thunderstruck88
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Brett Favre
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I found the information below on another website and found it interesting. I am a Packer fan and have certainly seen both sides of Brett's sword. When he is playing well and things are going his way (2009 regular season) he is a very good quarterback. When things go bad.....they seem to go really bad for him. I clearly remember the 2002 Rams game in which he threw 6 interceptions. That is an amazing and embarrassing statistic for anyone. In my opinion, Brett played great this year and I think a lot of that had to do with the fact that he wanted to prove to the Packers that they made a mistake in letting him go. He played good for the first part of last year with the Jets but ultimately fell apart and the team missed the playoffs. I don't think he really had any interest in going to NY but wanted to show he still had it in him. When that didn't go as planned he thought that he had to try again to show up his critics and the Vikings were really where he wanted to go in the first place. Brett played out of his mind this year, and I personally don't think that if he comes back next year that it will go as well as it did this year. He will be one year older and will take that much more punishment. He has gone an amazing amount of time without a significant injury and when you continue to roll the dice....eventually you will lose. His td/int ratio was the best of his career. Do you really think he can do that again? I think that the old Brett is just waiting to come out again. It is weird that when things really matter (last two NFC championship games) he can't get it done. I think that he will finally hang it up, but could be wrong?
interesting.......
Brett Favre added another chapter to his legacy Sunday – the legacy of colossal mistakes in critical moments of huge games. Brad Childress and the Vikings should have considered this legacy when they put all their eggs in the Brett Favre basket back in August. Most fans and observers would have been a little gun shy. But the Vikings and their long-suffering fans, desperate for their first Super Bowl champion, sold their souls to their former enemy. They apparently felt that the aging gunslinger and all-time ironman was the only thing that stood between their team and a title. It didn’t work out so well, as we saw Sunday in the final seconds of the fourth quarter of Minnesota’s 31-28 overtime loss to the Saints in the NFC title game. For the seventh time in nine seasons, the hopes of Brett Favre fans in Green Bay, New York and now Minnesota ended when he threw a crushing pick or picks in critical moments of the biggest games of the year. Here are the lowlights from the past decade, the other side of the legacy of the future Hall of Famer.
Jan. 20, 2002 The storyline: The 12-4 Packers have a shot to reach the conference championship game for first time since the 1997 season if they beat 14-2 Rams in the divisional round. The result: Favre throws 6 picks – tying the single-game NFL record for postseason picks last matched by Norm Van Brocklin ... back in 1955.
Jan. 4, 2003 The storyline: The 12-4 Packers were one of the best teams in football, playing at home against the tepid 9-6-1 Falcons in the wildcard round. The result: Favre sinks like a lead weight, reserving one of his worst performances of the year for when it matters most in a 27-7 loss (20 of 42, 47.6%, 247 yards, 5.9 YPA, 1 TD, 2 INT, 54.4 rating). It was Green Bay's lowest offensive output of the season and the first home playoff loss in franchise history. Favre not only threw two picks, he committed turnovers on three straight drives in the fourth quarter (one INT, two fumbles). Another fourth-quarter INT was overturned by a defensive penalty.
Jan. 11, 2004 The storyline: The Packers need to produce just one drive in overtime to beat the Eagles and then battle the Panthers for a chance to go to Super Bowl XXXVIII. The result: The Eagles win the overtime toss but are forced to go three and out by the Packers defense. On Green Bay’s very first offensive play of overtime, Favre tossed a bad pass into the hands of Eagles defender Brian Dawkins. Philly quarterback Donovan McNabb quickly moved his offense into easy field goal range for the 20-17 victory. Favre passed for 180 yards on the day, one of his lowest outputs of the year.
Jan. 9, 2005 The storyline: The 10-6 Packers draw a gimme, landing the 8-8 Vikings at home in the wildcard round of the NFC playoffs. The result: Favre turns out a gruesomely disfiguring playoff performance (22 of 33, 66.7%, 216 yards, 6.5 YPA, 1 TD, 4 INT, 55.4 rating), as Packers suffer a humiliating 31-17 loss to one of the worst teams ever to reach the playoffs. Had the Seahawks not lost to the Rams just one day earlier, Favre would have been the first quarterback in history to lose a playoff game to a .500 team. It was Favre's first four-pick game in two years.
Jan. 20, 2008 The storyline: Favre’s 13-3 Packers were favored at home against the 10-6 Giants on one of the coldest nights in Lambeau Field history. The result: Favre, and the Packers offense, suffered one of the most colossal collapses in history. In the fourth quarter and overtime, Favre completed 4 of 10 passes for 32 yards with 2 INTs. Green Bay’s final four drives, with a Super Bowl appearance easily within their grasp, went for 0, 7, 0 and 2 yards. Favre’s second pick, on the second play of overtime, set up New York’s final field goal in a 23-20 victory, and a trip to the Super Bowl.
The 2008 season The storyline: Brett Favre moves to a new team and leads the Jets to an AFC East-best 8-3 record through 11 games. The result: Favre was dreadful during the team’s stretch-run collapse, throwing 2 TDs against 9 picks. INTs lead directly to losses, and the Jets went 1-4 over the final five games and missed the playoffs with a 9-7 record despite their hot 8-3 start.
Jan. 24, 2010 The storyline: Favre’s Vikings totally outplay the favored Saints in New Orleans for four quarters in the NFC title game. The result: The Vikings are locked in a 28-28 tie with 19 seconds to play and face a 3rd and 15 at the Saints 38. They need a mere five yards to get a legit shot at a game-winning field goal to send Minnesota to the Super Bowl for the first time in 33 years; even a failure to gain a single yard would give kicker Ryan Longwell a chance to match his career best with a 55-yard field goal. The only thing that would kill Minnesota’s chances is an interception. Of course ... Favre throws the ball across his body and into the heart of the New Orleans defense, right into the hands of cornerback Tracy Porter. The Saints get the ball in overtime and proceed to go down the field and kick the game-winning field goal. Favre is one of the great ironmen and most prolific passers the game has ever seen. But his legacy also includes perhaps the longest list of critical mistakes compiled by any quarterback in the history of the game.
interesting.......
Brett Favre added another chapter to his legacy Sunday – the legacy of colossal mistakes in critical moments of huge games. Brad Childress and the Vikings should have considered this legacy when they put all their eggs in the Brett Favre basket back in August. Most fans and observers would have been a little gun shy. But the Vikings and their long-suffering fans, desperate for their first Super Bowl champion, sold their souls to their former enemy. They apparently felt that the aging gunslinger and all-time ironman was the only thing that stood between their team and a title. It didn’t work out so well, as we saw Sunday in the final seconds of the fourth quarter of Minnesota’s 31-28 overtime loss to the Saints in the NFC title game. For the seventh time in nine seasons, the hopes of Brett Favre fans in Green Bay, New York and now Minnesota ended when he threw a crushing pick or picks in critical moments of the biggest games of the year. Here are the lowlights from the past decade, the other side of the legacy of the future Hall of Famer.
Jan. 20, 2002 The storyline: The 12-4 Packers have a shot to reach the conference championship game for first time since the 1997 season if they beat 14-2 Rams in the divisional round. The result: Favre throws 6 picks – tying the single-game NFL record for postseason picks last matched by Norm Van Brocklin ... back in 1955.
Jan. 4, 2003 The storyline: The 12-4 Packers were one of the best teams in football, playing at home against the tepid 9-6-1 Falcons in the wildcard round. The result: Favre sinks like a lead weight, reserving one of his worst performances of the year for when it matters most in a 27-7 loss (20 of 42, 47.6%, 247 yards, 5.9 YPA, 1 TD, 2 INT, 54.4 rating). It was Green Bay's lowest offensive output of the season and the first home playoff loss in franchise history. Favre not only threw two picks, he committed turnovers on three straight drives in the fourth quarter (one INT, two fumbles). Another fourth-quarter INT was overturned by a defensive penalty.
Jan. 11, 2004 The storyline: The Packers need to produce just one drive in overtime to beat the Eagles and then battle the Panthers for a chance to go to Super Bowl XXXVIII. The result: The Eagles win the overtime toss but are forced to go three and out by the Packers defense. On Green Bay’s very first offensive play of overtime, Favre tossed a bad pass into the hands of Eagles defender Brian Dawkins. Philly quarterback Donovan McNabb quickly moved his offense into easy field goal range for the 20-17 victory. Favre passed for 180 yards on the day, one of his lowest outputs of the year.
Jan. 9, 2005 The storyline: The 10-6 Packers draw a gimme, landing the 8-8 Vikings at home in the wildcard round of the NFC playoffs. The result: Favre turns out a gruesomely disfiguring playoff performance (22 of 33, 66.7%, 216 yards, 6.5 YPA, 1 TD, 4 INT, 55.4 rating), as Packers suffer a humiliating 31-17 loss to one of the worst teams ever to reach the playoffs. Had the Seahawks not lost to the Rams just one day earlier, Favre would have been the first quarterback in history to lose a playoff game to a .500 team. It was Favre's first four-pick game in two years.
Jan. 20, 2008 The storyline: Favre’s 13-3 Packers were favored at home against the 10-6 Giants on one of the coldest nights in Lambeau Field history. The result: Favre, and the Packers offense, suffered one of the most colossal collapses in history. In the fourth quarter and overtime, Favre completed 4 of 10 passes for 32 yards with 2 INTs. Green Bay’s final four drives, with a Super Bowl appearance easily within their grasp, went for 0, 7, 0 and 2 yards. Favre’s second pick, on the second play of overtime, set up New York’s final field goal in a 23-20 victory, and a trip to the Super Bowl.
The 2008 season The storyline: Brett Favre moves to a new team and leads the Jets to an AFC East-best 8-3 record through 11 games. The result: Favre was dreadful during the team’s stretch-run collapse, throwing 2 TDs against 9 picks. INTs lead directly to losses, and the Jets went 1-4 over the final five games and missed the playoffs with a 9-7 record despite their hot 8-3 start.
Jan. 24, 2010 The storyline: Favre’s Vikings totally outplay the favored Saints in New Orleans for four quarters in the NFC title game. The result: The Vikings are locked in a 28-28 tie with 19 seconds to play and face a 3rd and 15 at the Saints 38. They need a mere five yards to get a legit shot at a game-winning field goal to send Minnesota to the Super Bowl for the first time in 33 years; even a failure to gain a single yard would give kicker Ryan Longwell a chance to match his career best with a 55-yard field goal. The only thing that would kill Minnesota’s chances is an interception. Of course ... Favre throws the ball across his body and into the heart of the New Orleans defense, right into the hands of cornerback Tracy Porter. The Saints get the ball in overtime and proceed to go down the field and kick the game-winning field goal. Favre is one of the great ironmen and most prolific passers the game has ever seen. But his legacy also includes perhaps the longest list of critical mistakes compiled by any quarterback in the history of the game.
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It's amazing how all that can be pointed out is his mistakes! That list would be twice as long if it listed his accomplishments. There were plenty of mistakes in the Saints game that cost us dearly, but we only hear about the Favre interception. To say that getting Favre was only successful if we won the Super Bowl is crazy. It's very tough to win a Super Bowl in this league. We went much further than we would have without him and I for one am glad we got him and I hope he comes back next year! He gave us Viking fans a year we will never forget and one that Packer's fans would love to forget. You try to forget by posting this kind of stuff! LOL
I don't think anyone is doubting his accomplishments. Brett has had a very nice career with many impressive stats. That list just shows that in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008 and 2010 Brett had his chance to shine when it really mattered and did not get it done. I don't think the 2010 loss was all his fault, but his throw certainly was the end of it. The funny part for me was that when he was a Packer, all of my Viking friends HATED Brett with a passion. He pulls on a nasty purple jersey and becomes GOD. That is the funny part to me
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And how is that any different than you Packer fans worshipping him for 16 years and turning on him once he goes to another team? You guys loved him as a Packer and now hate him and love to see him do bad when he's with another team! No difference!
Please you had good years with Moon, Salt-n-Pepper and Opey (B Johnson) so don't try to wash the wounds that he just messed up. Sure AP fumbled a bunch, but the fact of the matter is he could have run the ball or threw it to Berrian but HE didn't.
As far as hating Brett, WE didn't hate him in NY, we just do not like the Queens.
Firecatguy
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I wounder when the vike fans will have enuff of all this B.S and start throwing insults across the border??
enuff already you packer fans spent way more time worring about brett farve and the vikings then we do!!
enuff already you packer fans spent way more time worring about brett farve and the vikings then we do!!
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Thanks for proving my point! That's why we didn't like him when he was a Packer! LOL. You loved him as Packer but once he pulled on a purple jersey, you hated him. Same exact thing as datdude pointed out above. Not to mention the league admitted to a missed call on Brett's first interception when he was hit both high and low. But when Rodgers had a little hand in his face mask when he fumbled away your game at Arizona, all I heard was how the refs blew the call. Come on, at least be consistent!
You forgot to mention Berrian's fumble at the 10 yard line, Harvin's fumble that the Saints recovered inside the 10 and scored a touchdown and 12 guys in the huddle, all of which cost us just as much, if not more, than the interception. It's a minimum 13 point swing (including AP's fumble at end of first half) and possibly 21 points!
It's time for you Packer fans to start worrying about your own team.
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xcr440,
Thanks a lot for posting that! I never really gave that a thought as to why he didn't run on that play, but this sure shows why. The fact that he kept playing is a tribute to his toughness! I would want Favre in my huddle every time!
Thanks a lot for posting that! I never really gave that a thought as to why he didn't run on that play, but this sure shows why. The fact that he kept playing is a tribute to his toughness! I would want Favre in my huddle every time!
hemi_newman
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where can you buy that t-shirt?