Western UP Trail 2 will be closed.....

eagle1

Well-known member
I'm saying they all sound loud without a helmet and wouldn't want them running close to my house either.
 

snobuilder

Well-known member
Sleds have gotten nothing but WAY MORE quiet over the past 30 years.
I'll put my quiet A.M. silencer up against any stock triple triple for a human ear noise test.

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The MOST obnoxious sound EVERYONES sled can make is your carbides on bare pavement....how about the local municipalities straighten out their nazi plow drivers about this?

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BLAMING ALL A.M. silencers as the problem for shutting down trails is like blaming ALL GUNS for killing ppl.
 

snobuilder

Well-known member
Taking the taxpayers reason that this "past year" has been bad, leads me to believe it very well could be 1 or 2 pll ....either local or not....running past his house repeatedly.

Local kid runs past my house on a daily basis....if he ever makes that sled obnoxiously loud....he will be talked too.
 

groomerdriver

New member
Who are we to question a landowners decision. I honestly can believe that it is the sleds with cans that have made this decision. If you have 200 sleds go past your house, and 20 of them are loud, you think he can't tell the difference.

It is time that all sledders get a grip and see what is going on. Loud sleds close trails. Off trail tresspassing closes trails. Closed trails are bad for everyone. It can have a snowball effect. When one landowner sees what is going on, another may follow along. It is time that we ALL try to follow the rules. It is the future of our sport, or not.

I would like to see my kids have trails to ride, but something tells me that they will have much less miles to ride than we have now. If we don't help ourselves, who will?

Well said jr37....well said.
 

old abe

Well-known member
This is not just a U.P. issue. Noise will be a driving factor in closing sleds out of National/State parks, and National/State forests. The noise thing is getting worse. It does not bother me, but I want the trails open. Much harder to reopen a trail than it is to close it. Things like this get started, and they seem to grow legs. I have no problem with DNR enforcing excessive noise laws. MFG's have done a good job producing sleds that are not loud, and still run very well performance wise. I do agree with polarisrider1.
 

scoot

Member
Good...Trail 2 is boring.

a reroute thru the woods would be an improvement

I'm sure the local club and MSA would love to have your help in establishing a suitable re-route.

Yep, after he ascertains for himself whether or not the homeowner has a legitimate beef, and whether or not its locals or out of towners. Then hopefully, he and his ever expanding group of new, very active young club members could get started on the solution right away.
 

longtrack

Member
I think any Sled or ATV with a modified Exhaust should be illegal. I believe our County here in Wisconsin has that Ordinance in place. I just don't know how well our Rec Officer enforces it.

My guess is the closure is between Ironwood and Marinesco. I think that section has some Private sections.
 

durphee

Well-known member
That's too bad about the trail. why is common sense and respect for other people so difficult. Usually the people who are trespassing or causing other problems and the first people to complain when law enforcement starts cracking down. Make this is money maker, increase fines for loud sleds and enforce the crud out of it. It won't stop it but hopefully reduce the problem.
 

wirev

New member
I live right on the trail and I can tell you, when guys get flipper happy, I can tell who has a can and who doesn't. While we are off the path just a little with trees suppressing the noise, it's not hard distinguishing the cans. "BAN DA CANS" or we will lose many trails JMHO. BTW, I refuse to ride with guys with cans as it makes me look just as bad.
 

ridindirty800

Active member
I never got that exhaust thing, it seems to me the couple pounds shaved off, i don't think would make much difference. Is it like a Harley thing, the loudest pipes win. I would think the excess noise all day would give you a headache, versus the little bit of time the performance increase would benefit you.

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Is there any effort to "ban the can" I would totally back that.



Cans are Banned already. But I agree that it is the guy with the flipper that is the issue and you will never fix that. I ran cans on my previous 2 sled and have been stopped many times and never once did a DNR or sheriff question my sled for noise. When near houses/towns/ gas stations I was always easy on the throttle and would hold a steady speed. All the guys who braaaap their sleds 100 times to let people know they are coming to town are the issue. My current sled has a homemade modified can (ski doo 1200 4 stroke) and it is no louder than stock but just has a different deep tone and shaved 13lbs. It also always me to change oil filter and chaincase without having to take off stock muffler as this one is half the size. Good luck fixing all the kuckle heads who want their cans to be heard. And by know means am I saying we should all run cans, just saying some people have them and if you are respectful of it I do not think there would be any problems. Just my 2 cents.
 

Pizza Man

New member
I ran triple pipes on my 650 Poo years ago. One weekend we rode around Minocqua and happened to go to a boat landing to get to the trail. A club was having a brat fry there and when I went though, I got a lot of harassment. I got home and took them off. Never made the sled any faster just louder.
Also a few years back we were riding around Seney and all sleds were stopped to do a loud exhaust check. No tickets were being written to our group but others were getting one.
 

legend02

Active member
I think if you banned snowmobile groups from IL you would take 75% of the cans off the trails...ha..


Then all your business would go broke if we were banned
Your comment is F' ing stupid



Nobody I ride with has a can that lives in illinois

But my riding buddy's from Indiana have one
 

buddah2

Member
I think any Sled or ATV with a modified Exhaust should be illegal. I believe our County here in Wisconsin has that Ordinance in place. I just don't know how well our Rec Officer enforces it.

Everybody always thinks their answer is the one......even if nobody asked them a question.........here's a concept for you: we already have noise laws in place.....don't need anymore......simply enforce what's already there......you want to play, you pay........
 

MZEMS2

New member
You can bet the landowner has been pondering this for a few years, and this year, with zero snow anywhere else, it finally made him crack. Too bad for the local club that has worked with him for so many years. Too bad for any local businesses that this might affect as well. Like anything else, it's a few bad apples that ruin if or everyone else. I wonder if the landowner would reconsider if the DNR was to patrol his property and stop the noisy, throttle blipping punks. Or maybe post his property with speed limits and enforce them as well?? In any case, good for the landowner for putting up with it for so long. I wouldn't want hundreds of fully stock sleds going past my house at all hrs of the night, let alone jerks with excessively noisy sleds. Never understood the whole noise thing either.......morons!!! Yes, if you have a modified exhaust, toss it in the recycle bin, go back to stock, and stop thinking of just yourself!! If a modified exhaust actually added any real benefit, I think it would have come that way from the manufacturer.
Just my .02.
 

buddah2

Member
..... If a modified exhaust actually added any real benefit, I think it would have come that way from the manufacturer.

And therein lies the hole in your logic.........manufacturers could give a rat's patootie about or benefit from any of the components......their only goal is to avoid warranty claims, i.e. additional expense for them.......
 

chords

Active member
Whats incentive is there for a landowner to have a trail go thru their property ? Surely he must be giving something up. A property tax break or cash payment ?
 
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