Green Bay (Brown County) now has more cases per-capita than Milwaukee County!!
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...us-how-cluster-covid-19-developed/3000721001/
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Was it worth it?
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Green Bay (Brown County) now has more cases per-capita than Milwaukee County!!
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...us-how-cluster-covid-19-developed/3000721001/
Go to the last sentence in the article.
Bear
Green Bay (Brown County) now has more cases per-capita than Milwaukee County!!
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...us-how-cluster-covid-19-developed/3000721001/
Go to the last sentence in the article.
Bear
One common blame I have seen again and again that I don't buy is the Hispanic community primarily does not speak English and may not have heard it, I don't buy that excuse for one minute, so their work place wasn't enforcing it? there has been nothing said on Hispanic networks about it? They just plain didn't know about the social distancing? sorry but don't buy it, if it is a language barrier then more reason why English should be our national language.
snobuilder
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Green Bay (Brown County) now has more cases per-capita than Milwaukee County!!
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...us-how-cluster-covid-19-developed/3000721001/
Go to the last sentence in the article.
Bear
Yea....because they had a job....LOL
but so what?....how many flu cases do they have....how many ppl with pending diabetes, pending heart conditions, colon issues....all not being examined.
We might ALL have c-19. That would be a good thing, not a bad thing.
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One common blame I have seen again and again that I don't buy is the Hispanic community primarily does not speak English and may not have heard it, I don't buy that excuse for one minute, so their work place wasn't enforcing it? there has been nothing said on Hispanic networks about it? They just plain didn't know about the social distancing? sorry but don't buy it, if it is a language barrier then more reason why English should be our national language.
We have a c-19 msg blurted out in english and also spanish alternately every 5 minutes or so @ HD....And I swear to gawd....everyone has stepped foot in THD over the past week....LOL
Green Bay (Brown County) now has more cases per-capita than Milwaukee County!!
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...us-how-cluster-covid-19-developed/3000721001/
Go to the last sentence in the article.
Bear
Talked to a Physician friend of mine today and was told the CDC is in Green Bay to see *** is really going on.
More testing sites to be added this week to see what infection rates really are.
Good news, Bear
A little off topic, but Michigan has recorded 3657 deaths due to the virus now, and Nationwide the number is over 57000. Both those numbers will be revised upwards, as it is now understood that the death rate was severely underreported, especially at the beginning of this virus mess.
For reference, there were only 2666 fatalities of Michigan service members in the Vietnam war over a twenty year period, and 58220 American fatalities in total over the same twenty year period.
The virus fatalities are over less than three months.
And yet people are crying about having to stay at home for a few weeks.
Entitled crybabies.
For reference, there were only 2666 fatalities of Michigan service members in the Vietnam war over a twenty year period, and 58220 American fatalities in total over the same twenty year period.
The virus fatalities are over less than three months.
And yet people are crying about having to stay at home for a few weeks.
Entitled crybabies.
And yet people are crying about having to stay at home for a few weeks.
Entitled crybabies.
WHAT? There’s people out there that have worked all their f-ing life’s to own a small business and are now on the verge of losing everything they own! So your saying these people are entitled cry babies? This did not start a few weeks ago for them, try March 17th and now the governors have pushed the lock down to the end of May. That’s 2 months of being shut down, now throw in the fear this has caused which will continue for months. How do I know? I’m one of them with a whole community in the same boat. Please think about what your posting here and look out of your little bubbles before you say things like this.
A little off topic, but Michigan has recorded 3657 deaths due to the virus now, and Nationwide the number is over 57000. Both those numbers will be revised upwards, as it is now understood that the death rate was severely underreported, especially at the beginning of this virus mess.
For reference, there were only 2666 fatalities of Michigan service members in the Vietnam war over a twenty year period, and 58220 American fatalities in total over the same twenty year period.
The virus fatalities are over less than three months.
And yet people are crying about having to stay at home for a few weeks.
Entitled crybabies.
And how may people die from the flu each year in Michigan? Do you want to start shutting down the country for that, too?
Vietnam is completely irrelevant to this conversation.
People are literally having their lives ruined over this. They are not being "entitled crybabies" for protesting that fact.
And the deaths are being overreported, not underreported.
Midwest Player
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Was it worth it? What value do you put on human life. I suppose as long as it is not you or your loved one it doesn't matter.
Compare Sweden with these other nearby countries and ask yourself again was it worth it.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/europe/sweden-coronavirus-lockdown-strategy-intl/index.html
Compare Sweden with these other nearby countries and ask yourself again was it worth it.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/europe/sweden-coronavirus-lockdown-strategy-intl/index.html
Was it worth it? What value do you put on human life. I suppose as long as it is not you or your loved one it doesn't matter.
Compare Sweden with these other nearby countries and ask yourself again was it worth it.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/europe/sweden-coronavirus-lockdown-strategy-intl/index.html
CNN really?? Come on man....
snobuilder
Well-known member
Was it worth it? What value do you put on human life. I suppose as long as it is not you or your loved one it doesn't matter.
Compare Sweden with these other nearby countries and ask yourself again was it worth it.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/europe/sweden-coronavirus-lockdown-strategy-intl/index.html
what is your solution?
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A little off topic, but Michigan has recorded 3657 deaths due to the virus now, and Nationwide the number is over 57000. Both those numbers will be revised upwards, as it is now understood that the death rate was severely underreported, especially at the beginning of this virus mess.
For reference, there were only 2666 fatalities of Michigan service members in the Vietnam war over a twenty year period, and 58220 American fatalities in total over the same twenty year period.
The virus fatalities are over less than three months.
And yet people are crying about having to stay at home for a few weeks.
Entitled crybabies.
What is your solution?
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actual confirmed first person treating physician reported deaths according to the CDC is under 19,000/US.
CNN really?? Come on man....
I thought the same thing, but I did read the entire article. If you believe what ‘they’ are reporting, it serves to provide a theory that this shut down was and is NOT the right move. Perhaps in the short run it appears to be something to allow unprepared medical facilities to get prepared - As it appears was needed in NY. But in the long run, it’s going to keep spreading through the unaffected community eventually. Kicking the can down the road....
So we have shuttered the economy for all this, that probably will continue now for months, or years. I can’t tell, am I still in the “Was it worth it?” thread? My answer is still a resounding NO.
Just a snippet from the article:
He said that he believed that stricter lockdowns "only serve to flatten the curve and flattening the curve doesn't mean that cases disappear -- they are just moved in time."
"And as long as the healthcare system reasonably can cope with and give good care to the ones that need care, it's not clear that having the cases later in time is better."
Guess we will find out with what we keep doing.....
snobuilder
Well-known member
I thought the same thing, but I did read the entire article. If you believe what ‘they’ are reporting, it serves to provide a theory that this shut down was and is NOT the right move. Perhaps in the short run it appears to be something to allow unprepared medical facilities to get prepared - As it appears was needed in NY. But in the long run, it’s going to keep spreading through the unaffected community eventually. Kicking the can down the road....
So we have shuttered the economy for all this, that probably will continue now for months, or years. I can’t tell, am I still in the “Was it worth it?” thread? My answer is still a resounding NO.
Just a snippet from the article:
He said that he believed that stricter lockdowns "only serve to flatten the curve and flattening the curve doesn't mean that cases disappear -- they are just moved in time."
"And as long as the healthcare system reasonably can cope with and give good care to the ones that need care, it's not clear that having the cases later in time is better."
Guess we will find out with what we keep doing.....
i said this over a month ago..."just another cold and flu season". Welcome aboard.
I believe the numbers are extremely exagerated, if I personally know of one case labeled covide that wasnt then there are probably thousands and thousands and thousands
They said 85% plus in new york had other condidtions, ***?
Sorry it takes the weak, but if in danger quarinteen yourself not the whole country
Im sure 100 people die a day in michigan anyway
my friends mom is dying as we speak, cancer, wonder what that will get labled, see in a week or two
They said 85% plus in new york had other condidtions, ***?
Sorry it takes the weak, but if in danger quarinteen yourself not the whole country
Im sure 100 people die a day in michigan anyway
my friends mom is dying as we speak, cancer, wonder what that will get labled, see in a week or two
Was it worth it? What value do you put on human life. I suppose as long as it is not you or your loved one it doesn't matter.
Compare Sweden with these other nearby countries and ask yourself again was it worth it.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/europe/sweden-coronavirus-lockdown-strategy-intl/index.html
Interesting post.
The Swedish approach with their population of 10.3 million people is about the same size as MN and WI combined, yet they now have a bit more cases of COVID but not as many deaths.
Based on this one article it is interesting, I wonder how their economy was affected?
Bear
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A little off topic, but Michigan has recorded 3657 deaths due to the virus now, and Nationwide the number is over 57000. Both those numbers will be revised upwards, as it is now understood that the death rate was severely underreported, especially at the beginning of this virus mess.
For reference, there were only 2666 fatalities of Michigan service members in the Vietnam war over a twenty year period, and 58220 American fatalities in total over the same twenty year period.
The virus fatalities are over less than three months.
And yet people are crying about having to stay at home for a few weeks.
Entitled crybabies.
I see this argument all the time, and it is completely flawed. As a country of about 330 million people, nearly each one of us has the chance of contracting COVID (some have a greater chance, obviously). We sent nowhere near 330 million people to fight in Nam (that number is somewhere in the 2-3 million range, depending on what variables you factor in). So obviously, the entire population did not risk being KIA in Nam. 52K out of 2-3 million is a much higher percentage than 57K out of 330 million.
And how many of those deaths weren't covid-19 related, but were marked as such, so the hospital could get that money?
Bingo.
This is happening everyday, and do we hear anything about it? Would a mask have helped this woman? NO - She was too afraid of Covid-19, so this is the end result (From a nurse I know):
Just got off the phone with the lady that had a painful open sore on her foot and was too afraid to go to see MD because of Covid. End result was having all 5 toes and part of her foot amputated because of bone infection. So sad
Was it worth it?
Just got off the phone with the lady that had a painful open sore on her foot and was too afraid to go to see MD because of Covid. End result was having all 5 toes and part of her foot amputated because of bone infection. So sad
Was it worth it?
no mask will fix stupid, nor will trying to blame this stay at home for this eitherThis is happening everyday, and do we hear anything about it? Would a mask have helped this woman? NO - She was too afraid of Covid-19, so this is the end result (From a nurse I know):
Just got off the phone with the lady that had a painful open sore on her foot and was too afraid to go to see MD because of Covid. End result was having all 5 toes and part of her foot amputated because of bone infection. So sad
Was it worth it?
sounds to me like this person made a choice, and paid the price for it!
there is a reason we have DR's and hospitals, I think most folks know when they should go in to one! and if they don't
its again, NOT any virus or that is at fault! but that persons lack of taking care of themselves and poor judgment/decision making !
as a FACT, I have known a few folks that had like issues, without there ever being a stay at home order in effect and or some virus going around
an OLD farmer lady I help maintain her home and property(her husband passed away)
she had Laser eye surgery
was TOLD to put drops in every few hours, she refused as she didn;t like eye drops so never did any
her eye got infected, we all told her she needed to got o DR/ ER,
she refused
as didn;t like DR's or hospitals, feared them places as she said sick people are in them! and that's where people go to DIE!
a few days later she had to have her eye removed when we more or less forced her to go!
SO< what it worth it??
see, when you MAKE dumb decisions on YOUR health! no need to ask if its worth it, or trying to blame a situation or virus!
adults can be just as dumb and stubborn as anyone!
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She might well have been concerned, weighing the pros & cons in the present environment, but it certainly would have been better if she at least had the good sense to consult with her (or any!) doc (by phone/telemedicine) about the pros & cons, so as to make an informed decision.… Just got off the phone with the lady that had a painful open sore on her foot and was too afraid to go to see MD because of Covid. End result was having all 5 toes and part of her foot amputated because of bone infection. …
From an old nursery rhyme and proverb, dating back to the 14th century:… an OLD farmer lady I help maintain her home and property (her husband passed away)
she had Laser eye surgery
was TOLD to put drops in every few hours, she refused as she didn;t like eye drops so never did any
her eye got infected, we all told her she needed to got o DR/ ER,
she refused
as didn;t like DR's or hospitals, feared them places as she said sick people are in them! and that's where people go to DIE!
a few days later she had to have her eye removed when we more or less forced her to go! …
For want of a drop an eye was lost.For Want of a Nail
For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the message was lost.
For want of a message the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.