What if they made an old sled again?

800etec

Member
Workhard, we had a jd 340 trailfire which we really enjoyed,but i remember a couple of friends that had liquifiers and i remember being so jealous of them,lol
 

Skylar

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Anything with a triple-triple. Preferable with 2020s Fuel Injection. Trailing arms or a-arms dont care. Just put a seat riser or something on it.

Yes, I'd take the SX700R triple with fuel injection, but I need the modern seating positioning and better suspension tham the 01 I had.
 

1fujifilm

Well-known member
What if mfg's made an old style of sled but brand new? I am not talking about re-making a name in a new chassis, I mean re-creating a late 1990s Indy 500 likens. Sure there was downfalls of the sit down style sleds compared to rider forward, but engine size is plenty for most and I think there would be a lot of nostalgia which people would buy into. If we wanna make sleds great again, have to go back to that great time right?

They do, Poo makes a founders edition that is red, white and blue not my cup of tea, also remember you will be plunking 10k on this sled so someone else has to buy it when you are done with it.

BeR
 

maddogg

Member
I wish Polaris would offer a 500 liquid again on a light sled and lower the price. Nice reliable engine with plenty of power (for me). I have a 600 now and love it but my 550 fan is a real pooch.
 

goofy600

Well-known member
In the world of old sleds that are new it would have the be like all the car shows on tv make or take an old sled but modern engine drive train and suspension. And it would cost as much as a new one. Like others have posted fun to own but wouldn’t give up what I have for an old but new. With that being said I was in St. Germain a few years ago ad there was a 74 or 5 skidoo silver bullet that someone put a more modern IFS or DSA front suspension on it that was cool and be fun for vintage ride.
 

ohiosledder

Active member
My current sled is an 2012 XTX with 4,500 miles on it and just sold my 2011 XTX about a month ago which had 2,400 miles on it. Yes, I love the sled but as many other Yamaha customers were waiting for the next version/upgrade/evolution...call it what you want...of that model sled. It never happened. Now it appears I'm heading over to Doo. I rode Whitedust's enduro and was very impressed. My son's 2015 Viper (Yamicat) has been an issue for 3 years in a row. Yesterday with about 20 miles left to go on our 250 mile trip something broke in, what I think is the chain case and I had to tow him home with my XTX. Yamicat reliability sucks and I'm done. Heading out today to try and find a Doo with my son so we can ride while we have snow.

This is what I sold last month.

http://forum.johndee.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?57467-2011-Apex-XTX-Candy-Red

My friends and I have three 2014 AC Sno Pro Yamicats, and this year all three of them have had major issues. My friends was a chaincase bearing issue, which caused $3300 repairs. Mine had the starter engage while the flywheel was still turning, causing $2200 in damage and the last sled had a cracked oil tank to the tune of $700. I think next season will be a change in sleds for me because I'm not going to pay another couple grand for a repair. The issue on my sled could have been prevented with an ECU update, but the dealer told me that Cat doesn't send out notices for updates, they're counting on you bringing it into the dealer every season.
 

dfattack

Well-known member
My friends and I have three 2014 AC Sno Pro Yamicats, and this year all three of them have had major issues. My friends was a chaincase bearing issue, which caused $3300 repairs. Mine had the starter engage while the flywheel was still turning, causing $2200 in damage and the last sled had a cracked oil tank to the tune of $700. I think next season will be a change in sleds for me because I'm not going to pay another couple grand for a repair. The issue on my sled could have been prevented with an ECU update, but the dealer told me that Cat doesn't send out notices for updates, they're counting on you bringing it into the dealer every season.

That's nuts. Sorry to hear all of that. nothing worse than planning a trip then having something like that happen. I've had about 15 sleds since 2001 and NEVER had a mechanical issue let alone on the trail until yesterday. Thank God I was prepared. Already out shopping for a new sled today, but think I will spring order a Doo XRS when they are released. Selling the Viper as soon as I can.
 

SledTL

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I have a 2014 Viper, and while I agree some things could be improved, if you spend a little bit of time online there is quite a bit of knowledge on all those issues which were spoken above. Outside of cracked oil tank, the bearings are known to get dry in both the chain case and jack shaft on clutch side. Have to pull out the seal and re-pack every few years depending on mileage. A few flashes have been announced to help combat the reverse issues, etc. Join the SR Viper owners page on facebook if possible. A guy named Bill Mohr knows the vehicle inside and out and basically sits all day answering questions as well as improving their handling downfalls.
 
We have a 2011 Yamaha Bravo LT 250. It’s referred to as the “Furtrapper Special” and is the same as those built in the late 1980s, early 1990s. It’s got a single cylinder 2 stroke and the sled is very light. It goes through powder amazingly well. I use it to pull my grandkids on tubes and we have a blast. I just wouldn’t take it for a long ride. I have two modern Skidoo Expeditions for that. Lastly, I think Yamaha was still making these through the 2012 model year. Fun, fun sled!
 

gary_in_neenah

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We have a 2011 Yamaha Bravo LT 250. It’s referred to as the “Furtrapper Special” and is the same as those built in the late 1980s, early 1990s. It’s got a single cylinder 2 stroke and the sled is very light. It goes through powder amazingly well. I use it to pull my grandkids on tubes and we have a blast. I just wouldn’t take it for a long ride. I have two modern Skidoo Expeditions for that. Lastly, I think Yamaha was still making these through the 2012 model year. Fun, fun sled!

That's the one I was thinking of, thanks for posting.
 

Sandylake

New member
I'd have to want a late 80's or early 90's Phazer or Phazer II. Ugly, but a great sled.
loved my 89, light, lots of power, first sled that could water skip (that we had) reliably. Not me, but my Dad would water skip his.
Deep snow, even a novice rider wouldn't get it stuck. Walk right up to stuck sleds, help dig 'em out. Watch till they were safe, walk right out.
When I go up to the Soo next week. Going to see if I can get my Dad to give me his 91 that's sitting at my sister's house.

My choice too.

My kid has one that has transformed from stock, into mountain, into trash and now into a snowcross sled.

It's not the greatest of anything, those pogos are just bad, but it sure is a great machine to build off of and that engine is killer.
 

rayds

Member
I am getting concerned for replacements parts availability, not that I have needed many parts so far (knock on wood), only a water pump so far for the engine
 

scoot

Member
I am getting concerned for replacements parts availability

I always thought AC should have offered rolling chassis' (glidders) for those 660 motors like the trucking industry used to do for semi trucks.
Heck, if you keep a sled around long enough, you'll have people giving you parts sleds just to get them out of their yards. :) I've been keeping five 1976-78 AC Lynx running for the grand kids. I have three free parts sleds that I regularly cannibalize up in the loft. Longevity/hind sight says I should have collected the aluminum chassis Jag instead of the rusty steel chassis Lynx...... ;)
As for new sled technology vs old sled tech, agreed, no comparison. But the sport has changed. What used to be a fun way to enjoy winter with friends and family while never having or needing a speedo/odometer, has turned into putting 200 to 300 mile days as fast as possible. I went from knowing our local trails like the back of my hand to knowing all the trails north of highway 8 from Superior to Paradise equally as well. Over the last several years, I've found spending time riding around the farm with the grandkids more rewarding.
 

DamageInc

Member
I would quit riding before I went back to one of those old school sleds. They were a terrible fit for anyone, but even worse when you are 6'5", with knees way above your hips.
 

old abe

Well-known member
I always thought AC should have offered rolling chassis' (glidders) for those 660 motors like the trucking industry used to do for semi trucks.
Heck, if you keep a sled around long enough, you'll have people giving you parts sleds just to get them out of their yards. :) I've been keeping five 1976-78 AC Lynx running for the grand kids. I have three free parts sleds that I regularly cannibalize up in the loft. Longevity/hind sight says I should have collected the aluminum chassis Jag instead of the rusty steel chassis Lynx...... ;)
As for new sled technology vs old sled tech, agreed, no comparison. But the sport has changed. What used to be a fun way to enjoy winter with friends and family while never having or needing a speedo/odometer, has turned into putting 200 to 300 mile days as fast as possible. I went from knowing our local trails like the back of my hand to knowing all the trails north of highway 8 from Superior to Paradise equally as well. Over the last several years, I've found spending time riding around the farm with the grandkids more rewarding.

Yeah the grand kids make it the best! Now I can rely on them in my future years to keep me on the trail!
 

skiroule

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