This... The polaris 650 is an amazng sled and one that I am seriously considering. Ski doo could have matched or beat polaris in that market. I have a ski doo 850 mxz xrs, great sled and no complaints. But, I can rip a 650 in the trails almost as fast as my 850 ski doo, although the ski doo throttle response is just better. I could care less of top end lake racing, my grandma can ride fast in a straight line....who cant do that. But, I can pick up a lightly used 650 for $11,000 instead of the steep xrs price. And, although polaris electric start sounds like a kindergartner with marbels made it, it still has a pull start unlike my ski doo...and yeah, that was a lot of fun wrapping the cord around the clutch at Omars (yeah i use old names) in 40 MPH wind and cold. The 650 market is where its at cause lets be serious, 98% of all seldders dont come close to maximizing the power and potential of their sleds....more show, than go...Guess I will wait again til next year.