Tony Stewart
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highhertel
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Sad day for racing for sure for both teams. Personally that is why I follow NHRA, the teams all work together for the betterment of the sport.
'We are all in this together' as the saying goes.
HH
'We are all in this together' as the saying goes.
HH
polarisrider1
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Great idea.
as my friend says everytime he is on the track and something happens and there is a confrontation, "we were both at fault, we were on the track"
i feel bad for the family, but the kid should have stayed in the car
we have all seen the "getting out of the car and being pissed off, throwing and yelling" thing, but in the dark, wearing black...... sooo sad!
i feel bad for the family, but the kid should have stayed in the car
we have all seen the "getting out of the car and being pissed off, throwing and yelling" thing, but in the dark, wearing black...... sooo sad!
snobuilder
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my personal op is that Stewart KNEW he just caused the yellow to come out so why was his speed that high a lap later....???
yes even for a sprint car on a short track....takes a 150 feet to slow her down to "yellow safe"
This will end Tonys career.
yes even for a sprint car on a short track....takes a 150 feet to slow her down to "yellow safe"
This will end Tonys career.
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Deleted member 10829
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I just watched that video over and over and it sure looks like Tony's rear tires break loose and he was trying to mess with the guy. I don't think he did it intentionally, but he did hit the throttle enough to spin the rear tires IMO. The car broke loose and the rear end shot out and hit the guy.
allen_shores
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My guess would be that he hit the gas to try to get out of the way before he got to him. Tony would have no reason to want to hit this kid. the kid was the one who was mad, not Tony. I just can's see anyone ever using there race car as a weapon in that situation. Car to car yes, but not car to human body. NO WAY!
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Deleted member 10829
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Take a look at this video a few times at the 35 second point. It's pretty obvious to me. You hear the engine roar and the car slide out in the rear.
http://deadspin.com/reports-tony-stewart-ran-over-opposing-driver-during-1618893708
http://deadspin.com/reports-tony-stewart-ran-over-opposing-driver-during-1618893708
Anyway you look at this it was an accident. The Ward family and Tony will live with this everyday. Accidents happen everyday to good people. Something bad could happen to anyone of us tomorrow or the next day. We don't know what will come next.
Trust me Tony won't ever forget.
I hope this brings changes to all types of racing.
who are we to judge?
Im also in favor of pulling this Thread.
Trust me Tony won't ever forget.
I hope this brings changes to all types of racing.
who are we to judge?
Im also in favor of pulling this Thread.
misty_pines
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It looked like the way he had the wheels turned, when he appeared to hit the gas, the rear tires slid away from the guy. You can see the rear sliding to the inside of the track at that point. Maybe he made a last ditch effort to avoid the guy? Hard to tell for sure since the camera wasn't on Tony's car up until the point of impact. Real sad deal for sure.
Yeah after watching it 20 times or so yesterday that was the conclusion I came to
think he was going to show him who the boss was give him a bit of a scare and killed the kid. at a caution at 30 mph u do not need to rev it up and kick the ars end out to get out of the way . 30mph u turn the wheel and go down track .
like I said in the civil suit the video is going to play huge and not in favor of Stewart hauss Racing. u know they will go after corp prob much deeper unprotected assets there than tony personal unprotected assets
think he was going to show him who the boss was give him a bit of a scare and killed the kid. at a caution at 30 mph u do not need to rev it up and kick the ars end out to get out of the way . 30mph u turn the wheel and go down track .
like I said in the civil suit the video is going to play huge and not in favor of Stewart hauss Racing. u know they will go after corp prob much deeper unprotected assets there than tony personal unprotected assets
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Deleted member 10829
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To me the rear doesn't slide to the inside of the track until he hits the guy and is running him over and then lets off the gas.
I agree ezra, he was going up the track as he hit him. Watch the blue and white car right before Tony, he was slowing down and moving down the track. Tony accelerated and moved up the track, again, IMO.
Mutual Culpability
I've learned a new term in the discussion of this incident...mutual culpabilty, which means that both parties merit blame. The driver should not have walked down a poorly lit track in a black suit, continuing to walk closer and closer towards Stewart's car. Had he not gotten out of the car there would be no one for Stewart to hit. His actions are culpable, that is, worthy of blame.
Stewart is mutually culpable because, for whatever reason, his car breaks loose and fishtails to hit him. We can assume that since the car fishtailed (for whatever reason) Stewart did not have control of his vehicle, thus violating the rules of a yellow caution. He is, therefore mutually culpable. We can assume if he had control like the blue car (and others) and followed the line and the speed he would not have hit the driver.
The question to be answered is the intent of Stewart's actions. I have also watched the video several times, and I need to ask the question "Why would a NASCAR champion and experienced sprint car driver not be able to control his car under a yellow when the other much less experienced racers are able to do so? What caused Stewart's car to break loose?" I too have heard the throttle blip while the camera is on the blue car, and there is no linkage to the throttle blip and Stewart's car fishtailing, although that is the next thing we see.
I bet another video will surface where we will be able to hear the throttle blip and link it directly to the fishtailing of Stewart's car.
I've learned a new term in the discussion of this incident...mutual culpabilty, which means that both parties merit blame. The driver should not have walked down a poorly lit track in a black suit, continuing to walk closer and closer towards Stewart's car. Had he not gotten out of the car there would be no one for Stewart to hit. His actions are culpable, that is, worthy of blame.
Stewart is mutually culpable because, for whatever reason, his car breaks loose and fishtails to hit him. We can assume that since the car fishtailed (for whatever reason) Stewart did not have control of his vehicle, thus violating the rules of a yellow caution. He is, therefore mutually culpable. We can assume if he had control like the blue car (and others) and followed the line and the speed he would not have hit the driver.
The question to be answered is the intent of Stewart's actions. I have also watched the video several times, and I need to ask the question "Why would a NASCAR champion and experienced sprint car driver not be able to control his car under a yellow when the other much less experienced racers are able to do so? What caused Stewart's car to break loose?" I too have heard the throttle blip while the camera is on the blue car, and there is no linkage to the throttle blip and Stewart's car fishtailing, although that is the next thing we see.
I bet another video will surface where we will be able to hear the throttle blip and link it directly to the fishtailing of Stewart's car.