WI Trail Funding Poll

What should be done to get more money into the trail system in WI?

  • Try to get the CAP/STEP Program passed again

    Votes: 48 32.7%
  • Raise the registration fee for ALL WI residents

    Votes: 33 22.4%
  • Create a required trail sticker for anyone who rides in WI

    Votes: 54 36.7%
  • Other... (Please send me a PM or post your ideas)

    Votes: 12 8.2%

  • Total voters
    147

nytro_rtx

Active member
Whats the price diference between buying a resident registration and how long they last for and the cost of buying a non-resident trail pass? Do residents still have to have a trail pass also like Michigan?




I have never rode my sleds in Il. but I still register them here, also buy Mich.(both sleds) & Wi. trail pass(on my trail sled) every year and proly haven't put on 100 miles in Wi. over the last 2 yrs, but still buy in case I do. Sorry but I do think thats screwing the system if you're not a resident in Wi. and register it that way no matter where you pay the tax and why would you not pay the Il. sales tax and register it where you live?

I live in Illinois, register in Wisconsin and buy Michigan trail stickers for all my sleds whether I ride there or not. I also pay sales tax to Wisconsin for any sled purchased that is registered there as many other folks also do. I don't believe that is "screwing the system"
 

Banjo Man

New member
I keep my sleds in Wisconsin year round and they never even see Illinois so that is why I register in
Wisconsin. Since I do my majority of riding there it makes sense to me to pay for the registration
Stickers and the sales tax on the sleds.
At 5% state and 1/2% county tax on each sled is considerable more revenue for the state I ride in than if I were to purchase a trail pass. Do the math.
 

nytro_rtx

Active member
Also saves atleast 1% sales tax for ya too.

I never ride mine in Il. either and don't know if I can do a resident reg. in Mi. even tho I own a house there, but wouldn't realy matter for me because you have to get a trail pass in Mi. anyway.

How much is the Wi. reg. vrs. the trail pass? How long is the reg. good for(3yrs?), he!! if saves that much $$ maybe I'll do the same thing!!!
 

Banjo Man

New member
Also saves atleast 1% sales tax for ya too.

I never ride mine in Il. either and don't know if I can do a resident reg. in Mi. even tho I own a house there, but wouldn't realy matter for me because you have to get a trail pass in Mi. anyway.

How much is the Wi. reg. vrs. the trail pass? How long is the reg. good for(3yrs?), he!! if saves

that much $$ maybe I'll do the same thing!!!


Sounds like we are starting to agree lol.
 

blu2u2

New member
The non-resident trail pass is $35 and good for only 1 season. The WI reg is $30 and good for 2 seasons. The $30 is the only fee that has to be paid to ride in WI if the sled is reg. in WI. The $15/year is a BARGAIN vs. MI and MN rates.

Thanks for the 9 more votes since I last posted. I appreciate everyone who voted or shared their views on this topic!
 
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nytro_rtx

Active member
Banjo, Yes we are!! lol If you ever get up to the W-UP or close to the border let me know and we'll hook up for a ride!! :)

Sounds like we are starting to agree lol.

blu, Thanks for the info., that is a bargain and I might change the way I register my sled. But how do I register in Wi. without a street addy there to register to?

The non-resident trail pass is $35 and good for only 1 season. The WI reg is $30 and good for 2 seasons. The $30 is the only fee that has to be paid to ride in WI if the sled is reg. in WI. The $15/year is a BARGAIN vs. MI and MN rates.

Thanks for the 9 more votes since I last posted. I appreciate everyone who voted or shared their views on this topic!
 
Banjo, Yes we are!! lol If you ever get up to the W-UP or close to the border let me know and we'll hook up for a ride!! :)



blu, Thanks for the info., that is a bargain and I might change the way I register my sled. But how do I register in Wi. without a street addy there to register to?
You can register it by going to the DNR website if you wish,,and no Wis adress needed.And my understanding is that more of the money from registration goes to where it needs to be and more of the money from out of state trail permits goes to the general fund so in turn it is a win win situation all the way around to register them rather than buy the trail permit.
 

snoduke88

Member
I live in Il and register my sleds in Wis, Il,and Ia. I bought one sled in Wis so I payed sale tax on it. I support a club in Wis, one in Il and one in Ia.
When I get up to Wis. I put at least $100 in trail pig. We stay for two weeks so I think I save at least that much in gas. Money in trail pigs goes right to club not thru state!!!
 

nytro_rtx

Active member
Thanks for the info snowfreak!!! Looks like I will get Wi. reg. as soon as my current reg. expires!!!

You can register it by going to the DNR website if you wish,,and no Wis adress needed.And my understanding is that more of the money from registration goes to where it needs to be and more of the money from out of state trail permits goes to the general fund so in turn it is a win win situation all the way around to register them rather than buy the trail permit.
 

Banjo Man

New member
Nytro, thanks for the offer to ride. I'm up in Boulder Junction at least for times during the season.
Maybe we could get Whitedust to pay for the cold ones afterwards since he has all our money lol.
 

whitedust

Well-known member
Nytro, thanks for the offer to ride. I'm up in Boulder Junction at least for times during the season.
Maybe we could get Whitedust to pay for the cold ones afterwards since he has all our money lol.

Huh? Not clear on this but happy to ride & buy cold ones for Jders. :)
 

blu2u2

New member
Maybe having this thread in the Misc. section will get more votes??? Thanks again for everyone who has already voted and to John for having this wonderful site!
 

switchback6

New member
I realize I am late to this discussion but here is my take with a little explanation. I am 30 yrs old been a active member in one club for 10+ yrs and another for 5yrs. Yes two clubs. I am involved in the county assoc. as map chairman and maintain,manage,operate one groomer of three we own. By profession I am a mechanic and know equipment. With that said how are we suposed to get ahead and have a better trail system for all to enjoy with equipment that is 15plus years old and recieving $50.00/hr to groom trails. I have been dedicated to running my groomer as hard as allows as much as possible and still have a hard time overcoming rising expenses, and have a hard time grooming at $25.00/hr which has been the amount supplimental has paid back at in the past. We have two unfunded trails that have been rejected from getting funded as they are not reroutes and are new trails. I realize this is a long drawn out problem with many difficult answers but we need to get to the bottom of it. How? I believe the cap/step is a good start but dont think it will fix all forever. Raising registration may be better in the long run but I hate raising taxes/fees! But I look at sleds,do we pay more for them than we used to? I hate shelling out $45.00 to ride the UP but I feel it is worth the cost for the riding that is available. I also think better management of funds will be the best but how is that possible with government? In the end I dont know that I have fixed anything but at least expressed my opinions and want to say that snowmobiling has gotten expensive but I enjoy the heck out of it, and realize we have some of the nicest trails in the midwest and dont want to lose them.
 

blu2u2

New member
Switchback6, thanks for 10+ years that you have dedicated to helping make snowmobiling in WI better. It is also nice to see some younger blood be active. I appreciated your input and agree with your thoughts.
 

blu2u2

New member
With the AWSC having the Winter Directors Meeting this weekend it would be nice to have more input/VOTES.

WI has more registered sleds and trails than any other state but still has shortage of funds!!! With many counties finally being able to open this season it will likely be another year that many clubs are able to get supplement funding even though it usually is only 50 to 80 % of what the clubs are incurring in cost.

If you have voted already thanks... if you have not done so please vote.
 

jr37

Well-known member
With the AWSC Convention coming up, and the fact that the AWSC wants to try the CAP/STEP again, let's try to get a few more replies for blu2u2 to take back to the Directors meeting.

If you are viewing this thread, please reply to the poll.
 

blu2u2

New member
blue = "red"

Here is a picture of the current (2-9-13) WI Counties that are open. Looks like all but 3-4 are open! This is a good thing except all the blue will equal "red" for the clubs since there is a limited amount of money for the trails. If history repeats itself most clubs will only get about 60 P1020997.jpg % of their trail expenses reimbursed.
 

renegade

Active member
Exactly! And no money for new trails, culverts, bridges, etc. It is way past time for a Wisconsin increase in registration stickers, but all you will get is complaints from people that don't understand, is its to expensive! This last fall I was trying to get some younger snowmobilers to the club meetings so I sent them invites via facebook, and one actually asked what the club does for the community and snowmobilers. I think this is the biggest problem we have is the majority of snowmobilers don't understand how the trail system works, who puts in the trails, and especially how the money works. There should be a letter in every registration sticker envelope explaining how the system works.
 
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