Which oil do you suggest?

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Modman440

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Klotz is my personal choice... I was once told by a friend of mine who owns the actor cat rentals in Newberry and he said that they are basically all the same just different colors don't know how much truth to it but sure made me think .


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ezra

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Modman440 said:
Klotz is my personal choice... I was once told by a friend of mine who owns the actor cat rentals in Newberry and he said that they are basically all the same just different colors don't know how much truth to it but sure made me think .


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I love the smell of klotz and c116 but it always gummed valves faster in the drag sleds . don't know what they have done to formula in last 10 yrs may not be as gummy now don't know. but love the smell

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momoney2123 said:
Stuff does smell good too. I couldnt be happier with it, my etec has ran it since day 1 as synthetics are junk for seating rings. Lot of big name performance shops swear by it. Im no chemist, but synthetics dont fully combust, and in a 2 stroke engine, no thank you.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jvwmYpn7Pws

Good article by rk tek, who also reccomends legend.

http://www.2strokeheads.com/OIL-TECH.htm
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so why do u think u use non synthetics to seat rings ?
that would be same reason u switch to semi or full after break in.
I am still using cheep sea and snow I drank the $$$ cool aid for decades . I am full
 
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whitedust

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Is Blue Marble still sold? There was a lot of untrue marketing hype regarding Blue Marble but it did lubricate well and smoke less. I have been far removed from 2s oil since 2007 when I went 4s Yamaha snowmobiles & sold a case of Blue Marble gallons. I do have a newer Evinrude etec 150 outboard just use BRP 2s oil for that but doesn't use enough oil to worry about $$ in 1 boating season.
 
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momoney2123

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ezra said:
I love the smell of klotz and c116 but it always gummed valves faster in the drag sleds . don't know what they have done to formula in last 10 yrs may not be as gummy now don't know. but love the smell

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so why do u think u use non synthetics to seat rings ?
that would be same reason u switch to semi or full after break in.
I am still using cheep sea and snow I drank the $$$ cool aid for decades . I am full
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Always ran klotz pre-etec. Stuff always treated us well. Then ran XPS, also never had an issue, but smells odd. I really dont think there is a bad oil out today per say, and 99% of the time oil A will do the job as well as oil B, but when you are running hot or something causes a lean condition, some oils simply will out perform other oils and will save your 2 stroke from going boom. It is a rare occurancr but does happen. Synthetics simply don't fully combust, thats not my opinion its a fact, and for a 2 stroke engine thats not the best quality. For life or performance.

For me, if i am going to spend 14k on a new sled, i simply will not cheap out on oil. thats like buying a ferrari and being concerned what kind of fuel mileage it will get.
 
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Woodtic

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Amsoil and Starbucks have teamed up to bring us a new product. Pumpkin Spice Sled oil. Not only will it make your sled faster,it will also attract the Ladies. Since there is very little mark up in their products to start with???? It is being offered at $ 99.99 a gal.
 
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momoney2123

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few key points from article above


There is one argument that many use. It is something like this: "Well, my exhaust valves stay much cleaner when using synthetic oil". Interesting... Ask yourself, What does clean exhaust valves have to do with bearing and cylinder lubrication?? Answer: NOTHING!

Please do not confuse clean exhaust valves with better lubrication. They are NOT related. In fact, the fact that the valves are clean lends credibility to the fact that the synthetic oil is NOT burning/combusting or penetrating small areas but rather just "gliding" over parts without impregnating in the parts (needed).

Oil must attach itself and penetrate into the "voids" of your engine. The smaller the oil molecule, the easier it is for this to happen...too large of molecule (synthetic) and it can not enter the needed/required areas. OIL is your engine's life blood!!


Synthetic Oil can NOT be used to properly seat piston rings. This is a KNOWN fact to the manufacturers of synthetic oil. MOST have a non-synthetic "Break-In" oil that is used to properly break-in a new engine.

AND the #1 reason why a synthetic oil is not as good in a 2 stroke engine--> IT DOES NOT FULLY COMBUST!


The ONLY way ANY piston can seize in an engine is to have the oil barrier removed. Legend tested the highest and maxed out the testing software at greater than 16k RPMS and didn't break its oil barrier on the chart above

As long as the oil barrier remains fully intact, you can not seize an engine
 
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bearrassler

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Woodtic said:
Amsoil and Starbucks have teamed up to bring us a new product. Pumpkin Spice Sled oil. Not only will it make your sled faster,it will also attract the Ladies. Since there is very little mark up in their products to start with???? It is being offered at $ 99.99 a gal.
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I think I want some of this oil. I will have to check out my local Starbucks.
 
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polarisrider1

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Woodtic said:
Amsoil and Starbucks have teamed up to bring us a new product. Pumpkin Spice Sled oil. Not only will it make your sled faster,it will also attract the Ladies. Since there is very little mark up in their products to start with???? It is being offered at $ 99.99 a gal.
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Sweet! Lol.
 
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catalac

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momoney2123 said:
few key points from article above


There is one argument that many use. It is something like this: "Well, my exhaust valves stay much cleaner when using synthetic oil". Interesting... Ask yourself, What does clean exhaust valves have to do with bearing and cylinder lubrication?? Answer: NOTHING!

Please do not confuse clean exhaust valves with better lubrication. They are NOT related. In fact, the fact that the valves are clean lends credibility to the fact that the synthetic oil is NOT burning/combusting or penetrating small areas but rather just "gliding" over parts without impregnating in the parts (needed).

Oil must attach itself and penetrate into the "voids" of your engine. The smaller the oil molecule, the easier it is for this to happen...too large of molecule (synthetic) and it can not enter the needed/required areas. OIL is your engine's life blood!!


Synthetic Oil can NOT be used to properly seat piston rings. This is a KNOWN fact to the manufacturers of synthetic oil. MOST have a non-synthetic "Break-In" oil that is used to properly break-in a new engine.

AND the #1 reason why a synthetic oil is not as good in a 2 stroke engine--> IT DOES NOT FULLY COMBUST!


The ONLY way ANY piston can seize in an engine is to have the oil barrier removed. Legend tested the highest and maxed out the testing software at greater than 16k RPMS and didn't break its oil barrier on the chart above

As long as the oil barrier remains fully intact, you can not seize an engine
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Never heard of this . Where do you get it?
 
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momoney2123

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latner said:
How is it that Doo recommends synthetic in all their new sleds, even the 600 carb gets synthetic.
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They specifically recommend XPS oil. Which is their oil. Doo does believe that is the best oil for their engines but they also make money on it. There was one point doo stopped reccomending synthetics back in the 2000's. Not sure what has changed, maybe the xps formula. Legend is actually a "hybrid" oil.
 
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