$45 is too much

[polarisrider1]

The questions is, where will it stop. It is still very much worth it to me, but I can understand the reluctance for the guys that may only use it on a trip or two.

It will not stop. everything goes up but our wages. Another motorcycle just went by the house, we need snow. I bought a permit and at 85 miles so far that was fifty three cents a mile. waa waa waa. and life goes on.

 

[polarisrider1]

maybe if you didn't live under mommy and daddys roof you would have a differnt opinion.

thats just hitting below the belt timo.
Indy's values are different that yours, thats all. I can pick cans and raise $45.

 

[Deleted member 10829]

your right about the hypocrite part and I do apologize. I could have used a better choice of words,,,sorry

Lenny is a good man and I knew he would apologize. Knowing him like I do, he meant no harm. You both handled this well in the end. Thank you.

 

[lenny]

I understood timo's comment to mean, if indy had the reponsibilities of the average adult, family, mortage, car payment he would better understand. Judging a mans values on a statement that could be received in various ways is a low blow


below the belt timo.
Indy's values are different that yours, thats all. I can pick cans and raise $45.[/QUOTE]

 

[Snow Rambler]

$20 for a 2-3 day pass...why not? A rider would only be able to beat up the trails for 2-3 days and pays almost 1/2 of a full season pass! It's a win win for everyone.

 

[polarisrider1]

I understood timo's comment to mean, if indy had the reponsibilities of the average adult, family, mortage, car payment he would better understand. Judging a mans values on a statement that could be received in various ways is a low blow


below the belt timo.
Indy's values are different that yours, thats all. I can pick cans and raise $45.

[/QUOTE]And I understood timos comment to mean that indy is a kid and he can buy a permit since he has his parents to fall back on. Lenny how is your day going? We need you rested up for the big winter storm.

 

[gscheck]

WOW !!! I started this last night and just got home from work.I didn't mean to get everyone wound up.I was just saying I will think twice about crossing the border for a day.If there is no snow anywhere else then i will definately spend the money.Remember,I go once a year.I think both wisconsin and up do an excellent job with the trail system.

 

[yamarage07]

The only place there is enough snow to ride is the up, so i am pretty sure the traffic is pretty heavy thursday through sunday extra heavy with all the weekend warriors going to ride.heavy traffic usually means rough trails.the groomers do the best they can considering the amount of traffic.$45 bucks to ride is not that bad when you consider all the other cost that goes with it

 

[polarisrider1]

$20 for a 2-3 day pass...why not? A rider would only be able to beat up the trails for 2-3 days and pays almost 1/2 of a full season pass! It's a win win for everyone.

Seems do able to me. heck the permit is cheap to make. MI could possible make more money with it. I suspect we will see one in the future when permits actually gets up there higher. But abain then we will have whinners about $20 being to high. I buy a permit and don't bat an eye. I pull the $45 out of my cigarette account. (I don't smoke, but did years ago) I also pull 2- week long out west trips from the same account. Now if the permits keep going up I may have to tap into my beer account.

 

[polarisrider1]

Okay, those who think the permit is to expensive, How should the trail system be funded?

 

[Polarice]

Lenny is a good man and I knew he would apologize. Knowing him like I do, he meant no harm. You both handled this well in the end. Thank you.

I don't want any harsh feelings. As much as I hate to admit it I can be wrong sometimes and say things that I really don't mean. I do want people to come to the UP(even if they do whine about trail permit costs ). Heck you can come to Ohio and spend a day at Cedar Point for around $50. That's one day of trail riding vs. one day at an amusement park. Is it worth the $45??? Hells yes!

 

[whitedust]

Yes, I here what you are saying but they still need to keep it from a 2' mogul course for the whole day. Going out once a day just doesn't do it when there are that many sleds tearing it up. I can say yes normally your right and that is how it should be done but when the traffic was like it was the groomers need to be running more.

Thanks for your time and grooming. It is greatly appreciated.

X2........ you can't let trail grooming get to far out of control difference between a pleasant ride & snow cross. Take good with bad but not all bad....... I had 1 day all bad didn't care but next day after groomers did their thing I had a real good time. It's all about exspectation & having fun. No fun entire day on Snowcross track.

 

[catalac]

I understood timo's comment to mean, if indy had the reponsibilities of the average adult, family, mortage, car payment he would better understand. Judging a mans values on a statement that could be received in various ways is a low blow


below the belt timo.
Indy's values are different that yours, thats all. I can pick cans and raise $45.

[/QUOTE]

Lenny, how do you think I get to go up north? Pickin can's baby!

 

[Polarice]

Okay, those who think the permit is to expensive, How should the trail system be funded?

It should come out of Obamas campaign fund.

 

[catalac]

Lenny, when we gonna strike up a deal on the Rampar?
My boy needs a new bike..

 

[whitedust]

WOW !!! I started this last night and just got home from work.I didn't mean to get everyone wound up.I was just saying I will think twice about crossing the border for a day.If there is no snow anywhere else then i will definately spend the money.Remember,I go once a year.I think both wisconsin and up do an excellent job with the trail system.

No sweat you have your opinion I get it. Ride on!

 

[polarisrider1]

The only place there is enough snow to ride is the up, so i am pretty sure the traffic is pretty heavy thursday through sunday extra heavy with all the weekend warriors going to ride.heavy traffic usually means rough trails.the groomers do the best they can considering the amount of traffic.$45 bucks to ride is not that bad when you consider all the other cost that goes with it

Wanna bet. I found snow elsewhere and only 8 hrs. from home. permit is $100 for 3 days. No traffic.

 

[mride460]

We all agree snowmobiling is expensive entertainment. If $45 is to expensive to ride in Michigan, don't ride in Michigan.
When I cross into Wisconsin to ride for one or two days each year I buy their sticker at the yearly price because I might go back sometime later.
I figure if I can afford the $10,000 for a sled, the $4/gal gas, $40/gal oil, $700 riding gear, $500 helmet, & the endless meal and hotel bills the cost of a trail permit doesn't even cross my mind. It could be $100 per sled and I'd pay it because its worth it to me. and all 4 of my sleds would have one...

 

[whitedust]

We all agree snowmobiling is expensive entertainment. If $45 is to expensive to ride in Michigan, don't ride in Michigan.
When I cross into Wisconsin to ride for one or two days each year I buy their sticker at the yearly price because I might go back sometime later.
I figure if I can afford the $10,000 for a sled, the $4/gal gas, $40/gal oil, $700 riding gear, $500 helmet, & the endless meal and hotel bills the cost of a trail permit doesn't even cross my mind. It could be $100 per sled and I'd pay it because its worth it to me. and all 4 of my sleds would have one...

Just remember not everyone has a budget like that for riding! Different strokes for different folks.

 

[mride460]

Just remember not everyone has a budget like that for riding! Different strokes for different folks.

You're right. Was just stating how I look at things.