I hear you but some people just don't take well to getting hit with the common sense stick.
Snowmobiling trip verses bar hopping
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I hear you but some people just don't take well to getting hit with the common sense stick.
In my 29 years of riding I have had my share of close calls with other sleds....90% of those were during the day. Much safer when you can see a headlight coming.
propjockey
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Propjockey...
You know this is the great thing about America. You can speak your mind and post at will.
Just make sure you leave you password for your account on here for your family. In the event something happens to you on the trail...I'm sure they will get a 'hoot' out of you last post.
Thats right, it may be the same thing time after time...but just like the guy who lost a buddy riding, I doubt you would have the balls to make that phone call to a friends wife and tell her, her hubbys not coming home because we 'had' one to many.
I have had to make death notifications in my prior work experience. It is without a doubt the worst call I had to take. You may feel bad for the family, rightfully so, but there are a whole host of other people involved. First respomders, EMS, fire personel, police... the list goes on, just because you had to have just one more. These people day in and day out, mostley volunteers, respond to these calls on a moments notice. And for what...to see that some just had to have 'one more'.
I'm sure it took you some time to come up with the graphic you posted....just think if you took a fraction of that time you wasted to say, 'lets wait till we'r done riding to drink'...
Dog (aka DeputyDog)
You know this is the great thing about America. You can speak your mind and post at will.
Just make sure you leave you password for your account on here for your family. In the event something happens to you on the trail...I'm sure they will get a 'hoot' out of you last post.
Thats right, it may be the same thing time after time...but just like the guy who lost a buddy riding, I doubt you would have the balls to make that phone call to a friends wife and tell her, her hubbys not coming home because we 'had' one to many.
I have had to make death notifications in my prior work experience. It is without a doubt the worst call I had to take. You may feel bad for the family, rightfully so, but there are a whole host of other people involved. First respomders, EMS, fire personel, police... the list goes on, just because you had to have just one more. These people day in and day out, mostley volunteers, respond to these calls on a moments notice. And for what...to see that some just had to have 'one more'.
I'm sure it took you some time to come up with the graphic you posted....just think if you took a fraction of that time you wasted to say, 'lets wait till we'r done riding to drink'...
Dog (aka DeputyDog)
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Really?? Was this necessary...
I finally broke down and read this thread, a lot of things being said good & bad but this comment from bryant seemed to bother me a bit. He goes on to CAPITALIZE his first line to in effect don't blame "MY STATE" but then turns around and goes on the attack of IL, it probably got to me due to the "you really don't want me to start".
Maybe I took it wrong or maybe the presentation was a little harsh due to the subject matter/feelings involved, but I've seen people making "azzes" of themselves from all states. His post did not do much for me to understand his point of view due to quick attacking comeback.
I have read a lot of posts from bryant and do not recall ever seeing something like this so I'm chalking it up to subject matter....
propjockey
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Take it easy Dog. The "Dead horse" graphic was a reference to this thread in general, or one very similar to it, appearing EVERY single year since I've been poking around this website (eight years +).
Is alcohol really a big problem? Yes. Maybe. Probably. Not at all.....Who can truly say? Accidents are exactly that...ACCIDENTS. Whether you're drunk or not, they still happen. Obviously, the majority of all snowmobile accidents that are alcohol related are the ones we hear about. How many THOUSANDS of accidents happen that we don't hear about that are non-alcohol related? I've witnessed, more than once, people who were not drinking, but yet, managed to wreck IN THE SAME PARKING LOT THAT THEY JUST UNLOADED THEIR SLED IN!
I am, by no means, condoning drinking and riding. I am just pointing out "other views" that should be considered. Who's more dangerous..... Somebody on the trail that has had two or three beers during the day, or a twenty-something year old beat off who just finished watching a sno-cross race and is riding WAY outside the envelope of his abilities? There are many people that assume it's safer to ride in the first half of the day because there are less "drunks" on the trail. While this may be true, we prefer to ride in the second half of the day because we feel more comfortable seeing the oncoming headlights. I've had more than a few close calls during the day that wouldn't have been an issue if there was nice, bright halogen pointed my direction in the dark. To each, his own.
As far as "not having the balls to call a buddy's wife because we had one too many", that, to me, is an oxymoron. I've written off more than a few "friends" in the past BECAUSE they party too much when they ride. I ride with responsible adults who know when they've had enough. I truly can't remember the last time I said to a fellow riding buddy "Are you SURE you're okay to ride?" If you ever find yourself in that position, I suggest you reassess your list of so called friends. A true friend would never put you in that position in the first place. You can always choose to not ride with a person in your group that you feel may cause harm or danger to themselves or others. If you succumb to peer pressure and choose not to, that's your fault, no one else's and you SHOULD call his wife because YOU might have been able to prevent it. PERIOD.
The snowmobile trail is not that indifferent from a public road. They both will always have drivers who are dangerous for many reasons. Be it alcohol, drugs, inexperience, age, in relation to reaction time, the list goes on and on.
In the end, ride within your abilities, always remember that ANYTHING can happen when you ride (whether you are drunk or not) and always anticipate that there will be a family on sleds coming around the next corner. Seems like a fairly simple way to ride eh?
Until prohibition rears its ugly head again, the drinking and riding will continue no matter how vigilant it's patrolled.
So save the drama for your mama and lead by example instead of with your tongue.
-J-
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yooper_man
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You should look at it has a learning experience. I for one don’t like ridding with big groups. Because it’s harder to stick together, I am usually the last one in our group. I don’t mind tagging along in the back. I have really bad side vision. So I take it slow, I don’t really like going much faster then 50-60. When we stop I stick to pop, because alcohol doesn’t mix with my medication to well. So I know my limitations on it. Everyone else in the group does drink but, they mostly stick to beer, and we always make sure to eat something at one of the stops.
Deadhorse??..
Well I've read this subject too many times and still see so many of the same results. Is that insanity? If I read it over and over and hopefully somebody just might get it together that to drink and drive is NOT responsible.
Accidents happen.....drinking or not!!..I say at least by NOT being impaired by having that one or two even with a burger or steak, I am sober and could help the person that had the "accident"(that just" happened")(insert sarcasm).
Last year posting to this thread I got so worked up by people claiming it was their "choice" to have a drink,that I could not even read some of the responses that were screaming of their own denial of any problem.
Please,I mean it,Please, save your drinking for back at the lodge,cabin ,or wherever you have a sober person to drive you home.
Accidents do happen, but how many can be prevented?
Being responsible would be to NOT drink and drive. I understand some people's theory of being a "responsible" drinker, however by having one or two and saying that you're being responsible by not having another is hogwash. You just enabled yourself into thinking it's OK! And it goes on from there.
'Nuff said. Flame Away!
Well I've read this subject too many times and still see so many of the same results. Is that insanity? If I read it over and over and hopefully somebody just might get it together that to drink and drive is NOT responsible.
Accidents happen.....drinking or not!!..I say at least by NOT being impaired by having that one or two even with a burger or steak, I am sober and could help the person that had the "accident"(that just" happened")(insert sarcasm).
Last year posting to this thread I got so worked up by people claiming it was their "choice" to have a drink,that I could not even read some of the responses that were screaming of their own denial of any problem.
Please,I mean it,Please, save your drinking for back at the lodge,cabin ,or wherever you have a sober person to drive you home.
Accidents do happen, but how many can be prevented?
Being responsible would be to NOT drink and drive. I understand some people's theory of being a "responsible" drinker, however by having one or two and saying that you're being responsible by not having another is hogwash. You just enabled yourself into thinking it's OK! And it goes on from there.
'Nuff said. Flame Away!
michaeladams
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i have the solution,lets start prohibition all over again.untill it is outlawed this thread is beating a dead horse and creating a bad atmosphere on here
Age old debate.
How bout them loud cans?
Why cant people stay on the right side of the trail?
Night time speed limit?
What sled is fastest?
Hand signals?
Same ol' shazz, different year.
Go ride, and have fun. If the people you ride with make you mad, stop riding with them. Personal responsibility trumps all, some just do not have any.
Just watch out for me on the trails. I may stop in the woods at the end of the day and have a couple cold ones before riding the last few miles back to town. Many of you all may have a problem with this. No skin of my back. Wont ride with me because of it? Fine. At the end of they day, we all have to live with the decisions we make and the possible consiquences of our actions. I know I can have a few and still be a responsible rider. The last thing I need is to hear about how I am a bad person for drinking a beer, and riding down a trail. If you choose to not have a beer, I am fine with that. However, if i choose to have a beer, and ride my snowmobile, I am an irresponsible rider according to many, regardless of my behavior and actions with that oh so tasty beer in my belly.
Who is more responsible?
The guy that does not drink, and pushes the limits for 150 miles a day on 2 way wooded trails?
The guy who just drank 2 beers and is heading back to town driving at a easy pace hugging the right side of the trail (and rode the same way that morning and all day long - beer free -)?
There is no single way to accomplish or define responsibility on a snowmobile. It is the sum of all of your actions throughout the course of the day, and the amount of beers you have had to drink is only one portion of that equation.
How bout them loud cans?
Why cant people stay on the right side of the trail?
Night time speed limit?
What sled is fastest?
Hand signals?
Same ol' shazz, different year.
Go ride, and have fun. If the people you ride with make you mad, stop riding with them. Personal responsibility trumps all, some just do not have any.
Just watch out for me on the trails. I may stop in the woods at the end of the day and have a couple cold ones before riding the last few miles back to town. Many of you all may have a problem with this. No skin of my back. Wont ride with me because of it? Fine. At the end of they day, we all have to live with the decisions we make and the possible consiquences of our actions. I know I can have a few and still be a responsible rider. The last thing I need is to hear about how I am a bad person for drinking a beer, and riding down a trail. If you choose to not have a beer, I am fine with that. However, if i choose to have a beer, and ride my snowmobile, I am an irresponsible rider according to many, regardless of my behavior and actions with that oh so tasty beer in my belly.
Who is more responsible?
The guy that does not drink, and pushes the limits for 150 miles a day on 2 way wooded trails?
The guy who just drank 2 beers and is heading back to town driving at a easy pace hugging the right side of the trail (and rode the same way that morning and all day long - beer free -)?
There is no single way to accomplish or define responsibility on a snowmobile. It is the sum of all of your actions throughout the course of the day, and the amount of beers you have had to drink is only one portion of that equation.
Breeze, I think the thread was about drinking and riding, mostly going bar to bar or long roadtrip to sled then only to go a few miles and sit in the bar.
Yes, many things can add up to being responsible on your sled. The "deadhorse" issue is coming back up because it cannot be stressed enough. Apparently it is still an issue, and I for one will chime in when I can because of its importance. If you choose to ride all day then stop and have a few just a couple miles from your nights stay, that's fine! I just hope to all get out that I am NOT anywhere near you.You may think your under control and all that fuzzy stuff, but you just are pushing your luck. If you go to the barber shop long enough, you're gonna get a haircut...
Please, just park it for the nite, then I could care less if you try to drink Sconnie dry!
My 2 cents and I'm stickin' 2 it!
Yes, many things can add up to being responsible on your sled. The "deadhorse" issue is coming back up because it cannot be stressed enough. Apparently it is still an issue, and I for one will chime in when I can because of its importance. If you choose to ride all day then stop and have a few just a couple miles from your nights stay, that's fine! I just hope to all get out that I am NOT anywhere near you.You may think your under control and all that fuzzy stuff, but you just are pushing your luck. If you go to the barber shop long enough, you're gonna get a haircut...
Please, just park it for the nite, then I could care less if you try to drink Sconnie dry!
My 2 cents and I'm stickin' 2 it!
noradonuts
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they should make snowmobililing illegal so it wont interfer with my drinking
coldsmokejr
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"There is more fun in a gallon of gas than there is in a barrel of booze"
-some dude
-some dude
srt20
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Imagine how much fun it is when you mix them together!!
Relax.... just a joke........or is it?
noradonuts
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A barrel of booze will last longer than a gallon of gas -me
propjockey
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Sounds like somebody's been drinking already!....Where did you come up with that one.... And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
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