What happened to winter....ANSWER

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Tracker

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Hey thanks fellas....was out of commish for 7 months...doc said he not gonna fix neck too many wires and I can move with no pain so Murphy's law on that one...new spine installed...lol....hit 95mph on trail and even did a tad of off trail at xmas....I have film I will put on...yes I used 7 of my nine lives...lol....sled embedded into opposite bank so hard that only 4 inches of window was visible above ground....hit it hard....rag dolled into field for 2 blocks .....knocked both boots off helmet gloves you name it...looked like b52 bomber wreck strewn about a wide field of debris....and damageinc...no conspiracy theory at all...only science and facts my man....there's way more to it than I wrote along with a 30,000 year ice age and other oscillations....its very evident now to almost anyone if you look at it scientific and those links...not trying to force my views on anyone rather maybe a better understanding is all of recent events and patterns....space weather very much effects the ionosphere and our weather patterns and it is not fully understood yet....but the magnetosphere rotation effects climate here on earth without a doubt....it is only rotated from where it's been and what we are used to....causing more rain and warmer weather and earthquake and tectonic plate movement which in turn due to mountain peaks rotating so does the wind and jet stream get altered to new paths....understanding this along with the stories in all the bibles and books of various religions can help us all learn of future events...I'm not that religious but the flood stories are true and it was due to one of the geomagnetic reversal that happened long ago and they tried to explain it all with limited knowledge of space and magnetism and its effects....the short version....but whatever view you take of all this is fine....we need to take a fresh look at all this again is all it's about and maybe this time with more people involved we can find an actual answer instead of relying on faith that might be incorrect....hope that helps....someone might have a piece of the puzzle that is missing

But enough of all that....get your sled ready it will snow alot more soon is the short answer....I am getting ready myself for the next trip....I will upload some youtube films to enjoy soon....no sign of samsquatch yet either....lol...but looking still for that money shot...its an adventure....that's what life is all about.....ADVENTURE....peace out all
 
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Tracker said:
...only science and facts my man
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You claimed that winter had shifted by two months because of the magnetic pole shift. That's not scientific and certainly not a fact. The seasons are controlled by the amount of daylight reaching earth. For the seasons to have a significant shift, earth would have to shift on it's axis by a large amount, which has not happened. If it did happen, it would lengthen or shorten the seasons by roughly the same amount on both ends of winter, not add or subtract all of it at the beginning or the end of winter. You don't seem to understand the difference between earth's axis and the magnetic poles. Earth is still spinning at the same angle (other than slight shifts that occur through Milankovitch cycles), and only the magnetic poles are shifting. That does not shift the seasons, period. Also, October and November were far below average temps here, which is the exact opposite of what you are claiming.

Good luck with your recovery.
 
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The tilt is currently decreasing as well this is why and your correct in tilt effects seasons....but your missing the fact that it is currently decreasing at a fast clip along with the reversal

https://youtu.be/51usJ74pPP8

At an obliquity of 0 degrees, the two axes point in the same direction; i.e., the rotational axis is perpendicular to the orbital plane. Earth's obliquity oscillates between 22.1 and 24.5 degrees on a 41,000-year cycle; Earth's mean obliquity is currently 23°26′12.0″ (or 23.43668°) and decreasing. A decrease exaggerates seasons....so what I am saying is it will seem like its 2 months different from what we are used to...feb will seem like dec weather and so on....does that help you understand it better now

Slim we are just having a conversation for God's sake....try not to b an azzhat like snow bob the builder....lol
 
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slimcake

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Hey pal don't be bringing me into this conversation!! I was trying to stick up for you! I was just glad to have you back! Entertainment and information..... Why I watch TV!!
 
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old abe

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I also took slimcake to being good to you, not tearing you down Tracker? Easy there now, it's all good!
 
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DamageInc

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Tracker said:
The tilt is currently decreasing as well this is why and your correct in tilt effects seasons....but your missing the fact that it is currently decreasing at a fast clip along with the reversal

https://youtu.be/51usJ74pPP8

At an obliquity of 0 degrees, the two axes point in the same direction; i.e., the rotational axis is perpendicular to the orbital plane. Earth's obliquity oscillates between 22.1 and 24.5 degrees on a 41,000-year cycle; Earth's mean obliquity is currently 23°26′12.0″ (or 23.43668°) and decreasing. A decrease exaggerates seasons....so what I am saying is it will seem like its 2 months different from what we are used to...feb will seem like dec weather and so on....does that help you understand it better now

Slim we are just having a conversation for God's sake....try not to b an azzhat like snow bob the builder....lol
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Yes, it oscillates 2.4° on a 41,000 year cycle, or around 525 average lifetimes. It's very gradual, and it happens far too slowly for you to see a significant change in our lifetime. It doesn't suddenly jump enough for you to notice a change in the length of seasons.
 
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Hey I am sorry slim...snow bob....abe....I apple o gize...seriously....I was gonna be a nicer gentler me....so I am sorry for that...I get a tad testy due to pain I think...short temper lately....let's start over shall we
 
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DamageInc said:
Yes, it oscillates 2.4° on a 41,000 year cycle, or around 525 average lifetimes. It's very gradual, and it happens far too slowly for you to see a significant change in our lifetime. It doesn't suddenly jump enough for you to notice a change in the length of seasons.
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It has though and it is visible....that's why your seeing rain now in winter....and when winter is supposed to be ending you will see it as it should be in February....just like the title of this thread...how many of youse guys see what I talking about...just curious...I for one can tell that the seasons are out of whack these last couple of years...and damage...did you watch the film and see how far it has moved in only 6 months...you say we won't see it in our lifetime....only we ARE seeing it and seeing 100 years of movement in only 6 months...that's just the mag field...the earths axis has shifted an entire tenth...that's huge...so what your telling me is you see nothing out of the norm...and it being 35 in chicago for all of dec Jan and feb is nothing out of the ordinary.....???....strange if you cannot see all this physically....cause I certainly have

Again...watch this and tell me that has not moved a crap ton in a short time....its so obvious

https://youtu.be/g26pW-oIE9c
 
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It's been moving at 34 miles per year....towards siberia...which moves our snow line northward....which brings warm rain odd temps and wild winds north of Ohio river in winter....which is should not be doing....that's huge movement
 
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Again, you don't seem to understand the difference between earth's axis (geographic poles) and the magnetic poles. They are not the same, and the shift of the magnetic pole does not mean the earth's axis has shifted enough to change the length of winter by 2 or 4 months. If the geographic poles shift, it changes the amount of daylight and it does change length of seasons, but that changes very slowly, not enough for you to notice in your lifetime. The magnetic poles do not change the length of seasons when they shift!

It's warm in winter because of natural variation, things like solar cycles, Arctic Oscillation, and ENSO, and because we are still exiting the last glacial period, not because of the magnetic pole shift. People need to get the crazy idea out of their heads that their childhood winters were "normal" or a baseline for what winter in the upper Midwest should be like. Those were colder and snowier than average. Read this for a better perspective: https://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/html/stories/1996/dec96/weather.htm
 
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The magnetic north pole was in the same geographical location for many years. Now it has all of a sudden started moving like Tracker says. What that means I have no idea. But I am pretty sure man had nothing to do with it. Our local forecast is calling for colder temps for the rest of Feb into March. Mostly because the Polar Vortex is breaking up and letting the cold air from the north come down to us. The Great Lakes have below normal ice coverage. The Groundhog predicts an early spring. There is a drought in AZ. The Iranians still can't get a satellite into orbit. Just stuff to talk about. None of us can do jack about any of it. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
 
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grub said:
The magnetic north pole was in the same geographical location for many years. Now it has all of a sudden started moving like Tracker says. What that means I have no idea. But I am pretty sure man had nothing to do with it. Our local forecast is calling for colder temps for the rest of Feb into March. Mostly because the Polar Vortex is breaking up and letting the cold air from the north come down to us. The Great Lakes have below normal ice coverage. The Groundhog predicts an early spring. There is a drought in AZ. The Iranians still can't get a satellite into orbit. Just stuff to talk about. None of us can do jack about any of it. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
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Pretty much says it all! X2!
 
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grub said:
The magnetic north pole was in the same geographical location for many years. Now it has all of a sudden started moving like Tracker says. What that means I have no idea. But I am pretty sure man had nothing to do with it.
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If the poles are beginning to flip (which would weaken our magnetic shield during the reversal), we could see increased problems with electronics and satellites during solar flares. Animals that migrate using Earth's polarity could have some serious issues. Compasses won't work right for a long time. But it's not going to change Earth's axial tilt and effect our seasons. Humanity has a lot of bigger problems to worry about than a flip. But I wouldn't bother buying a new compass anytime soon. :)
 
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old abe

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Okay, nothing we can do about any of this? That be a NO, we can't! If ya got snow, ride it! Or else, chase it as many of us have been doing for some time now already! Be safe.
 
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Ok your clearly not understanding it....here's the deal

The Sun plays a large role in providing the Earth with light and heat, but its more subtle effects on the Earth's weather, climate and atmospheric processes are still a mystery. Scientists are especially puzzled by how the solar wind—streams of plasma ejected from the Sun—affects the Earth's climate system

Scientists are puzzled....only tracker ain't puzzled....the solar winds effect our climate...pure and simple....and to think it doesn't effect it is idiotic....I'll leave it at that....that link you posted is from 1996....new science says otherwise....study o grasshopper

https://eos.org/research-spotlights/solar-wind-may-affect-weather-climate

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DamageInc said:
If the poles are beginning to flip (which would weaken our magnetic shield during the reversal), we could see increased problems with electronics and satellites during solar flares. Animals that migrate using Earth's polarity could have some serious issues. Compasses won't work right for a long time. But it's not going to change Earth's axial tilt and effect our seasons. Humanity has a lot of bigger problems to worry about than a flip. But I wouldn't bother buying a new compass anytime soon. :)
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It does effect it....google palm trees under the ice....the poles are flipping like grub says and I do too...and where it's cold will become tropical...how's that not effecting the climate if palm trees start to grow in the arctic????

Antarctica once covered in palm trees, scientists discover

https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-08-02/palm-trees-once-covered-antarctica-says-new-study
 
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