Paulding Light

chords

Active member
I'm hoping the conditions are right ...


Well ya's wont have to worry about the MoonShine muckin' up your viewing !

Nice graph nash

MOON - Sat April 10

Moonset 3:01 p.m. on preceding day
Moonrise 4:33 a.m.
Moon transit 10:13 a.m.
Moonset 4:05 p.m.
Moonrise 4:51 a.m. on following day​

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frnash

Active member
Well ya's wont have to worry about the MoonShine muckin' up your viewing!
Well maybe yes and maybe no.
Are you including any "adult beverages" (Ol' homemade "moonshine", perhaps?) in your "toolkit" for the great "Paulding Experiment"? There's a chance that "moonshine" might "muck up yer viewin'"! (Either that, or maybe enhance it!) :D

Oh, and I almost forgot: Excellent find, matti! I hadn't seen the spooklight site before. It seems to be a fairly accurate analysis. 'Tho I must say, that is a darned stoopid choice of font color on a black background for legibility, eh?

Added 10:00AM MST (1:00PM EDT):
Speaking about the spooklight web site, be sure to visit Spooklights main page as well, for more excellent discussion of various visual phenomena, notably the discussion of superior mirages, and further links as well.

Ball lightning was incidentally mentioned there as well. Now that's a phenomenon that I have personally witnessed in my home, no less, during a thunderstorm. 'Twas a soccer ball size glowing sphere, spinning and whirling around the room, suspended at about five feet above the floor for several seconds before dissipating. I also lost a modem card and multi-function I/O board in my computer at the time due to effects of the thunderstorm. I have also observed St. Elmo's fire in the arc of my propeller tips while flying through southern New Mexico with isolated thunderstorm cells 20 to 30 miles from the airway. I have indeed also observed superior mirages many decades ago, in the vicinity of an inversion layer, likewise inferior mirages, such as the "pools of water on the road" in the desert. Such inversions can develop in low areas, depressions, river valleys and the like under the right weather conditions, as the cooler air settles into the depressions with warmer air above. Could that occur in various of the river/creek valleys and depressions along the Paulding Light line of sight? It's certainly not out of the question.

See more here about superior mirages in particular (from a link at the Spooklights main page): The Superior Mirage: Seeing Beyond. The Arctic Mirage mentioned there is a very tempting phenomena in the case some of the Paulding Light "sightings":
Arctic-type mirages are not confined only to regions north of 60 degrees latitude, however. Robert Greenler in his book Rainbows, Haloes and Glories reported on one interesting situation of superior mirage viewing on the night of 26 April 1977. When the residents of Grand Haven, Michigan looked westward that night across the relatively cold waters of Lake Michigan, they distinctly saw city lights and a flashing red beacon. But the nearest urban area westward from them was Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 120 km (75 miles) away, well below the geometric horizon and thus normally not visible. Their sightings were later confirmed to have been Milwaukee when a Grand Haven resident timed the blink rate of the flashing red light and linked it to the Milwaukee Harbor entrance beacon. (US Weather Service records also confirm that strong inversion conditions were indeed present that night.) The unseeable had indeed briefly become visible.
 
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mrsrunningbear

Active member
Can’t tell ya how much fun a couple of bored yoopers are having during down time when there’s nothing to do…and yup love the light…and we book people every day who are coming to see it so I know it will live on. Met some new friends in the lennys….and gonna meet a few more next weekend……can’t wait to sit around a campfire and tell stories about the old mystery light and …lol…this thread. Some have put a whole lot of work into this and its gonna be fun to talk about for years to come…..and aren’t we gonna have fun listening to the other people viewing the light….knowing all we do……good times….new friends and a Party at the Running Bear!!!!!!!

And we’ll make it official next weekend…. but I think a gaggle of friends will be riding in Paulding

PS i still believe
 

thunderstruck88

New member
Hey ya'll Motel 6 always leaves a light on for you ummmmm wondering if BIGFOOT has gone into that business to lol flick your bics and I hope the light of the world shines upon you all Have a great night :) also got a vision of those tightie whites :rolleyes: lol THINK SNOW and Rock and ROLL :p
 
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lenny

Guest
sorry....work is work.....well ya better stop in and see us....so we know when to flip the switch for you...lol...love to meet you and your wife (she will be by then).....curiosity kills the cat doesn’t it....and ITS NOT HEADLIGHTS (sorry that was for lenny..:eek: ) at least all the lights...cause I've been thinkin all along theres different lights


I think you should get green and blue lights so when you flip the switch were all freaked out, watch ya think?
 
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lenny

Guest
Lots of people viewing the light tonight. I stayed for about 35 minutes and saw 8 cars come and go. Talked to a couple that was from 4 hrs away and asked about colors. They said they have seen green but not to often. Didn't see anything different than I have ever seen, gonna go one more time before the big bash.
 

mrsrunningbear

Active member
Lots of people viewing the light tonight. I stayed for about 35 minutes and saw 8 cars come and go. Talked to a couple that was from 4 hrs away and asked about colors. They said they have seen green but not to often. Didn't see anything different than I have ever seen, gonna go one more time before the big bash.

Hmmmm :confused: the green light mentioned again....
 
there are no specific references to the "Paulding lights" on that website, at least under the searches I did. I want to read about indians refering to the Paulding lights

well the entire AREA is so named by indians BECAUSE OF THE PAULDING LIGHT....way before any car lights.....you all from WISCONSINNY should know this thats fer sure

Lac du Flambeau Ojibwe
The Lac du Flambeau band of Ojibwe resides in north central Wisconsin, stretching across Vilas and Iron counties. According to the tribe's history, the legendary Chief Keeshkemun led his band to this area in 1745 by the light of a flaming torch, thus named the Lake of the Torches, or Lac du Flambeau.
 
and another

"One night long ago a Menominee Indian dreamed that Manabush, a past founder of the Mitawin or Medicine Society; invited him to visit the god. With several of his friends the indian called on Manabush who granted their request to make them successful hunters. One of the band, however angered Manabush by asking for eternal life. Manabush, seizing the warrior by the shoulders, thrust him to the ground and said, "You shall be a stone, thus you will be everlasting." The Menominee say at night kindly spirits come to lay offerings of tobacco at the rock and if one looks closely he can see white veils among the trees. The legend is that when the rock finally crumbles away, the race will be extinct."
 
very interesting....references go way back

Myths and Legends



A Menomini myth of the origin of their tribe states that, “in the mystic past the Great Under-ground Bear and its mate came out of the earth near the mouth of the Menomini river and there assumed human guise, becoming the tribal ancestors. Later they were joined by the Thunderers, the beaver, black bear, crane, wolf, bald eagle and others,” also in human form. From these mythical animals the members of each gens are descended. They have come to believe that the actual animals were their fore-fathers. (Material Culture of the Menomini, p. 46).

“The daughter of Noko-mis, the Earth, is the mother of Ma-nabush, who is also the Fire. The Flint grew up out of Noko-mis, and was alone. Then Flint made a bowl and dipped it into the earth; slowly the bowlful of earth became blood, and it began to change its form. So the blood was changed into Wabus, the Rabbit. The Rabbit grew into human form, and in time became a man, and thus was Ma-nabush formed. Ma-nabush was angry because he was alone on the earth; and because his enemies, the ana-maq0ki-u, who dwelt beneath the earth, were constantly annoying him and trying to destroy him.” (12 B.A.E., p. 87).

He prepared a weapon by shaping an axe out of a piece of flint. This he rubbed on the surface of a rock to smooth and sharpen it. He was joined by Moquai-o, the Wolf, who became his brother. He was drowned while hunting in crossing the ice of a lake. Thereafter Ma-nabush built a large fire to which were guided by its light, his uncles and aunts, who were also children of Noko-mis. Thus he was no longer alone. Ma-nabush, the culture hero of the Menomini, had many interesting adventures after that.



http://www.mainstreet-marketplace.com/pages/Books2/waupaca chain o' lakes.htm
 
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lenny

Guest
very interesting....references go way back

Myths and Legends



A Menomini myth of the origin of their tribe states that, “in the mystic past the Great Under-ground Bear and its mate came out of the earth near the mouth of the Menomini river and there assumed human guise, becoming the tribal ancestors. Later they were joined by the Thunderers, the beaver, black bear, crane, wolf, bald eagle and others,” also in human form. From these mythical animals the members of each gens are descended. They have come to believe that the actual animals were their fore-fathers. (Material Culture of the Menomini, p. 46).

“The daughter of Noko-mis, the Earth, is the mother of Ma-nabush, who is also the Fire. The Flint grew up out of Noko-mis, and was alone. Then Flint made a bowl and dipped it into the earth; slowly the bowlful of earth became blood, and it began to change its form. So the blood was changed into Wabus, the Rabbit. The Rabbit grew into human form, and in time became a man, and thus was Ma-nabush formed. Ma-nabush was angry because he was alone on the earth; and because his enemies, the ana-maq0ki-u, who dwelt beneath the earth, were constantly annoying him and trying to destroy him.” (12 B.A.E., p. 87).

He prepared a weapon by shaping an axe out of a piece of flint. This he rubbed on the surface of a rock to smooth and sharpen it. He was joined by Moquai-o, the Wolf, who became his brother. He was drowned while hunting in crossing the ice of a lake. Thereafter Ma-nabush built a large fire to which were guided by its light, his uncles and aunts, who were also children of Noko-mis. Thus he was no longer alone. Ma-nabush, the culture hero of the Menomini, had many interesting adventures after that.



http://www.mainstreet-marketplace.com/pages/Books2/waupaca chain o' lakes.htm


with all due respect, that's a load of crap. Myths are fun I will say!
 

mrsrunningbear

Active member
the darn light is making us do crazy things...lol...bear and I ran to Bruce and on the way back we get to this certain spot in the road..…oh yeah again....that’s right the “sweet spot” I’m not paying as much attention to our location as he obviously was cause all of a sudden he turns off the headlights…yup I reacted like most women “WHATS WITH THE LIGHTS” he says we’re the "Mystery Light".…lmao….he drives thru the sweet spot lights off….on…off…on the whole way….lol…lol…this whole headlight thing...???!!??..look what pr1 started!!...lol
 
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lenny

Guest
the darn light is making us do crazy things...lol...bear and I ran to Bruce and on the way back we get to this certain spot in the road..…oh yeah again....that’s right the “sweet spot” I’m not paying as much attention to our location as he obviously was cause all of a sudden he turns off the headlights…yup I reacted like most women “WHATS WITH THE LIGHTS” he says we’re the "Mystery Light".…lmao….he drives thru the sweet spot lights off….on…off…on the whole way….lol…lol…this whole headlight thing...???!!??..look what pr1 started!!...lol


now that there is some funny stuff.
 
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