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TEK Vest Poll
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polarisrider1
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I have been considering getting one for a couple years now. Everytime I read a post like this it gets me a little bit closer to making a purchase. I ride with a chest protector when I ride dirt bikes so I don't think I will even notice it.
That is my goal with this topic. Buy it and wear it. Please.
That is my goal with this topic. Buy it and wear it. Please.
What about the valid points of "risk homeostasis"?
I don't ride with a tek vest. I also ride without a helmet on private land. (*gasp*) I bicycle without a helmet when I feel like it. I feel I make smart decisions - no car accidents, rolled a sled one time in many years, a few mountain bike accidents (over the bars! lol). I haven't gotten hurt on a sled - the stories here that I feel really apply to me are about hitting deer, you can't really prevent that.
To me, the smartest way to ride is not on the edge of control. The stories of accidents from most people are entirely preventable by making smart decisions. I'm sorry, but it's true.
What about the valid points of "risk homeostasis"?
I don't ride with a tek vest. I also ride without a helmet on private land. (*gasp*) I bicycle without a helmet when I feel like it. I feel I make smart decisions - no car accidents, rolled a sled one time in many years, a few mountain bike accidents (over the bars! lol). I haven't gotten hurt on a sled - the stories here that I feel really apply to me are about hitting deer, you can't really prevent that.
To me, the smartest way to ride is not on the edge of control. The stories of accidents from most people are entirely preventable by making smart decisions. I'm sorry, but it's true.
You are completely forgetting that you cant control the other sledders out there. Sure you can control your own actions but what about the ricky racer that comes around a corner on your side of the trail going way to fast. I hit a deer for the first time in 25 years of riding and wish i would have had one. I love when people make the argument that they are a safe rider and it doesnt appy to them. Its actually the dumest arguement you can make!
I dont wear a seat belt in my car because im afraid im might do somthing dumb and crash! i wear it beacuse im afraid you or someone else will!
I lead a lot of the time in my group and i can tell you with the 2000+ miles we do every year i bet i have at least 5 close calls a year and can tell you none of them have been in my control.
I'm not forgetting the other people at all. I've had quite a few close calls from jagoffs like that. One hit my sled, I saw it coming and bailed out the back. He was hurt, I was not. I've also seen it coming and jumped the slef off the trail and prevented it that way. I am not in control of the other riders, I am in control of my reaction to them. Any one of us can have it happen to them.
In a similar way to helmets - it might save you, it might not. If you hit a tree at speed, even with a vest, you're likely to receive blunt trauma, possibly fatal.
In a similar way to helmets - it might save you, it might not. If you hit a tree at speed, even with a vest, you're likely to receive blunt trauma, possibly fatal.
polarisrider1
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You are completely forgetting that you cant control the other sledders out there. Sure you can control your own actions but what about the ricky racer that comes around a corner on your side of the trail going way to fast. I hit a deer for the first time in 25 years of riding and wish i would have had one. I love when people make the argument that they are a safe rider and it doesnt appy to them. Its actually the dumest arguement you can make!
I dont wear a seat belt in my car because im afraid im might do somthing dumb and crash! i wear it beacuse im afraid you or someone else will!
I lead a lot of the time in my group and i can tell you with the 2000+ miles we do every year i bet i have at least 5 close calls a year and can tell you none of them have been in my control.
Thank you olsmann. Even a Tek vest is not a garantee, Some of us do ride on the edge and always will. I wear one because I need to be somewhere on Mondays and it is not a hospital. I look at it as a Tek vest was an investment to prevent me to have to start on my $5200 annual medical deductable. If I am not working I lose thousands in wages also. Tek vest was on sale for $150 at a snow show. It keeps my inerds in!
So enough with the "it wont happen to me arguement" Im not concerned about anyone elses safety just my own.
Now the million dolllar question... Where can i find a deal on one? Really like the Klim and everthing else i have bought from them has been the best i have ever owned. So any ideas? I would also conside the tecvest feestyle
Now the million dolllar question... Where can i find a deal on one? Really like the Klim and everthing else i have bought from them has been the best i have ever owned. So any ideas? I would also conside the tecvest feestyle
So enough with the "it wont happen to me arguement" Im not concerned about anyone elses safety just my own.
I guess, since apparently the only reason for this thread is for everyone to tell non-users they're wrong. So much for intellectual debate, eh? Still waiting for anyones thoughts on risk homeostasis. There's many examples of it causing death in backcountry skiers - mainly mixed with group mentality, mental shortcuts, terrain reading mistakes.
polarisrider1
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You can win one here http://www.tekrider.com/ note how well they fit the ladies too! I bought my TAG Pack from these guys and they have tek vests http://www.helmetoutletusa.com/index.cgi?Function=Snowmobile&Detail=1720&Cat=Tech Vests&Name=Freestyle&Manuf=TekVest free shipping and no sales tax.
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polarisrider1
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I guess, since apparently the only reason for this thread is for everyone to tell non-users they're wrong. So much for intellectual debate, eh? Still waiting for anyones thoughts on risk homeostasis. There's many examples of it causing death in backcountry skiers - mainly mixed with group mentality, mental shortcuts, terrain reading mistakes.
Beakjones get real dude. I started the thread and I am not telling you your wrong, not concerned about safety is your issue. If a life is saved from it then it was worth it. A Tek vest is NOT a get out of trouble card, but it helps if things go wrong seen or unforseen.
In a similar way to helmets - it might save you, it might not. If you hit a tree at speed, even with a vest, you're likely to receive blunt trauma, possibly fatal.
True, but your chances of a lesser injury by wearing a helmet or protective vest are much greater than by not wearing them.
Think of spending the $150-250 on a protective vest as an investment in yourself and for your family!
felonious_rider
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I guess, since apparently the only reason for this thread is for everyone to tell non-users they're wrong. So much for intellectual debate, eh? Still waiting for anyones thoughts on risk homeostasis. There's many examples of it causing death in backcountry skiers - mainly mixed with group mentality, mental shortcuts, terrain reading mistakes.
Beakjones, don't be hard on Polarisrider1, he can't help himself,,,just joking PR1! I was just getting you back for the cop joke! HAHA!! Beakjones your right about being a responsible rider on the trail and around other people. I couldn't agree more. I am the only rider in the groups I ride with that wear a Tekvest. I do not harp on anyone for not wearing one nor do they harp on me for wearing one, its your choice. This will probably make you laugh but me and GSXGirl both wear Tekvests and hockey shin/knee guards. The shin guards save your knees from hitting the metal firewalls (on a RMK) when boondocking. I feel naked with out them. Be safe and ride on!!!!
polarisrider1
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Beakjones, don't be hard on Polarisrider1, he can't help himself,,,just joking PR1! I was just getting you back for the cop joke! HAHA!! Beakjones your right about being a responsible rider on the trail and around other people. I couldn't agree more. I am the only rider in the groups I ride with that wear a Tekvest. I do not harp on anyone for not wearing one nor do they harp on me for wearing one, its your choice. This will probably make you laugh but me and GSXGirl both wear Tekvests and hockey shin/knee guards. The shin guards save your knees from hitting the metal firewalls (on a RMK) when boondocking. I feel naked with out them. Be safe and ride on!!!!
Carter wears shin and knee guards too. It's a sporting event for most of us, the pros wear all the gear. My 2 cents.
Beakjones get real dude. I started the thread and I am not telling you your wrong, not concerned about safety is your issue. If a life is saved from it then it was worth it. A Tek vest is NOT a get out of trouble card, but it helps if things go wrong seen or unforseen.
Wait, I'm not concerned about safety BECAUSE my opinion is that responsible riding and not riding "close to the edge" are the best ways to prevent accidents? By the way, I think you mean "may help", not does. You can't prove it will, only might.
When studying the snowmobile fatality reports, it seems that nearly half of all are from striking trees. If you strike a tree hard enough, a vest won't do a damn thing. The sudden deceleration might be enough to maybe kill you. The trauma induced by the strike might be enough to kill you. A vest might save you, it might not. In this instance... woulnd't NOT riding like your God be the best solution? Of course it would. This is my point, and I'm playing devils advocate to try to get people to really analyze some decisions - because that's step #1 in accident prevention. <-- edit, riding like youre not God AND having safety equipment would be better.
BTW, I wear the shinguards as well sometimes. I certainly would like a tekvest, and I'd probably wear it everytime and remove it when I access a backcountry skiing spot I want to session. I mountain bike with shinguards, if I did freeriding I would wear a pressure suit (essentially shoulder / chest guard).
I'm sure quite a few EMS / ski patrol types would agree with me. They would also agree with you. The idea is to get people to be fully aware of the risks and ways to minimize risk - both with gear and mental preparation.
A little body protection is a good idea IMO. The tech is there why not use it? Of course the guy who we could not convince to buy protection rolled his sled last year. He did not read trail right then over corrected rolled at maybe 25mph but he was 55 & was too sore the next day to ride. His solution has been to no longer ride. I told told him you know better should have had tek vest your are too old for offs & rolling around in the snow. Live & learn I guess.
I guess, since apparently the only reason for this thread is for everyone to tell non-users they're wrong. So much for intellectual debate, eh? Still waiting for anyones thoughts on risk homeostasis. There's many examples of it causing death in backcountry skiers - mainly mixed with group mentality, mental shortcuts, terrain reading mistakes.
I didnt say you were were wrong, I just said i dont care that your not concerned about your own safety. And Idont care if you wear a helmet or tekvest or gloves, boots, condoms or whatever. Im not here to change your mind on what you should do with your life or body. As i dont expect anyone to tell me what i should do either.
Wait, I'm not concerned about safety BECAUSE my opinion is that responsible riding and not riding "close to the edge" are the best ways to prevent accidents? By the way, I think you mean "may help", not does. You can't prove it will, only might.
When studying the snowmobile fatality reports, it seems that nearly half of all are from striking trees. If you strike a tree hard enough, a vest won't do a damn thing. The sudden deceleration might be enough to maybe kill you. The trauma induced by the strike might be enough to kill you. A vest might save you, it might not. In this instance... woulnd't NOT riding like your God be the best solution? Of course it would. This is my point, and I'm playing devils advocate to try to get people to really analyze some decisions - because that's step #1 in accident prevention. <-- edit, riding like youre not God AND having safety equipment would be better.
BTW, I wear the shinguards as well sometimes. I certainly would like a tekvest, and I'd probably wear it everytime and remove it when I access a backcountry skiing spot I want to session. I mountain bike with shinguards, if I did freeriding I would wear a pressure suit (essentially shoulder / chest guard).
I'm sure quite a few EMS / ski patrol types would agree with me. They would also agree with you. The idea is to get people to be fully aware of the risks and ways to minimize risk - both with gear and mental preparation.
Well, in my case it was the blade on the front end of a groomer that I hit doing approximetly 20-30 mph. I came to a stop real quick like. I walked away from that accident, one broken rib, one cracked, a nice bruise on my right thigh also. I absolutely believe 100 percent the tekvest saved my life. Would it save someone from a tree collision at 60mph? I don't know, it might, it might not. But, I believe one would have a better chance of surviving with one on.
I've been wearing one since Dec of 2003, I am not on here to tell anyone that you are wrong of you don't wear one. It is your choice. I also wear a helmet when riding my motorcycle, again, my choice, and I don't tell anyone they are wrong if they don't wear one, whatever, it is their melon, not mine. I also wear knee/shin guards while riding my sled.
To think that you are good enough to prevent all accidents is crazy. There are way too many variables. It may not be you or the next guy, it might be something as simple as mechanical failure that sends you into a tree. You just never know. Yes a tekvest may not save you but it does greatly increase your chances of survival.
I love the anti seat belt arguments. They almost always include a story about the guy that died because he was wearing a seat belt. They never take into account the huge number of cases of where people lived because of wearing a seat belt.
I love the anti seat belt arguments. They almost always include a story about the guy that died because he was wearing a seat belt. They never take into account the huge number of cases of where people lived because of wearing a seat belt.
polarisrider1
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Wait, I'm not concerned about safety BECAUSE my opinion is that responsible riding and not riding "close to the edge" are the best ways to prevent accidents? By the way, I think you mean "may help", not does. You can't prove it will, only might.
When studying the snowmobile fatality reports, it seems that nearly half of all are from striking trees. If you strike a tree hard enough, a vest won't do a damn thing. The sudden deceleration might be enough to maybe kill you. The trauma induced by the strike might be enough to kill you. A vest might save you, it might not. In this instance... woulnd't NOT riding like your God be the best solution? Of course it would. This is my point, and I'm playing devils advocate to try to get people to really analyze some decisions - because that's step #1 in accident prevention. <-- edit, riding like youre not God AND having safety equipment would be better.
BTW, I wear the shinguards as well sometimes. I certainly would like a tekvest, and I'd probably wear it everytime and remove it when I access a backcountry skiing spot I want to session. I mountain bike with shinguards, if I did freeriding I would wear a pressure suit (essentially shoulder / chest guard).
I'm sure quite a few EMS / ski patrol types would agree with me. They would also agree with you. The idea is to get people to be fully aware of the risks and ways to minimize risk - both with gear and mental preparation.
I see what your saying. A tek vest does not give the sense of invincability or at least should not give that sense. I forget mine is on 99% of the time. Many people never heard of a tek vest and this whole topic was to bring awareness that there is such a thing to help protect them if they choose.