Fear the Deere

skiroule

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She's a beaut, Clark!
That she is, Eddie, that she is.

how about a green racing stripe going up one side of the black portain of the hood???
I suppose it seems a little strange now but more than one sled of the day sported a stripe, Chaparral SS models probably being the most recognizable.

It’s a little hard to visualize but it probably wouldn’t look out of place. I guess right now the plan is to use stock graphics, maybe a with some minor modifications. Think the yellow graphics will really provide a sharp contrast.
 

skiroule

Well-known member
Just posting to prove I’m not a total slacker. Mostly but not total.

Finally got the transmission in the Cub Cadet so I could get that freeloader out of the shop and get some real work done. Made some progress on tearing down the new kid on the block. Removed the hood, exhaust, motor, suspension, and skis.

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The sooner I get this torn down the sooner I can get back to building.
 

euphoric1

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Everything ok at the skiroule work shop? I just added another barn find to my collection, picked up a 1971 Snopony 180 complete, hard to believe the seat is still soft, motor free and feels really good, skis a little thin on bottom but other than that in pretty good shape, funny thing I think the mustang logo in aluminum front plate is the same as my mustang logo on my car LOL
 

skiroule

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Well Brian, it’s been pretty quiet in there. I figured I’d better take advantage of the unusually mild weather and tackle a slew of outdoor homestead projects I didn’t think I’d get done this fall.

Really happy to hear that your vintage fleet continues to expand. Don’t know much about the SnoPony, think I’ve maybe seen one in person. I seem to recall it was pretty small, even a the time when sleds were typically much smaller than they are today.

Hopefully you can take it for a little spin this winter.
 

skiroule

Well-known member
Thanks guys, ordered graphics from The Sled Printer tonight. They are going to run a couple of extra things in additon to the stock set. Will be starting chassis reassembly next week. Still obstacles to overcome but glad to be where I’m at now instead of where I was a month ago.

Is that matte black on the suspension? Looks great!
It’s actually flat but I considered both matte and flat and eventually decided on flat. I’ve done most of the parts that are painted black in satin but I wanted a little less gloss on the rear suspension. I agree, I like the look as it’s painted.
 
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gary_in_neenah

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"Continue to be amazed at the engineering that John Deere put into this sled."

Just curious, care to elaborate when compared with your other projects?
 

mezz

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I like seeing the progress, this one seems to be moving at a decent pace. Par for the course, nicely done! Looking forward to the finished product & seeing it run.
 

skiroule

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"Continue to be amazed at the engineering that John Deere put into this sled."

Just curious, care to elaborate when compared with your other projects?
Well Gary, you had to ask.

By today’s standards it might not be so impressive but this sled was designed many, many years before auto-CAD and computer modelling became commonplace.

One overall thing that is very evident is that this sled was designed with durability and serviceability in mind. Everything just seems to fit together well and almost all chassis components are bolt-on, with literally every nut on this sled being a locking nut.

It’s hard to pick out specifics because there are so many little things you run across when working on it but here’s a few that come to mind quickly.

The Cyclone used a front crossmember assembly design that was adopted by a number of performance sleds of the day but I really like the Deere design. It attaches to the chassis frame horns with very long connecting surfaces and the fit is very precise. Unlike some that used rivets or welds to attach the assembly, this sled utilizes bolts, which allows for easy removal or installation.

This sled also used a steering design that was a departure from the standard twin tie-rod design that was popular back in the day. Instead, it used a single steering rod that connects to one ski spindle steering arm and a cross link to connect the two spindle steering arms. Polaris also used a similar design in their later model TX’s but it’s my opinion that the Deere design was better in one aspect: The link connects the spindle arms from behind the spindles rather than in front. This allows for a shorter link rod and makes it less likely to bend, which was a common problem on the TXs.

On the rear suspension, a couple of things jump out: First the pivot shafts run through nylon, replaceable bushings, which require little or no lubrication and don’t seize, which is common for the designs that run aluminum shafts through steel tubes. Second, the suspension can be installed before tensioning the springs so it is not under load when trying to line up the mounting holes. When the springs are tensioned, they are connected to the chassis by a tensioning arm that uses a threaded bolt for adjustment. The tension on all four springs can be adjusted individually using just a socket and ratchet.

My apologies for a long answer to a short question. Maybe I spend a little too much time thinking about this stuff when I’m out in the shop.
 

gary_in_neenah

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Well, that would explain their success on the cross-country races. Thanks for the reply. I for one, check in frequently for any updates and look forward to the pictures. :)
 

heckler56

Active member
Well Gary, you had to ask.

By today’s standards it might not be so impressive but this sled was designed many, many years before auto-CAD and computer modelling became commonplace.

One overall thing that is very evident is that this sled was designed with durability and serviceability in mind. Everything just seems to fit together well and almost all chassis components are bolt-on, with literally every nut on this sled being a locking nut.

It’s hard to pick out specifics because there are so many little things you run across when working on it but here’s a few that come to mind quickly.

The Cyclone used a front crossmember assembly design that was adopted by a number of performance sleds of the day but I really like the Deere design. It attaches to the chassis frame horns with very long connecting surfaces and the fit is very precise. Unlike some that used rivets or welds to attach the assembly, this sled utilizes bolts, which allows for easy removal or installation.

This sled also used a steering design that was a departure from the standard twin tie-rod design that was popular back in the day. Instead, it used a single steering rod that connects to one ski spindle steering arm and a cross link to connect the two spindle steering arms. Polaris also used a similar design in their later model TX’s but it’s my opinion that the Deere design was better in one aspect: The link connects the spindle arms from behind the spindles rather than in front. This allows for a shorter link rod and makes it less likely to bend, which was a common problem on the TXs.

On the rear suspension, a couple of things jump out: First the pivot shafts run through nylon, replaceable bushings, which require little or no lubrication and don’t seize, which is common for the designs that run aluminum shafts through steel tubes. Second, the suspension can be installed before tensioning the springs so it is not under load when trying to line up the mounting holes. When the springs are tensioned, they are connected to the chassis by a tensioning arm that uses a threaded bolt for adjustment. The tension on all four springs can be adjusted individually using just a socket and ratchet.

My apologies for a long answer to a short question. Maybe I spend a little too much time thinking about this stuff when I’m out in the shop.
I am not sure if I am more impressed by the Deere build or your knowledge of this!
 

skiroule

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I guess most of what I’ve picked up is from hands-on experience or looking at a lot of vintage sleds (probably too many). Believe me, there’s a lot I don’t know on just this sled. The Cyclone dealer service manual is 260 pages long.

Not project related but I think there’s a saying about all work and no play. Snow’s here, time to get this little bronco out for a ride. Yard is pretty tracked up now.
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Did do a little light-weight stuff in the shop, installed the handlebar controls, dash cover and most of the dash items. Tach was not standard on the Cyclones but I’m putting one in off a Liquifire. Like seeing those RPMs build.

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