Ford Tow Vehicle: Twin Turbo Ecoboost 6 or the 8 Cylinder

ezra

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my cuz got a Toyota Prado diesel from some dignitary in DC sweet suv over well 25mpg and can pull anything.
more or less a offshore land cruiser
 

Jonger1150

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The Hino V6 is an 8.0L engine, that would be the biggest diesel pickup on earth. I'm hoping for a rival to the Ram 1500 diesel. Its time for America to stop buying gasoline trucks.
 

tundra ron

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Diesel trucks are not for snowmobile trailer you are in the hole when you buy them. 5 to10 grand more fuel 15 to 20% more
 

ezra

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yep and a 10 yr old diesel with 200k still gets well over 10k resale when the same z71 is lucky to get 3 grand.
and 20 mpg yanking a 26ft at 80 with power left to pass up hill and the ability to black cloud a Prius at the same time priceless

I think 95% of guys with big diesels have them for a reason work and they work the piss out of them.

. the 2 guys I know that don't need a f350 have enough money that the king ranch is just a toy for winter and pulling German race cars to road America in the summer.
 
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borderstaff

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Back on topic. Rev500, I have a 2011 F150 SuperCrew 6 1/2 ft box box with the 5.0L and about 27000 miles in it now. I pull my travel trailer with it. The trailer is 35 1/2 ft long (a 2014 Bullet Premier 31BHPR) that weighs 6900 dry and about 7800 loaded. I also haul about 500 lbs of stuff in the bed (included a 200 lb generator so I can run the AC on the highway as I haul my 5 dogs in the trailer). I put airbags in the rear of the truck. We have about 5000 miles on the truck towing the camper this summer including 1000 miles this last weekend and always set the cruise at 65. Over the 5000 miles we've averaged 9.4 mpg. It tows well with an equalizer hitch but as stated the tires are a weak link. I'm looking forward to getting new tires with a stiffer sidewall.
 

luke_duke

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I am buying my wife a 2014 Ford Explorer Sport with the 3.5L Eco twin turbo v6. I assume this is the same engine they are putting in the F150 or is there some minor changes? I am getting it completely loaded which includes the Tow Package. If what you guys are saying is correct, I should be able to tow a 27 foot all aluminum in-line trailer without a problem? I bet that's really going to fly well with her.
 
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Jonger1150

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This is what is so good about upcoming Ram 1500 diesel, its only $3500 more than the standard V8. Now, 99% of the time the diesel will only drop maybe 25% economy pulling what its rated for, compared to gasoline trucks that lose HALF their fuel economy.

We pulled a 4 place up to Wawa last winter and averaged 8mpg on a new Dodge Ram with the V8, I'm thinking that the same truck with a diesel would have dropped to 15mpg or better, that thing supposedly cruises at 27mpg unloaded.
 

willey

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I am buying my wife a 2014 Ford Explorer Sport with the 3.5L Eco twin turbo v6. I assume this is the same engine they are putting in the F150 or is there some minor changes? I am getting it completely loaded which includes the Tow Package. If what you guys are saying is correct, I should be able to tow a 27 foot all aluminum in-line trailer without a problem? I bet that's really going to fly well with her.

In my opinion you would be pushing the capabilities of the suspension and braking system with a fully loaded 27' inline behind an explorer. The engine might be up for it but under extreme braking or maneuvers you might feel your shorts getting full.
 

garyl62

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I am buying my wife a 2014 Ford Explorer Sport with the 3.5L Eco twin turbo v6. I assume this is the same engine they are putting in the F150 or is there some minor changes? I am getting it completely loaded which includes the Tow Package. If what you guys are saying is correct, I should be able to tow a 27 foot all aluminum in-line trailer without a problem? I bet that's really going to fly well with her.

Max tow capacity for that vehicle is listed at 5,000 lbs and it only has a wheelbase of 112. I'd be real nervous about pulling a 27' long 4 place loaded with sleds and gear, then add 4 guys in the vehicle. Those are very similar vehicle numbers to my Sport Trac and I really only want to pull a 22' with 2 sleds, maybe 3 depending on how confident I will be in the weather conditions. Last thing you want to do is end up in the ditch with the wife's new vehicle, your trips could very well be over if that happened.
 

heckler56

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The Ecoboost pulls like a diesel. No compliant there. My 2011 was a crew cab with a 5 1/2 box, Ecoboost with 3.73 rear. Lots of torque. MPG, stunk. 14 around town, 16 hwy not pulling anything and 8 pulling a 23' inline enclosed trailer. As others have mentioned, you will want to go with rear air bags or spring assist (I can sell you mine:).
After many years of having a diesel I was uncomfortable with the light frame of the F150 for towing a trailer in the winter. Had to go back to a F350 diesel. Yes Ezra, a King Ranch, but it is my daily driver.
When i got rid of the F150 I had 22,000 miles with over 80% towing. The mpg did not live up to the hype, for me.
My son had a 2011 F150 with the 5.0. I like that engine allot. It definitely feels strong.
Its all about what your comfortable with.
 

ezra

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some one was just saying at a BS round at my buds shop tonight that ford was being sued and had to retract MPG ratings for the eco boost.
 

Cat600

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isn't there a good size problem with the ecoboosts?

I read somewhere that water was getting into the turbos (or some part around there) and basically killing the turbos, so people were losing all power, even right in the middle of traffic, so some potential serious problems/accidents there.

But don't quote me on that.
 

ezra

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dont know about loosing all power.
I know of 1 guy who got a eco and ford eventual bought it back and he got the 5.0
his was getting some kind of water in charge tube when it was cold and when truck would start it was jerky for a bit .
they said it was the only one in there shop doing that but u know that was bs
 

snowsdog1

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I have a 2013 Eco, Crew cab, 6 1/2' box, 4x4, 331 gear. Purchased late December 2012, I have 26,000 plus miles and have had no issues with the truck. Pulling a two place with a third in the back of the truck I averaged just over 9 MPG's, A month ago pulled a 26' open tandem axel with a ranger crew and two 4 wheelers and averaged 14.5, but my average empty is only in the mid 16 mpg range. The 22 MPG advertised of course is the 2 wheel drive at an 45mph average speed.

The issue as I read it was that some of the Eco boost trucks (2012 and older) in wet conditions at mild temps while cruising for a significant period of time were having power loss issues when they would try to accelerate to pass. Ford has said the issue was with moisture build up in the intercooler and had been replacing them with a re-design unit. Did not see feed back on those that had the repair done if it corrected the problem. Did not hear any issue with it taking out turbos.
 

Skylar

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They all suck once one starts pulling a trailer. I believe Scottikings Ram 1500 crew cab 4x4 with the hemi can get 20-21 mpg's, not pulling anything, from Minneapolis to Twin lakes. That is pretty dang good.
 

luke_duke

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In my opinion you would be pushing the capabilities of the suspension and braking system with a fully loaded 27' inline behind an explorer. The engine might be up for it but under extreme braking or maneuvers you might feel your shorts getting full.

I kinda figured that the shorter wheelbase could be a drawback. I don't plan on using it at all but wanted to see if it was an option if needed. On a sidenote, I rode in my buds Range Rover Sport and he pulled this trailer setup to the UP on 2 occasions in 1 year quite impressively even though it's wheelbase is 115 inches compared to the 108" the Explorer would be(still a lot less than a truck). I was more than impressed how it would pull though...that motor was a beast. The only reason we took it was because I didn't have a truck at the time and he just sold his, so that was the only option we had.
 
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indy_500

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They all suck once one starts pulling a trailer. I believe Scottikings Ram 1500 crew cab 4x4 with the hemi can get 20-21 mpg's, not pulling anything, from Minneapolis to Twin lakes. That is pretty dang good.

My. 05 stock got 18-19 hwy but with the new tires and lift ehhhh not so much
 
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