Saturday. This is media driven insanity.
 

gary_in_neenah

Super Moderator
Staff member
I plan on retiring to, Manitowish Waters, and then it's back to work again

Remember, because you live here and are citizens you have choices and don't let anybody take those away from you.

You may choose to avoid traveling through Green Bay, Wisconsin.

(WFRV) Ever since Governor Tony Evers issued his Safer at Home directive closing non-essential businesses and asking people to stay home, Green Bay police have had a lot of reports of individuals ignoring his order.

“We have received hundreds of complaints in the police department about the violation of the order,” said Commander Kevin Warych.

But now, if the situation escalates and officers feel a need to take a stand, they have a new city ordinance on the books that imposes a large fine.

“Certainly hope we don’t have to use it and I’m sure the police would rather not have to use it,” said Alderman Randy Scannell.

This month Green Bay City Council adopted a state statute – concerning a violation of law relating to health – into the city’s ordinances. It gives police the power to issue a $376 citation to those ignoring the Safer at Home order.

“This is serious stuff. We need to obey this governor’s order,” Scannell said.

I'll let you guess the party that the Alderman belongs to AND he's also a proponent of legalized marijuana.

Not that there's anything wrong with that!!:rolleyes3:
 

saber1

Active member
Was this all worth it? probably not.The one thing that i was reminded of though that i learned long ago that wealth is not created by Bankers ,politicians,Corporations,Job creators or the Stock market but by the working man.If he isnt working then Nobody is making money the whole economy will collapse."Thats all i have to say about that"
 

snobuilder

Well-known member
You may choose to avoid traveling through Green Bay, Wisconsin.

(WFRV) Ever since Governor Tony Evers issued his Safer at Home directive closing non-essential businesses and asking people to stay home, Green Bay police have had a lot of reports of individuals ignoring his order.

“We have received hundreds of complaints in the police department about the violation of the order,” said Commander Kevin Warych.

But now, if the situation escalates and officers feel a need to take a stand, they have a new city ordinance on the books that imposes a large fine.

“Certainly hope we don’t have to use it and I’m sure the police would rather not have to use it,” said Alderman Randy Scannell.

This month Green Bay City Council adopted a state statute – concerning a violation of law relating to health – into the city’s ordinances. It gives police the power to issue a $376 citation to those ignoring the Safer at Home order.

“This is serious stuff. We need to obey this governor’s order,” Scannell said.

I'll let you guess the party that the Alderman belongs to AND he's also a proponent of legalized marijuana.

Not that there's anything wrong with that!!:rolleyes3:
When did the good ppl of GB hand over their liberties to THAT party?....Your mayor sounds like he was groomed in Madison or MKE.
 

buddah2

Member
I wasn't going to comment on this but a few of these got me going so here it is: MI is a huge state, land mass wise...just under 800 mi. from the MI/OH border by Toledo to the far NW tip of the U.P....so why in the H*LL do rural counties in the U.P. (such as ours), which have ZERO cases have to follow the same draconian "rules" as Detroit and the other epicenters of the infestation downstate? And the Wicked Witch (I was really tempted to use a B instead of a W) has mandated wearing of masks in public. Again, maybe that makes sense in high-density locales but a rural county with less than 10,000 residents total in 5,000+ sq miles?

So supposedly there's an exemption if you have a medical reason for not wearing one. I kind do in that with my cardiac issues anything that restricts breathing makes me subject to lightheadedness or even blackouts...then we'd have to get the lawyers involved and that's NEVER a good idea. So I will do just what I've done the whole time...use sanitizer (on the rare times when I can buy it), wash my hands frequently, and basically ignore the *itch !!!
 

euphoric1

Well-known member
Was this all worth it? probably not.The one thing that i was reminded of though that i learned long ago that wealth is not created by Bankers ,politicians,Corporations,Job creators or the Stock market but by the working man.If he isnt working then Nobody is making money the whole economy will collapse."Thats all i have to say about that"

True that! X2!
 

mrbb

Well-known member
I wasn't going to comment on this but a few of these got me going so here it is: MI is a huge state, land mass wise...just under 800 mi. from the MI/OH border by Toledo to the far NW tip of the U.P....so why in the H*LL do rural counties in the U.P. (such as ours), which have ZERO cases have to follow the same draconian "rules" as Detroit and the other epicenters of the infestation downstate? And the Wicked Witch (I was really tempted to use a B instead of a W) has mandated wearing of masks in public. Again, maybe that makes sense in high-density locales but a rural county with less than 10,000 residents total in 5,000+ sq miles?

So supposedly there's an exemption if you have a medical reason for not wearing one. I kind do in that with my cardiac issues anything that restricts breathing makes me subject to lightheadedness or even blackouts...then we'd have to get the lawyers involved and that's NEVER a good idea. So I will do just what I've done the whole time...use sanitizer (on the rare times when I can buy it), wash my hands frequently, and basically ignore the *itch !!!
here in PA< we has a must wear a mask deal in effect, but anyone that has medical reasons for not wearing one is exempt

ours reads like this
no lawyer would be needed, but would be more inconvenient on you however!, or less, pending how you see it, might save you time going in a store to try and find things?

ours reads this below!

The order requires businesses to deny entry to customers who do not wear masks, "unless the business is providing medication, medical supplies, or food, in which case the business must provide alternative methods of pick-up or delivery of such goods," Gov. Tom Wolf's office said


The order states anyone over the age of two must wear a mask, unless they have a medical condition that prevents it.

 
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