But our economy won't. The longer this goes on, the longer it will take to recover.
I have a question to both naysayers and sayers
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But our economy won't. The longer this goes on, the longer it will take to recover.
As for FOX, Ingraham, and T jr. anymore, good luck with that!
snobuilder
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In bold....why?...was there another big wreck on the freeway?....it sure isn't the 50 ppl who have a cold.
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This is just another cold.
We all have been through the cold and flu season before.
This is a time where all should be gathering in protest.
If we don't, we still send an equally powerful message.
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The economy has been destroyed. Over nothing.
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Amazing the liberal left has most of the cards. They control most media outlets. But they continue to misplay those cards. Funny actually.
eagle1
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So I have a question......How many people do you need to see get sick or die before you want to see some kind of action taken?? Are you going to complain If you become sick and need medical care but hospitals are full or medical staff is too short and no one to care for you?
Is this overreaction... probably.....but isn't better safe than sorry?
Is this overreaction... probably.....but isn't better safe than sorry?
There's actually a World wide shortage of some surgical textiles at the moment, starting even before COVID-19. Hospitals are scrambling, and in some cases, they can't get the PPE their employees need. This will continue through the end of the year before supplies recover.
I would personally like to avoid going to the hospital for COVID-19, if healthcare professionals aren't there to treat me because there is no PPE for them to protect themselves.
This is absolutely a real concern, and it will be interesting to see how bad this gets before PPE supply stock recovers.
I would personally like to avoid going to the hospital for COVID-19, if healthcare professionals aren't there to treat me because there is no PPE for them to protect themselves.
This is absolutely a real concern, and it will be interesting to see how bad this gets before PPE supply stock recovers.
Midwest Player
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The mortality rate for the seasonal flu is around .1% not .01% as John mentioned. However, this still makes the coronavirus 10 times more deadly than the regular flu which is nothing to sneeze at. I can't believe all the macho folks here that think this is nothing worse than a cold.
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So apparently (click →) President Trump will will now use the WW2 era Defense Production Act to force manufacturers to produce the necessary medical supplies, as was done with aircraft and tank production for the war.
tealracing16
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It's because it affects them and nothing makes a boomer mad than something affecting them personally. I've been thinking for a long time how millennials get blamed for the me me me but it's times like this the over 50 crowd are the ones complaining about how it affects them personally. I'm still working and will be until we get shut down. That doesn't mean I'm licking door knobs.
For most people who get the SARS-CoV-2 virus, it is nothing more than a cold. And since they are likely thousands of people who had the virus and were never treated for it, the mortality rate is probably below 1%, and might not be any worse than the common flu.
This panic and lockdown might be causing more long-term harm than if we did nothing at all (other than tell high-risk individuals to stay home). By not allowing healthy people to be exposed to it, we are not building herd immunity, which will set the stage for a second wave in the fall.
I have to laugh...News media now posting confirmed cases like some kind of score board, what a joke. I have news for all of you selfish doomsday preppers out there that are clearing the shelves of food and supplies that common sense people need to feed their families on a daily basis... HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU DONT HAVE IT???? or your kids, husband or neighbors, have you watched the news are you that oblivious??? we are not testing other that at risk people and you have to be prescreened to be tested, you may have it and not even know it for 2 weeks or may not even know you have it at all, the score board is just a Bullsh** number of mostly at risk people who have it, not real numbers people!! One major manufacturing plant shut down because 1 person tested positive, would someone please explain to me how this makes sense when for all we know 50% of the general public may have it but we will never know that for sure because 80% or more of the general public don't fall under that "at risk" population. Meanwhile we are closing or limiting capacities (which might as well say close) at bars, resturants putting people out of work, and now expanding to manufacturing and who knows what. Then you have the wisdom filled local governments asking people to continue to support these businesses that they closed by getting carry out, Ive got news for you...if people aren't working they aren't spending money, we will likely loose a lot of small business as a result of serious overreaction. I figured I would go to grocery store at open this morning only to find out just as busy as a Saturday when other times there may be half a dozen cars in lot, I went inside and I now know when the hoarders are shopping, one person probably had a dozen loaves of bread of all kinds in their cart and as I walked by I had to ask..."are you going to eat all that?" just got a look, COME ON PEOPLE!. State announced also that they are going to rewrite unemployment guidelines not requiring people to have to look for other work, the only people this is a clear benefit is to those that have been living off unemployment for way too long already, because lets face it up until now if you don't have a job you just don't want to work for the most part, How about extending the time to have to repay taxes on the unemployment benefits, and not penalizing the employer by raising their unemployment insurance rates since im sure 90% or more of the businesses that are closed would have rather stayed open. If we are only testing at risk people, we are essentially telling the largest group of the population to ride it out, why the heck are we penalizing society, businesses, world economy and finances because of the "at risk population" ? Its not that I don't care about the at risk people but hundreds of thousands of people die each year from the flu virus. doesn't anyone realize what this overreaction is doing to what keeps this world moving??? PATHETIC I'M SORRY then you had the person on the news who complained how uncomfortable the test was pushing a swab up her news that made her eyes water and forced her to sneeze!! how stupid! Before some accuses me of not caring about the at risk people... I am one of those since I was 27 I have had 2 heart surgeries, I have had 2 strokes in the last 5 years and I take a slew of medications each and every day yet I am not walking around in this "BUBBLE" or living in it, what happens...happens, you aren't going to stop it.
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uncle_ed
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I am over 60 but in good health and will still do my part to remain healthy since even though ive had a good life i still have way more to do. Not doing my part and not making an attempt to stop the spread by staying healthy would be SELFISH since getting covid-19 I could potentially spread it to others and that is what is not fair. Just trying to think of others a bit more lately.
The problem I have with the mortality comparison, which is a major factor is the testing. The current Covid-19 rate should be followed by "OF THE PATIENTS WHO HAVE BEN TESTED". the flu test is readily available and widely administered. the Covid-19 test so far has been primarily only approved for "at risk" patients. If mostly at risk patients are only being the mortality rate is obviously going to be higher. When the testing becomes widespread and healthy people are testing positive, the rate will go down. Not saying it's nothing to worry about, just that even the percentages can be inaccurate without all details. Just reported yesterday, 99% of all Italy deaths have been in "at risk" population.
Has anyone on the site been tested for Covid-19?
snowdance
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Italy had 475 deaths Yesterday (Wednesday) up from 345 the day before. Up 40% in one day. Yes, Italy is more densely populated, but still this is serious. The US I believe is a couple weeks behind Italy. This is what is trying to be prevented. Learning from what has already happened elsewhere. Look at the statistics on the link below.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
Yes, and here's a more detailed breakdown of the deaths. If too long to read, the graphs tell the story -
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says
dfattack
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Ask that same question about the regular flu
People overreacting.... have you seen Black Friday? Discussion about basic religion or politics? It’s human nature to overreact (there’s a specific term for it that I cannot remember) and when you throw the potential for health issues from something new, something unknown it’s no surprise (to me) people react as they do.
when discussing mortality rates or issue that have negative consequences I also think to a specific statement ...... it’s only stats and numbers til it’s one of your family members or friends.
when discussing mortality rates or issue that have negative consequences I also think to a specific statement ...... it’s only stats and numbers til it’s one of your family members or friends.