Yamaha Brand Identification

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lenny

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Why yes I can! My brother in law is riding my 01 XCSP with 18,800 trouble free miles on it (3 tracks due to under studding pull threws). My kids old 98 440 fan cooled two up has 23,000 miles on it. one voltage regulator. My old 06 Renegade with over 10,000 miles on it with one relay replaced and a new battery. My daughters 99 340 poo with 12,300 miles on it. Hyfax and skis's from riding it in the summer also. The three Polaris sleds combined cost about what you paid for one sled. I have absolutely nothing against Yamaha other then they weigh to much, cost to much, suspensions are known to be less comfy then other makes, and There 4 strokes are percieved as geriatric sleds by many. Would I trail ride one, sure as long as it isn't lime green or road construction orange. I do like the no oil expense and reliability they offer. Keep in mind Yamaha is not a magician. My Briggs and Stratton in my 1985 Wheel horse Garden tractor has millions of miles on it, along with the miles on my Tecumseh push mower. 4 strokes are not new technology. Call me when your 4 stroker has the mileage of most my fleet trucks that are beat daily, many with 248,000 miles plus on those Chevy 350's.

Know keep in mind, my Polaris is purpose built. I can follow you anywhere you take your sled, can you do the same with your sled following me?

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Looks like nobody is working today! When (if) she blows, Lenny will get a certified letter from me. I do like the looks of the blue Yamicat.

this proves it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc59CwvyUn0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rnvc8UHGJV8
 

polarisrider1

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All kidding aside, I do have some Yami questions. Lenny, I do need a battery for the Pro electric start this year. But still can pull the rope. My only real question concerning me with the 4 strokers is, "What do you do if the battery dies while at a trail side pit stop out a hundred miles from civilization and no one else has electric start to jump off from? do you guys carry jumper cables?" "Are the batteries heavier duty then what the 2 strokers get."

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This one is better www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1f0YNYDWR4
 

whitedust

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All kidding aside, I do have some Yami questions. Lenny, I do need a battery for the Pro electric start this year. But still can pull the rope. My only real question concerning me with the 4 strokers is, "What do you do if the battery dies while at a trail side pit stop out a hundred miles from civilization and no one else has electric start to jump off from? do you guys carry jumper cables?" "Are the batteries heavier duty then what the 2 strokers get."

Never had that problem but Yes Yam makes packaged jumper cables about the size of you hand & jumper leads right by oil tank. I charge my battery off those leads but never needed a jump but very easy to do if you had too.
 

Attak man

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All kidding aside, I do have some Yami questions. Lenny, I do need a battery for the Pro electric start this year. But still can pull the rope. My only real question concerning me with the 4 strokers is, "What do you do if the battery dies while at a trail side pit stop out a hundred miles from civilization and no one else has electric start to jump off from? do you guys carry jumper cables?" "Are the batteries heavier duty then what the 2 strokers get."

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This one is better www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1f0YNYDWR4

I had a very expensive battery (gel) in mine...put in by previous owner..in 3 seasons..it never failed...started in 25 below zero...no problem...but yeah...you can jump these like a car if the battery does die...and no..I never carried battery jumps in the sled.
 
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lenny

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All kidding aside, I do have some Yami questions. Lenny, I do need a battery for the Pro electric start this year. But still can pull the rope. My only real question concerning me with the 4 strokers is, "What do you do if the battery dies while at a trail side pit stop out a hundred miles from civilization and no one else has electric start to jump off from? do you guys carry jumper cables?" "Are the batteries heavier duty then what the 2 strokers get."

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This one is better www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1f0YNYDWR4

if no one else has electric start and a battery your outta luck. You pick the big pig up and hump it out of the woods. Seriously, you do need to consider that as a potential problem. Check the battery after a few years with load test or hydrometer. It's like car though, they usually fail on a cold start. Mine just failed this year and when I got it out of storage it was dead
 

polarisrider1

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Never had that problem but Yes Yam makes packaged jumper cables about the size of you hand & jumper leads right by oil tank. I charge my battery off those leads but never needed a jump but very easy to do if you had too.

Thank you. was always wondering that. since batteries are made by a third party and are usually neglected during the summer. I have ran out of gas and walked a few times in the dark with the 06 Renegade I had (crap gas gauge).

"What do you do if your the only one with a battery in the group?" I think this is a legit question.
 

polarisrider1

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Posts overlapped. Thank you Lenny. Geeze, I am horrible when it comes to battery maintaince. (did I spell that right?)

I wonder if Optima makes sled batteries. Dealer bent me good on a battery that made it one season last year. Might be just the same running to the grocery store and picking up a Yasu?
 

whitedust

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Thank you. was always wondering that. since batteries are made by a third party and are usually neglected during the summer. I have ran out of gas and walked a few times in the dark with the 06 Renegade I had (crap gas gauge).

"What do you do if your the only one with a battery in the group?" I think this is a legit question.

If I knew I would be in that situation I would carry a power monkey or start monkey in back woods if on trail always someone will come along ES standard on most trail sleds. I worried about this coming from 2s but maybe 4s battery is better as I only trickle charge in Nov then just ride the entire season never had a problem in 7 seasons.
 
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Can you rap I rope around the clutch on a 4stroke like you can a 2 stroke or just to much compression?

No way, won't work on a 4 stroke. When I had an FST, the battery was a different battery than you would use on a 2 stroke. Much longer life IMO. What happens more often is when it's really cold, they don't want to turn over and you end up with a heater or hair dryer under the hood to get them going.

Since the Yamaha is the best sled for the money per an opinion on here, I have to assume their market share is growing by leaps and bounds. Anyone know for sure?
 

anonomoose

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Yes you can take a leather belt and wrap it around and give it a pull, as some start easily. However, I think as I recall, that the Yamaha needs a full 12 volts to the system for ignition to ignite. So a jump is required to achieve that. At least it did on my old RX1 Mountain.

Gell batteries are better and last longer...but how hard is it to pull batteries and trickle them on and off in summer?
 
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lenny

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No way, won't work on a 4 stroke. When I had an FST, the battery was a different battery than you would use on a 2 stroke. Much longer life IMO. What happens more often is when it's really cold, they don't want to turn over and you end up with a heater or hair dryer under the hood to get them going.

Since the Yamaha is the best sled for the money per an opinion on here, I have to assume their market share is growing by leaps and bounds. Anyone know for sure?

I don't think it is accurate to say that the best of anything is always on top when it comes to sales. I think any of the 4 manufactures can produce a good 4 stroke and this I am certain of. Yamaha is good but the history of 4 stroke motors is old tech and Yamaha has always built great motors along with Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki. Yamaha has a smaller market interest for enthusiasts and rightfully so. My opinion is that as a rider gets a little older and less desire for aggressive riding we start to enter the cruising stage of our life and that is where a good solid 4s comes into the pic. Some people never ride like ricky rocket and a 4s will work but on average younger riders like snappy light weight machines and in that case Yamaha is not the right fit. Yamaha has the narrowest variety, IMO, of sleds because they have no 2s which people still like and I believe prefer to be matched to a lighter chassis. There is no way a guy can have as much fun with a yamapig 4s in the deep, it's just not realistic but some of us are slow learners like myself. With longtrack gaining huge momentum in sales, Yamaha will suffer (and has suffered) in this market but it is their decision and you gotta respect a manufacturer to not attempt to compete for top dog because it's their call, remember, they make motorcycles, gold carts, boats, generators, guitars, pianos, etc,,,,,,,,

I can tell you one thing, Yamaha does build a very reliable, long lasting machine that very seldom needs to be towed off the trail and that suits me just fine. Do you know that for sure with a 2s, no matter who makes it?
 
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