Yep I get it & I spend very freely as well on the sport. But on the other hand others really do stay within their riding budgets & that is it no more money after the budget is shot. I have bought others food & drink because they did not have money mostly the younger married guys. Too me a good time don't care spend what I have too & more but others can't do that. You know just saying I undersatnd both sides.
$45 is too much
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Yep I get it & I spend very freely as well on the sport. But on the other hand others really do stay within their riding budgets & that is it no more money after the budget is shot. I have bought others food & drink because they did not have money mostly the younger married guys. Too me a good time don't care spend what I have too & more but others can't do that. You know just saying I undersatnd both sides.
I would LOVE to spend the whole day on a snox track. Thinkin about spending $100 to go to ERX just for one day. That makes the UP seem pretty cheap for even one day! We have 4 sleds ourselves and a pack of more than 10. Im pretty sure you will see us in the UP.
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I don't want any harsh feelings. As much as I hate to admit it I can be wrong sometimes and say things that I really don't mean. I do want people to come to the UP(even if they do whine about trail permit costs). Heck you can come to Ohio and spend a day at Cedar Point for around $50. That's one day of trail riding vs. one day at an amusement park. Is it worth the $45??? Hells yes!
For myself, I have no hard feelings and hold no grudges. I probably make more mistakes than most. If you come up this way I'm buying you a beer and if you don't drink I'll buy lunch. I still believe most people are good and value a friendship
Lenny, how do you think I get to go up north? Pickin can's baby![/QUOTE]
that's a good thing, keep up the good work!
let me think about that, it's a posibility. Those old bikes are heavy and cost a lot to ship. You ever up this way?
Ok PM me when here & I will let you know where the crap is so you can bang it all day long. I'm not a banger but know it can be fun for some.
I do believe if it does keep going up, it will hurt the UP's economy. We bring 5-6 guys twice a year to ride up there, and this year it will be three times. It would be interesting to know how many people wouldnt go because of the price of the trail sticker. Im sure we spend 3-5 grand in the UP when its all added up. For me its a good deal because I get to ride my new sled, but for others, even in our group, the extra money it costs, could make them stay home. btw, trail 11 out of wakefield wasnt even worked on this year, beat the heck out us and our sleds, if your gonna put it on the trail map, at least try and clean it up and mark it.
For myself, I have no hard feelings and hold no grudges. I probably make more mistakes than most. If you come up this way I'm buying you a beer and if you don't drink I'll buy lunch. I still believe most people are good and value a friendship
I've been known to have a beer or twelve! I may take you up on that if I'm over that way one of these days. Thanks Lenny, I think you'll be a good friend
. If you're ever by Munising look me up if I'm in town. I'm there throughout the year trying to figure out the fish around there.lmao
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polarisrider1
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your right, I wasn't buying into tapping the beer fund either.
thanks lenny thats all i was try to say. after rereading my post i could of paraphrased my words better. i didn't mean no ill will what so ever. indy seems like a great kid and lord knows we need a lot more kids like indy in this world. indy if you took this the wrong way i apologize i meant nothing by it, just trying to point out differnet situations/circumstances.
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Totally understand. Snowmobiling is my life, It's what I work all summer for. That, and stupid stuff that doesn't do anything to put on my truck LOL I just bought clear headlights, foglights and corner lights with a chrome background. Most likely buying a new helmet and goggles tomorrow, and another gallon of Klotz the next day. No wonder my truck is always on E!
MI DNR website has a detailed explanation of permit fees and where the money goes to. The $45 trail fee is scheduled to 2015. It shows $8million being spent on trails while bringing in $5.6 million on trail fees. They seem to be trying to show a shortfall in funding. If you could determine how much revenue the sport brings to the state, I'm sure that the trail system is funded many times over. Figure in sales tax, motor fuel tax, hotel tax, income tax on related businesses, and the many people who bring their life savings to relocate to the UP after retirement, or buying/building cabins, etc. The DNR website stated a survey was made and 80% of snowmobilers were OK with the fee increase. It seems that the DNR wants to fully fund the trail system with permit money and let the state pocket the many more millions(probably 100's of millions) in income generated by snowmobilers. I will buy two permits as I do every year, even if it's only for a few days ride. I just won't be smiling as much as I used to while doing it!!!!
Someone replied to my earlier post on trail conditions around Lk G. (Groomer broke down). I would like to see a two trail pass, for many people they only make one trip to the UP. Also the same for WI, make a two day pass available. Lenny pretty much spelled out the cost, here in WI the clubs have to buy their groomers & drag with their own money.( no money from the DNR or any other Gov source). Groomers run from 80,000 to 140,000 plus, the drags are another expense. WI trail funding is structured somewhat different then MI, but the cost ae still there, and many are hidden costs. So far, 4 trips to MI, so my trail pass cost a liitle over $11/day, a few more trips & I'll almost be ridding for free. I do with out many things just so I can ride. See you on the trail
TOTALLY AGREE Lenny.....I always pay the fee's and can afford to BUT when you go to WI or MI for a few days to ride it would be nice to see a 2 day pass when you have a Family and 4 sleds its 180 before you even unload...here in Mn its still 31.00 for THREE years or 16.00 for ONE year and they a pretty good JOB grooming......If you asked WI or Mi business owners who benefit from the snowmobiling business I would bet they would ALL agree also with a 2 day pass if it meant that out of staters would come more often.....Last year especially when everbody had SNOW in their back yard...