Comments on AC 2021 New Line Up?

whitedust

Well-known member
I felt like Yamaha officially announced they were giving up when they released the transporter with the cat 2 stroke. Nothing wrong with the sled but it has nothing yamaha in it other than skis and stickers.

I was told by a guy in northern ontario last January who operates some cabins for snowmobilers that Yamaha was up there testing new, high-end Yamaha-built sleds for 2021 release. This was before the 2020's came out and he told us to hold off buying anything before 2021. I'm not sure why he'd lie to us but it seems far-fetched

That’s exactly why I don’t think Yamaha has any new sleds on the cook. No leaks , no spy pictures, no internet sightings , no nuttin! That’s so difficult to do in this day and age with cameras everywhere. It would benefit Yamaha to leak a little something but still nothing so it appears Yamaha is done. It would be laughable for Yamaha to stay with the procross while Cat moves on with a new platform. November will define a lot for AC and common sense will prevail if Yamaha says nothing.
 

old abe

Well-known member
That’s exactly why I don’t think Yamaha has any new sleds on the cook. No leaks , no spy pictures, no internet sightings , no nuttin! That’s so difficult to do in this day and age with cameras everywhere. It would benefit Yamaha to leak a little something but still nothing so it appears Yamaha is done. It would be laughable for Yamaha to stay with the procross while Cat moves on with a new platform. November will define a lot for AC and common sense will prevail if Yamaha says nothing.

whitedust, we were out west at a friends way out of the way, back in the far boonies, back when Yamaha was testing the prototype/pre-build Vector/Mountain sled. We were off the "radar" you might say as we were so far into nowhere area. Even back then, within days, there were pics all over. With today's tech, as in drones, no way to keep it secret. No way! Yamaha has lost a lot of their loyal customer base already. This next year will not make it any better. Too many have heard this BS, and seen this show too many times already. And don't forget it is Yamaha's choosing to be where they are. That being very limited. Imo, they fumbled this whole thing very badly!
 

Attak man

New member
I remember Yamaha testing the Nytro back in 2010....they were way up in Thompsen Manitoba, on a lake...pictures popped up on the internet of the arctic cat factory truck parked next to the yamaha truck, and everybody laughed about it...4 years later...the viper arrived...but there is literally nothing at there about yamaha...not even recent patents ...the recent moves of the snowmobile division here in north america, gave people some hope that something was going on...but so far..nada....Yamaha would be wise to follow cats move, and do an early season release, or at least tease a bit if new stuff is coming...because right now they are deep in the water, and people who were extremely loyal to yamaha, who hung in as long as they could are now jumping ship, and going to other brands.
 

snobuilder

Well-known member
FWIW....AS FAR AS YAMAHA AND TEXTRON AGEEMENTS GO......pretty sure this cat is sporting the 3 holer Yamaha
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Snowbandit

New member
I couldn't agree more. I am a current Cat rider for last 10 years because I felt they had the best product and their race program was on point. With the last couple years, lack of changes, dealer support, race program investment I have seriously looked at going back to Polaris. They definitely know their customer base and IMO are the leading brand right know in the mountain and trail sleds. The 21' Cats with new decals for third year in a row isn't cutting it .
 

brad460

Member
I felt like Yamaha officially announced they were giving up when they released the transporter with the cat 2 stroke. Nothing wrong with the sled but it has nothing yamaha in it other than skis and stickers.

I was told by a guy in northern ontario last January who operates some cabins for snowmobilers that Yamaha was up there testing new, high-end Yamaha-built sleds for 2021 release. This was before the 2020's came out and he told us to hold off buying anything before 2021. I'm not sure why he'd lie to us but it seems far-fetched

You were being lied too...
 

Skylar

Super Moderator
Staff member
People change brands every year. Just because someone switches, doesn't mean they won't switch back.
 

xsledder

Active member
People change brands every year. Just because someone switches, doesn't mean they won't switch back.


Yep Skylar. Yamaha comes out with something new for 2021, there will be a lot of used 900 Ace Turbos for sale in the fall of 2021.
 

xsledder

Active member
After looking at the picture on their website, I think they are releasing an improved Alpha. The headlight, seat and cowling is a little different or maybe refined. No major changes, just small enhancements like they have been doing the last few years.

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ezra

Well-known member
I get it that we have brand loyal fellas on here.
You know what makes me brand loyal, value.
I don't care who is making what, if I get buried on resale I am not going back to buy another the year after.

ICT is correct, A/C is doing no favors to their fans by trying to change the game.
Heck, T/A Motorsports still has new 2013 Cats in stock. Can you imagine seeing a new 2013 next to a 2021 on the showroom? Cat should have managed those old sleds..idiots.

Bear

lol I have never seen a used sled not loose a big pile of cash . especaly if the track is more than 144 then you are just giving them away in 3 yrs
 

whitedust

Well-known member
Yep Skylar. Yamaha comes out with something new for 2021, there will be a lot of used 900 Ace Turbos for sale in the fall of 2021.

Highly doubtful the 900t has been very reliable. What is possible if a pure Yamaha sled appears is lots of Yamacats being traded in plus Apex and Vectors. Not a likely scenario to see a pure Yamaha sled.
 

Attak man

New member
Yep Skylar. Yamaha comes out with something new for 2021, there will be a lot of used 900 Ace Turbos for sale in the fall of 2021.

They would have to come with some of the yamaha features that aren't on the cats...EPS, and their version of the wireless throttle (there is zero hesitation with yamaha's wireless throttle, it works great)...they definately would have to be in a new chassis, with their own suspensions, and a new high tech gauge package....otherwise...I highly doubt anybody would dump the sleds they currently own. Again..I just don't see them doing that...and even if they did, they are so far behind everybody else, they would need an earth shattering, HUGE release that set the industry on it's ear....their lack of truthful communication with their loyal riders is disturbing...and tells me yamaha japan is in complete charge of what direction their snowmobile division is going...and frankly...they have been out of touch with what north american snowmobilers want for a very long time.
 

jonesin

Well-known member
lol I have never seen a used sled not loose a big pile of cash . especaly if the track is more than 144 then you are just giving them away in 3 yrs

HEY, ITS EZRA!
where you been man?
I was wondering what happened to ya
 

kip

Well-known member
Time will tell fella's. Believe it or not with the lack of production I have seen used Yamaha resale value climb. Even as limited as the Yamaha lineup is, it's selling very well for us. We certainly need new Yamaha product there's no denying that. Yamaha has made many cutbacks, many of which I do not like. They have the technology but it does get old when they're not using it to it's full potential. I truly believe they have some of their own Yamaha built sleds in testing. Whether or not they pull the trigger is a whole different story. I've seen some cool stuff they have built that never made it to market. Hope is a dangerous but I still have some left:)
 

Attak man

New member
Kip....I hope you are right...but good thing you sell polaris......Maybe you should sell ski-doo too...(you'd look good in yellow)...lol
 

SledTL

Active member
Yamaha started having a marketing guy post videos on facebook from snow shows. While they have beat around the bush, they keep saying they will answer questions if you post below. Of course its repetitive things from above.
 
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