snobuilder
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Best dealer in my area will only take 300 off of MSRP on a spring check.
Here's the New 2017 Ski Doo's
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Cirrus_Driver
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Yeah - and there is a conclusion to be drawn from that. They have you, and they know it - you're dealing from a position of weakness. I snow checked one time, about 20 years ago.
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that is week call around only 300of msrp . best be tossing down a 5yr bumper to bumper for that$ heck any major new modification best be coming with a 5yr .
snobuilder
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was it my stutterin with excitement that tipped them off?
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lenny
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just curious, how much money do you think your dealer made in your new 850 sled?
skidoolouie
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No need to ask how much dealer made, we know its about 100.00. Its all about the units that get moved.
snobuilder
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Unless you are the owner or bookkeeper all is just website speculation.
Dealer will tell you they are not making money at X amount and then 3 months later in mid season,your same sled can be had for X-$2000. I would speculate that MSRP represents build cost +100% cushion. Maybe the dealer sees little of that cushion but that all falls on the manufacturer.
From what I have seen the dealerships are happy to have an opportunity to get a hold of the deeply rebated and discounted sleds mid season and move them for the sled maker. ...At least the one I dealt with is because there website inventory was constantly changing these past 2 seasons.
Dealer will tell you they are not making money at X amount and then 3 months later in mid season,your same sled can be had for X-$2000. I would speculate that MSRP represents build cost +100% cushion. Maybe the dealer sees little of that cushion but that all falls on the manufacturer.
From what I have seen the dealerships are happy to have an opportunity to get a hold of the deeply rebated and discounted sleds mid season and move them for the sled maker. ...At least the one I dealt with is because there website inventory was constantly changing these past 2 seasons.
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Should be able to get about $1,000 off MSRP (give or take a few hundred) off a 2017 850 plus another $250 off if you decline the fourth year warranty and settle for three years. That is with no shenanigan set up fees etc. If the sled is $12,699, you should be able to buy for $12,699 minus the $1,000 minus the $250 for declining the 4th year warranty for a total of $11,449 plus tax and registration (no set up fees period).
If you cant get that deal, keep looking and NEVER buy from that Dealer again!
Bear
snobuilder
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Name the dealerships with such an offer.
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lenny
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do you guys buy at lowest dollar amount and switch dealer time to time or stick with same dealer and pay fair amount. Does you guys use same dealer for service?
snobuilder
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What does it matter? Either a dealership understands customer service or they don't. To me customer service starts as a great selling price. As has been shown with the deep discounts this year, MSRP and so called "invoice" is a joke. The mannies need to get real and treat their dealerships right.
sell the snow check at a good price and the guy is more than likely to spend a boatload on the acc stuff with real margins when he picks it up.
I am no fan of my local doo dealer but when I got my trail sled last yr I asked them to match price from dealer 2 towns over and they did not even have to include the ext warranty. they said no so I walked . well come spring they were trying to sell for 1 grand less than my offer and still sitting on them this yr.
I drive the extra 40 min for service cuz the local is known to stand by the oem over consumer.
what kind of holdbacks is doo giving to dealers on snow check ? have to be pretty good
I am no fan of my local doo dealer but when I got my trail sled last yr I asked them to match price from dealer 2 towns over and they did not even have to include the ext warranty. they said no so I walked . well come spring they were trying to sell for 1 grand less than my offer and still sitting on them this yr.
I drive the extra 40 min for service cuz the local is known to stand by the oem over consumer.
what kind of holdbacks is doo giving to dealers on snow check ? have to be pretty good
srt20
Active member
Lowest possible price. They don't go back for service.
I filled out the "interested for a Dealer call-back" on the Ski-Doo website and the local Dealer in Appleton near the Fox River Mall called me back with a price.
Based on my past purchases there, they usually have 1-$200 left to negotiate once they give a price (10k+ sled, bike, UTV etc.).
Excellent fellas too for service if you buy there.
Bear
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I buy at lowest I can find by;
-Research
-Let favorite Dealer know what that price is
-We discuss if it is legit or if games are played with set up fees etc. to determine "real" price.
-We set a price and I buy if it is close.
I have bought from same Dealer since 2004 (multiple units many of the years) but we have had our moments of price disagreement. During the year of disagreement of more than a hundred of so I did buy from a different Dealer but always give him a shot at matching what I find.
I do use the same Dealer for service though (if there is any needed as I buy new annually and only put on 1,500 miles). Sleds have been dependable since 2004 (blew up a 800 Rev with 300 miles in 2004) He was awesome for that experience and I must admit that created loyalty too.
I must buy the cheapest I can as depreciation can kill my habit with annual new purchases. When it all shakes out, I might save an extra $300 a year by researching.
Bear
snobuilder
Well-known member
Thanks for the info.
Etec's require rebuilds and piston replacements. I wouldn't ride one if it was given to me. All the guys I ride with have had burn downs . They still buy them and I'm not sure why. Is the fuel economy and oil economy worth rebuilds after 3-5,000 miles? I think not. Now a two piece crank, lol
skidoolouie
Member
Etec require rebuilds?
wake up,,,
i ride an etec and so do ten of my riding partners and none of us has had a blow up except one guy who had 8000 plus miles on it and he lost the top end to it.
I had 7500 miles on the last one and only put gas and oil in it.
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800etec
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i have 5500 miles on my 800 etec,nothing but gas and oil here too.........