At Wide Open Wisconsin Show I purchased a set of C&A Pro skis, with the 1" gunnel running the length of ski and I call them fins near the outside of skis, how much carbide are guys running on these skis? I am coming from using sno-trackers 8" aggressive, I have a 137 and do not use traction products of any sort and do not plan on any either. I went with C&A hoping thew will help in the loose lake effect snows I seem to get caught in when I ride in the eastern U.P. the last few years. Talking not only to the people at the C&A booth and the Stud Boy booth they recommended no more than 6". Just curious if anyone runs these skis and what they are using? with the 1" gunnel and I'm not sure if sno-trackers even make runners for this ski anyways, I will not be using them anymore.
What carbides on C&A skis?
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Dirty70Firebird
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in my opinion, I would not use shaper bars. The host bar is made of a very soft metal, once you chip the leading carbide from a rock or something, the individual sections of carbide will be gone in extremely short order, and the host bar is all that is left. The host bar will wear away within a few turns, as it seams. A few friends have ruined a nice pair of skis due to this. I like the good and ugly from Bergstrom, not as expensive as the triple points, but uses the same single carbide.
Scott, 6" is exactly what the studboy and C&A guys said, they did not point out any specific bar but that length was common between them both.
Dirty70Firebird: , interesting about host bar, I have freinds that have burnt through skis because of what you said, is it because of how many cuts they make into the bar making host bar shorter lived? I will also look at the "good and ugly" I'm coming from years of doolys and sno-trackers but dont see a need for either on the C&A
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Some of the Cats came with the Pro XPT skis outfitted with dual carbides. I was a little surprised but I'm going to leave those on to start out the season.
With some lesser skis the carbides almost need more bite to overcome the lack of ski bottom contours. The Pro XPT skis have a little deeper keel than stock and side runners so I'll see how the dual setup works.
@euphoric1 , It sounds like you have a more aggressive version than the XPT based on the keel depth. If you're not running studs, the skis will already have high grip compared to your track in certain conditions. Your Sno Trackers were pretty aggressive. With the new skis, you may not need that much carbide to make up bite in loose snow.
Unfortunately the pricing on carbides has gone up quite a bit with a couple of the main suppliers. Otherwise, I'd recommend trying a single round bar and a dual to compare. In this case, you could try a deuce carbide which is somewhat between the two. Luckily, they are not too bad on pricing so far this year.
Just a heads up, the C&A hole pattern is a little harder to find vs stock. I anticipate higher demand on the C&A pattern this year with Cat using their skis on a number of models.
With some lesser skis the carbides almost need more bite to overcome the lack of ski bottom contours. The Pro XPT skis have a little deeper keel than stock and side runners so I'll see how the dual setup works.
@euphoric1 , It sounds like you have a more aggressive version than the XPT based on the keel depth. If you're not running studs, the skis will already have high grip compared to your track in certain conditions. Your Sno Trackers were pretty aggressive. With the new skis, you may not need that much carbide to make up bite in loose snow.
Unfortunately the pricing on carbides has gone up quite a bit with a couple of the main suppliers. Otherwise, I'd recommend trying a single round bar and a dual to compare. In this case, you could try a deuce carbide which is somewhat between the two. Luckily, they are not too bad on pricing so far this year.
Just a heads up, the C&A hole pattern is a little harder to find vs stock. I anticipate higher demand on the C&A pattern this year with Cat using their skis on a number of models.
I'm thinking I am going to go with the " stud boy shaper 7.5" " The gunnel is pretty deep along with some...I call them smaller fins on outside of skis, looking at them I really don't think I will need any kind of dual bar and especially not any sno-trackers either.