skidoodoug
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I went from the 00 MXZ to the Xp and I love it. My wife would still rather ride her 01 MXZ though. She didnt like sitting higher up, said the wind hit her more.
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I went from the 00 MXZ to the Xp and I love it. My wife would still rather ride her 01 MXZ though. She didnt like sitting higher up, said the wind hit her more.
goofy600
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It took both me and my wife a couple days to get use to the Rev after switching from the zx chassis, and yes old sleds were warmer, but get a tall windshield and the extra knee wind deflectors and that will make the xp a lot warmer, all the things I learned over time. But it really does take some time to get use to the rev or the xp after being on the zx sit down type sleds.
Check out Vector & Apex with eps for comfortable seating position & are EFI 4s....no carbs....any doo XP sdi or etec would fit your needs well. With bad hips & knees Rev would be a very bad choice for ya.
mustardbucket2
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For your ideal sled you could get a Doo 1200 4 stroke. Mine has the rmotion suspension, a relaxed but forward ride, 121" track, wind protection, reverse, etc. We went from the 600 SDI Revs to the XR 4 strokes and love them.
A Cat Twin Spar with a 600 or 800 would give you everything you're looking for other than gas mileage. It will use more gas and oil but you could probably buy it at a price that will make up for that. Lighter than what you are riding, relatively cheap to buy, great and adjustable seating position, 128" track, great wind protection and rear suspension, EFI, very reliable for a 2 stroke. Guy I ride with had 12,000 on his Cat 700, and we finally talked him into selling it, but he sold it to his nephew, who is now riding with us too. Can't seem to break the engine
arcticgeorge
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I agree %100 I just said that to a friend who's other friend couldnt ride cause his Ski-Doo was broke again. Very often i see one for sale its just been rebuilt or needs to be. .I was in Neilson's (they sell all 4 brands) getting oil and the long time employee said "just the oil?" i said yep my old Cat has been good to me....He said that's good not surprised, them Polaris's and Ski Doo's keep us busy back here (in the parts department). Just my experience. I do think Yamaha makes the some of the best engines around, really Yamaha makes some of the best electronic's, drum sets, pianos, motorcycles/dirt bikes, sleds around. Nick Keller has put almost 80,000 miles on the same 4 stroke Yamaha so far.
it sounds like the seating position on a newer skidoo would work well for your issues. we too have back and hip problems and it works for us. i still like my vector but the yam seating feels much more cramped and 'old' than doos when you ride them back to back. the xr chassis is doos slightly larger, more protective body work with their 1200 4stk motor. why do you want another 121? 136 improves ride quality alot with little/no change in handling. look at a gsx 1200se or renegade 1200 adrenalin models and see how they fit you......
Hoosier, my wife has carpel tunnel problems from snowmobiling. After we bought the 04 Ski Doo GSX we went on a 6 day trip to Northern Ontario and her hand got numb. First, when you own something with that many miles it doesn't owe you anything. Last year 2013 there was a left over 600 Ace 2012 tnt mxz she test rode it and wanted it. she really liked the eaze of throttle and said it had power steering, so I would say handling and the ride. Several years ago I bought the 2010 600etec renegade and still had the 05 500ss MZX as a backup. I test drove the 900 Ace tnt and traded in the mzx and renegade.
I really liked the Renegade but my wife was after me to get the 4 stroke. BTW my son and daughter both graduated from Purdue and my mom, sister & grandfather are IU grads.
SledTL
Active member
Ok so I'm not the only one who gets a sore thumb when I ride my dads GSX....gives me an excuse to ride it harder so my finger doesn't hurt. Plus I've noticed that people say that the hand warmers fail often? Last year his stopped working. Was it some common thing??
We learn more about each other as more detail is listed. Ok you put Apex seat on RX1 raising the center of gravity yes higher better for your knees but you also caused the sled to be tippy. Apex is not a tippy sled neither is Vector eps is a dream 136 or 144 much better flotation better bump bridging + better hook up no matter the engine so look past 121 track old tech. You have had two hips replaced and have crappy knees & you are worrying about boring Yamahas??? Boring is good It means never walking out nothing like a comfortable & boring 250- 300 mile day on the trails & FRs.lol With replaced hips & crappy knees the last thing you want start trying to do is throwing a sled around your body won't take it. I'm 67 ride Yamaha Apex XTX thru all the junk the trail & FRs can offer & wear a sixsixone core protector wrapped by a back thing + use 2 Mueller hinged knee braces to keep the knees from too much stress. I think you would be most happy with a Vector LTX with eps & dampers & you will be able to spend much more time on the trail not be bored as you can ride longer hours go where a 136 can take you & the 121 RX1 could not. You are on the correct brand just need to upgrade to new tech thebarnd offers. Nothing wrong with doos but sounds like Ace or 1200 would be best sled for you in 136 track sdi solid too but you are going to smell smoke & after 4s tha could be a problem. 2 smoke didn't bother me until I rode 4s for 7 years now 2 smoke gives me a headache & I can smell them a mile down the trail & know I'm pulling on 1 in the Twistys. Best advice is visit Pat's test ride these sleds so you know for sure what you like by the seat of your pants.
Makes sense to me. I just figured my only issues with 2 strokes are long-term reliability and operating costs, and it seemed that you got both of those out of your 2 strokes. But I now see why you went with the 4 strokes. I'm probably one year from my next sled, so I'm trying to ask a lot of questions, and it's good to get answers from people who have actually owned the sleds and instead of just repeating what they heard somewhere else. I'll probably end up buying new and keeping for a long time.
Glad to hear your mom, sister and grandfather are good people!
snobuilder
Well-known member
We learn more about each other as more detail is listed. Ok you put Apex seat on RX1 raising the center of gravity yes higher better for your knees but you also caused the sled to be tippy. Apex is not a tippy sled neither is Vector eps is a dream 136 or 144 much better flotation better bump bridging + better hook up no matter the engine so look past 121 track old tech. You have had two hips replaced and have crappy knees & you are worrying about boring Yamahas??? Boring is good It means never walking out nothing like a comfortable & boring 250- 300 mile day on the trails & FRs.lol With replaced hips & crappy knees the last thing you want start trying to do is throwing a sled around your body won't take it. I'm 67 ride Yamaha Apex XTX thru all the junk the trail & FRs can offer & wear a sixsixone core protector wrapped by a back thing + use 2 Mueller hinged knee braces to keep the knees from too much stress. I think you would be most happy with a Vector LTX with eps & dampers & you will be able to spend much more time on the trail not be bored as you can ride longer hours go where a 136 can take you & the 121 RX1 could not. You are on the correct brand just need to upgrade to new tech thebarnd offers. Nothing wrong with doos but sounds like Ace or 1200 would be best sled for you in 136 track sdi solid too but you are going to smell smoke & after 4s tha could be a problem. 2 smoke didn't bother me until I rode 4s for 7 years now 2 smoke gives me a headache & I can smell them a mile down the trail & know I'm pulling on 1 in the Twistys. Best advice is visit Pat's test ride these sleds so you know for sure what you like by the seat of your pants.
Stellar advise, WD,...I went back to a 2 stroke this year and the lightweight 600 was a trip back to my younger days but what was lacking after running 3 and 4 cyl yamahas for the past 7 years was the instant and in the 3 holer almost silent huge torque pull they have on tap, LIKE NOW!
Looking at the older 2 stroke ski doos seems like a waste of time when the e-techs are coming down in price, although the sealed crank bearings need 4 more years of owner trail testing before they can be trusted to even being close to the 1/2 life of a Yamaha mill.
WD, I'm 50 years old and just the unlucky recipient of hereditary arthritis. Most of my joints are good now, but I just have to watch how far I push things. Sometimes I have to drag the front end of the RX-1 around on the trailer, and I feel that the next day if I don't do it right. That's one reason I'm looking for a lighter sled. As far as the track length, I'd have to measure things to see what would fit in my trailer. I'm pretty sure a 136 would go in but definitely nothing longer. I'm done with carbs. Apex or Vector might be the answer. We'll see.
Sealed crank bearings have been around quite a while. My 05 600 SDI had them.
groomerdriver
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You go like 5'10" and 250lb don't you? You wouldn't fit well on most sleds much less one of the original Rev's.
indy_500
Well-known member
225 cut me some slack LOL I don't know many snowmobilers under 200 lbs... My buddy has a 12 MXZ 800 X and skipped the rev era, couldn't stand the seating position. It feels like a crotch rocket. XP's are VERY comfortable IMO now if only they could sidehill... My buddys 12 MXZ 800 X with the r motion is one of the most comfortable trail sleds I've ridden.
I feel your pain...lol...but this is the reason I don't think you want to buy a sled where it handles best via where your body is located on the seat....don't go there. Point & shoot is your best bet in a 136 track. A Vector LTX with eps is your best bet gives you everything you want stock. All sleds are heavy horsing around on trailer....Do you have low profile slides?...Much easier to move front end & slide left & right also slip on ski protectors would help too any sled. Any Xp would fit you well too sdi & etec pretty good 2s engines but only 118 ish hp & you are used to 145ish to 150 4s. That is a lot to give up but if you are ready for 120hp then aok. The Vector will have sooo much more power than any 600 sdi or etec so I just think it is a better match for you coming off RX1 with Apex seat. I had to adjust to Apex XTX engine braking reduction from my Attak so any 2s will feel like freewheeling going into corners. A whole different animal to RX1.
indy_500
Well-known member
I bet groomerdriver's rev can't do this!
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Anyone can sidehill an XP if they take the time to get comfortable with it. I always chuckle when I see those comments. I know guys with XP's who will side hill circles all day long around the nay sayers who claim the XP can't sidehill worth a darn.....