I have a question to both naysayers and sayers
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Of course if it is approved by the FDA for any medical purpose, then any physician may prescribe it fir virtually any other medical purpose. It’s called (click →) Wickedypedia: Off-label use. And it’s generally legal.
Fir virtually FRNASH......here
Firs (Abies) are a genus of 48–56 species of evergreen coniferous trees in the family Pinaceae. They are found through much of North and Central America, Europe, Asia, and North Africa, occurring in mountains over most of the range. Firs are most closely related to the genus Cedrus (cedar).
Just so we can move on
"This web page provides estimates on the burden of influenza in the United States for the 2018–2019 influenza season."
"Conclusion
CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses, more than 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season. This burden was similar to estimated burden during the 2012–2013 influenza season1."
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html
That is for the United States and not sure how they calculate the season, it says 2018-2019 influenza season.
"This web page provides estimates on the burden of influenza in the United States for the 2018–2019 influenza season."
"Conclusion
CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses, more than 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season. This burden was similar to estimated burden during the 2012–2013 influenza season1."
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html
That is for the United States and not sure how they calculate the season, it says 2018-2019 influenza season.
Very good there Tracker. However chloroquine is made from the bark of trees from the Cinchona genus, and so is quinine. Now where is my gin and quinine water, I mean tonic. Dang malaria skeeters, I mean covid. I don't know if it is done anymore, but the tonic water button on a soda gun in a bar used to be identified by the letter Q for quinine.
Oooooh, ya catched me with a typo! “Fir” sure!
At “fir”st I failed to get yer point; I thought perhaps you were referring to Abies spectabilis (East Himalayan fir) or Talispatra, which is used as an anti-tussive (cough suppressant) drug, which would have at least had a vague connection with the subject at hand.
I even had a fleeting thought that perhaps you were referring to some traditional healing practices of the Sámi people of Lapland/Northern Finland, some of which I’ve heard of, but only vaguely. But firs are not commonly found in Finland; the closest is Norway Spruce (Picea abies), and the following other conifers:
• Scots Pine (Pinus sylvestris)
• Common juniper (Juniperus communis)
• European yew (Taxus baccata)
(Apparently united interpreted your post similarly.)
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Au contraire...I am alot smarter than you give me credit for
People use fir for the common cold, cough, swelling (inflammation) of the main airways in the lung (bronchitis), and sore throat, but there is no good scientific evidence to support these uses.
Pine trees are useful for more than just climbing and creating chores for your grandkids. They’re also an excellent source of food and medicine.
People use fir for the common cold, cough, swelling (inflammation) of the main airways in the lung (bronchitis), and sore throat, but there is no good scientific evidence to support these uses.
Pine trees are useful for more than just climbing and creating chores for your grandkids. They’re also an excellent source of food and medicine.
FOX needs to be added also.
All news stations suck. They no longer can report on ANYTHING with dramatizing or sensationalizing it. Never waste a good crisis!
Agree, X2!
The last time I checked, Fox doesn't make a habit of referring to something harmless Trump said as a "dangerous statement."
So what? They don't all go to the hospital at once.
I agree, I remember when Lawyers used to be called Ambulance chasers, looking for ways to make money off someone elses pain!
TV News stations seem to have no shame in asking folks that were just in a disaster or life altering terrible circumstance, personal questions and will blow up even small details as if there major things!
ALL to make it seem like reporters are , telling something we ALL Much know!
all for ratings
they need shock value to make nonsense seem important!
or again, pray on innocent people just so they can get a STORY , most times about nothing!
news any more is more about advertising, than giving accurate valuable info that can help anyone! IMO!
I personally seldom watch it anymore, minus, checking the weather, which is almost always WRONG!, seems were all suckers for this too, as what other job can you be wrong so often and keep it!
I seen my local weather person, tell on the local TV channel,say, it was going to be 55 and snowing??
REALLY< snowing and 55 degree's
and with a straight face as if he was right!
even repeated the same forecast later in the day!
and guess what, HE was wrong LOL
YES TV news is a lot of BS anymore IMO!, sad so many are brain wash into watching it giving them ratings to make them THINK there doing a good job!
TV News stations seem to have no shame in asking folks that were just in a disaster or life altering terrible circumstance, personal questions and will blow up even small details as if there major things!
ALL to make it seem like reporters are , telling something we ALL Much know!
all for ratings
they need shock value to make nonsense seem important!
or again, pray on innocent people just so they can get a STORY , most times about nothing!
news any more is more about advertising, than giving accurate valuable info that can help anyone! IMO!
I personally seldom watch it anymore, minus, checking the weather, which is almost always WRONG!, seems were all suckers for this too, as what other job can you be wrong so often and keep it!
I seen my local weather person, tell on the local TV channel,say, it was going to be 55 and snowing??
REALLY< snowing and 55 degree's
and with a straight face as if he was right!
even repeated the same forecast later in the day!
and guess what, HE was wrong LOL
YES TV news is a lot of BS anymore IMO!, sad so many are brain wash into watching it giving them ratings to make them THINK there doing a good job!
dfattack
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I usually have a problem with the "all politicians are corrupt" and "all this and that". Not directing at you Skylar.
All politicians aren't corrupt. There are good and bad people in every area of our lives, neighbors, co-workers, politicians, family, etc.
I usually cannot watch any of the major networks and left wing cable news networks and really only watch FOX. Since this China virus came to our shores even FOX was bothering me with the constant coverage which instills fear in most people's minds. Just covering it alone will do that. They have been guilty (my opinion) of the sensationalism on this one too. One area where FOX stands out against ALL the other networks is they don't participate in the constant attack on the President. It's out of control and the country realizes it. That's why there are record turnouts at the primary races in the states so far and he doesn't have a challenger. That's remarkable. I don't want to break the rules and get political here as I respect all of those who support Sanders, Biden or whoever. No problem with that.
I just recently noticed some of the anchors/hosts at Fox starting to focus more on positive story lines and other ways to instill hope into the viewers. I think this is necessary to do since we are going to come out of this and need to obviously take precautions now but focus on where we are going. We dress for where we are going right? Not where we were. We need to start focusing on 2 weeks from now, 4 weeks from now and how we are NOT going to over react like this next winter when the regular flu hits. By the Government's new standard we need to go through this shut down every year going forward if you want to use the stats as stated previously in this thread for the regular flu versus the China virus. That (this) method is not sustainable and we not only as a country, but the world cannot go through this every year.
All politicians aren't corrupt. There are good and bad people in every area of our lives, neighbors, co-workers, politicians, family, etc.
I usually cannot watch any of the major networks and left wing cable news networks and really only watch FOX. Since this China virus came to our shores even FOX was bothering me with the constant coverage which instills fear in most people's minds. Just covering it alone will do that. They have been guilty (my opinion) of the sensationalism on this one too. One area where FOX stands out against ALL the other networks is they don't participate in the constant attack on the President. It's out of control and the country realizes it. That's why there are record turnouts at the primary races in the states so far and he doesn't have a challenger. That's remarkable. I don't want to break the rules and get political here as I respect all of those who support Sanders, Biden or whoever. No problem with that.
I just recently noticed some of the anchors/hosts at Fox starting to focus more on positive story lines and other ways to instill hope into the viewers. I think this is necessary to do since we are going to come out of this and need to obviously take precautions now but focus on where we are going. We dress for where we are going right? Not where we were. We need to start focusing on 2 weeks from now, 4 weeks from now and how we are NOT going to over react like this next winter when the regular flu hits. By the Government's new standard we need to go through this shut down every year going forward if you want to use the stats as stated previously in this thread for the regular flu versus the China virus. That (this) method is not sustainable and we not only as a country, but the world cannot go through this every year.
I am not up on prescription drugs but I assume we are referring to the drug treatment for malaria that has been shown in some real life testing to help with covid-19? I know someone who takes this drug for arthritis with results and from what I understand there is little danger from taking this drug, I dont understand why we have to wait for another government entity to say this can be used for treatment for covid-19 if it is a FDA approved drug to begin with, I guess even if it helps even in the smallest form isn't this better than what we have now? I have stage 3 degenerative disc disease and during times of flare up they prescribe me a medication that is intended for patients that suffer from siezures. Look at all the drugs that were FDA approved widely prescribed that you see on commercials that are now known to cause cancer, and when you hear all the side effects of drugs some fatal including increased risk of or thoughts of suicide why would you want to take those? i just don't get it. I had also heard that one of the worst things to take if you have covid-19 is anything with ibuprofin because if you have the virus it can react with it creating another enzyme which will increase the severity of the virus, don't know if this is true as I only heard this once on talk radio but if it is why aren''t we warning people about it?
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How can anyone watch FOX news for more than five minutes without feeling like throwing up.
so what??? they don't go to hospital all at once??? so if all these people showed up at hospital at one time we would take notice to something that kills up to 650,000 people a year? and because they don't its ok and there is no reason for us to react as we are now? so basically since the flu "Virus" kills gradually there is no need for alarm? and this occurs year after year after year, just think how much smaller the number could be if we reacted in the same way....or should I say overreacted.
I will admit I was a fox news watcher until this came about and the final draw was when bars and restaurants were ordered to close and they made themselves the police to this order and sent out their anchor people out to find out who was and who wasn't following the order and then making a news story about the one they found who didn't, i hope they were proud of themselves and I have to laugh though when they interviewed the owner, his response was that of which im sure was the opinion of most level headed people. Fox news...no thanks!
dfattack
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I heard the same thing about ibuprofin. Apparently the malaria drug (not sure how to spell that name) has shown good results when used along with the Zithromycin (not sure on the spelling) otherwise known as a zpak. They are currently using this and I believe I heard in one study this combination worked in 15 of 20 patients. Trump will move this along if it's successful.