OK, this is the problem I figured we would have getting somewhat of good information. No one has any amount of miles to prove my point to him yet. He puts 5,000-8000 miles on in a year like myself and he is concerned about the motors holding up . He blew up his 2013 three times (11,000 MILES NOW), His wife and grandkids drive it now,and his 2012 twice. He bought a Viper in February of 2014 and has over 9,000 miles on it and is thinking about going back to POO, (dont ask me why).Any more info is appreciated. Thanks, Rupp Collector , looking for 14 and 15s .