Which oil do you suggest?
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no in fact a well known dealer in my parts is notorious for going to bat for the manufacture even when dealing with guys who spend a min of 14g a yr on there extremely well selling junk.
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hate to break it to u but non syn oils also do not fully combust in a 2st engine. ever had a pipe off ever pulled a power valve ever had a puddle under your can .what do u think that black oily stuff is?
momoney2123
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hate to break it to u but non syn oils also do not fully combust in a 2st engine. ever had a pipe off ever pulled a power valve ever had a puddle under your can .what do u think that black oily stuff is?[/QUOTE]
I would call that your engine being way too rich. If you flood the engine with oil..like some do, yes your correct all the oil will not be burnt. These arent my claims, i dont make a living building 2 stroke engines. Nor am i a chemist. But i kno guys that are and i will take their word for it. Run what you want....
hate to break it to u but non syn oils also do not fully combust in a 2st engine. ever had a pipe off ever pulled a power valve ever had a puddle under your can .what do u think that black oily stuff is?[/QUOTE]
I would call that your engine being way too rich. If you flood the engine with oil..like some do, yes your correct all the oil will not be burnt. These arent my claims, i dont make a living building 2 stroke engines. Nor am i a chemist. But i kno guys that are and i will take their word for it. Run what you want....
polarisrider1
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I would call that your engine being way too rich. If you flood the engine with oil..like some do, yes your correct all the oil will not be burnt. These arent my claims, i dont make a living building 2 stroke engines. Nor am i a chemist. But i kno guys that are and i will take their word for it. Run what you want....[/QUOTE]
I'm going with corn oil and an ethonal blend this year.
srt20
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polarisrider1
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Not sure yet, but the guy in aisle 5 at Walmart said it burns cleaner then canola and much more cost effective then olive oil. I remember my grandmother using castor oil for everything.
well the guy in aisle 5 is not Kelsey and we all know Kelsey is the 2 stroke building god . I hear christen brothers is dumping speedwerx Hall is dropping D&D and Hooper is just plan going under because he cant understand how the VERY SPECIAL HEAD works.
if they only knew it is all in the oil . think I am going to call knapp tonight and tell him he has been going about this all backwards just call kelesy and have him send u a quart of oil and a head and u can start getting world records again
if they only knew it is all in the oil . think I am going to call knapp tonight and tell him he has been going about this all backwards just call kelesy and have him send u a quart of oil and a head and u can start getting world records again
srt20
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What oil does indydan endorse?
momoney2123
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You obviously have zero respect for guys that forgot more than you think you kno about 2 stroke engines. No one is saying kelsay is some god but the guy shares a ton of good knowledge , but clearly you are above him.
Btw, what are you referencing....drag racing teams and sponsors? Dont those guys run turbos or stock 2 strokes.
PS kelsay doesnt sell oil
yeah zero respect what ever .
team christen is more or less team cat in all forums.
Hooper has prob been top builder in the country for decades .
some are drag guys whom race 4 st and full mod 2st stock 2st improved 2 st 600 800 700 u name it and build them all .
and some are friends who I have spent many hours wrenching with .
all the same they will run what ever is given to them to use because it is all the same chit that piston is pumping 141 times a second do u think that drop of oil per stroke is actually coating anything on a molecular level? if your pump takes a dump it is already to late buy the time u figure it out no matter what oil u run. that is why 95% of any REAL performance 2 st is premix.
What does yellowknife use?
And did anyone ever figure out who the mystery HCS chemist is? I think it was suspected he worked for Legend.
Is amsoil easy to find in Canada? For better or worse, my riding buds and I all run that and we're hoping to do a big loop up there this winter. Not sure we could carry enough oil. 2 Poo's and a kitty cat.
And did anyone ever figure out who the mystery HCS chemist is? I think it was suspected he worked for Legend.
Is amsoil easy to find in Canada? For better or worse, my riding buds and I all run that and we're hoping to do a big loop up there this winter. Not sure we could carry enough oil. 2 Poo's and a kitty cat.
polarisrider1
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So ya going skadooin eh?
And the arguments begin....... popcorn anyone????? I love how butt hurt some people get I mean really guys 98 % of us all have opions and there's always gonna be someone getting grumpy which racing team does this or that or what oil is best it's all opinions... hahaha but seriously use what you want and what makes you and your sled happy isn't that all that really matters???????
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polarisrider1
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Fine then, corn oil.... but only the best.... Mazola. No cheap, save a lot brand for my sled. Love that smell. Just got my jiffy pop, pop, pop can installed too! She is loud and they sent me a ton of stickers.
Hope so, if this el nino thing doesn't screw it all up. Last year we were up there and temps never hit 0 F the whole time, so maybe that will work out well up there.
momoney2123
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I duno where your going with this. I guess your point is artic cats "top" builders tell you any oil is good oil as at 188 cycles per second at 8k rpms it all the same stuff, haha. Fair enough. I just dont agree at all.
You to??????? I'm gonna have my rig covered in there stickers man let me tell you what I walked into my local watering hole and everyone kept asking me why I smelled like popcorn...... : / lol
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U don't have to agree . I am saying oil that is at minn astm rated is going to do the job just as well as the next. racers use what they are paid to use builder recommend what they sell or give u the honest answer . that would be I have not seen a oil brand related fail in decades. buy what U want no one really give a flying fuk . I ride with almost as many guys as diff brands of oil in the trailer . I like it that way less confusing on who's jug is who's. yes I have motor builder friends with world records who run what ever they are given to use along with the little check every season with no worry about the products at all in there race sleds at 180 rev per second .and no not all are cat but overwhelming they are cuz well we all know who has the best platform for fast tunable drag sleds
chords
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Why not use the same oil . You do know what they used right ?
momoney2123
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there is no doubt some oils perform better than others in extreme duty cycles. its been tested and proven. I do agree for normal trail riders, most any certified oil will do the job.
As a whole yea cats run good.Cats turbo is fast and can really be modded, 800 stocker doesn't have much competition on grass, f7 has always been fast in 700 class. Something I wish doo invested more effort in. they don't let racers do much anymore. even the snow cross sleds. I would still be grass dragging if we could lean the etecs down, but you simply cant. You can only go one direction, and that's more fuel, and when its 90 and humid, simply cant make power. on Ice etecs run well. The new doo 600 RS will be a strong runner at over 135HP. funny that used to be what the original 800 twins made.
But as you can see by the results of the 2 stroke mod classes at haydays over gosh, the last 10-20+ years, rotax has done well. marchbank being probably the most successful grass drag racer of all time, too bad he retired, but his daughter and dave lacanne have been doing very well at haydays/Wausau improved and pro stock. In reality any sled can run in the right hands, but for todays sleds, it seems cat is really the only manufacturer still supporting racing and racers. But unfortunately that doesn't sell sleds anymore.