Why chase snow? go to Wawa

windingtrailgal

Active member
mike - I hear ya. I've taken all of them riding since before any of them could talk. When my oldest was little, I used to just put him inside my coat. He'd fall asleep almost as soon as the sled started to move. The most fun was before he could ride, oldest would ride in front of big daddy, I had middle kid in front of me and the youngest kid in one of those hiking backpacks.

And we went out to Yellowstone because they were threatening no more snowmobiling at all and the mom in law gave us a free time share so we figured "let's go." Probably not one of our sharpest moments - but we did have a good time and it was cool to see the park in winter.

If I'm gonna do something big like go out West I really don't wanna ride with kids strapped to me. Can't imagine what they'd say if we told them they were staying behind with a babysitter?!!

It's good that all of ya have been out there and know what's what...Firecatguy - that's an awesome description of all the places.

And heliskiing?? As if I'd EVER be able to get the 13 yr old to snowboard in the midwest again. If we took him out there, he'd never wanna come back between the snowmobiling and snowboarding.
 
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cuzzinolaf

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I have been to Rabbit Ears, Vail, The Snowies and Cooke City and will have to say Cooke is by far the best. Just the feel of the town is awesome and you can hit good riding in less than 5 miles from your cabin and never be further than 10 miles from your cabin all day. I still want to try Tog and might get there someday. We're talking about western Colorado for next year and checking out the Grand Mesa/Grand Junction area. One more poor season in the UP and I'm out or strictly riding out west.
 

cuzzinolaf

Well-known member
I agree with Wayne....Tog disney land....Cooke for Mtn riders.....snowies is traile riders who like to get off trail......but I am heading back ther in a week.......trailering sucks,getting gas sucks,the east side sucks,parking sucks, they have snow thats AWSOME......they all have value just what are you looking for.....top of the world in Cooke is awsome.......JMO

120 inches in North French Creek right now.

http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/sntl-datarpt.jsp?site=668&days=7&state=wy
 

booondocker

New member
Too much hassle to ride Canada. Trail permits that are as high as a new track, lack of gasoline stops, and enforcement of road and trail laws that makes the States look like walks in the park.

You don't need a passport to get into Canada, you need them to get back out again. You can get a special drivers license, which makes it easier, but again it is a hassle. Any major criminal or drinking record and you are in for a pretty nice time even if you want to pay the fees to get into Canada.

While Canada has far less traffic, and is very beautiful trailing...you can get into a bunch of trouble if you get caught off trails...."As a condition of use of OFSC Prescribed Trails, the operator or passenger of a snowmobile agrees to never leave the trail base "

I have also found out that those trail conditions can be a bit over blown...meaning that you are likely to hit some conditions on the system that are less than marginal...and that can happen any time of the year.

Lastly since fueling is far and few between, expect to pay $5/gal and more for gasoline for both your truck and the sleds.
 

chords

Active member
pc of cake - not true

Crossing the border into Canada does not always go so smooth every time. I've been stopped, searched and interogated inside immigration many times. Once had to "show him the money". Denied entry into Canada once. In fact trying to leave the US at the Soo another time, after paying the bridge toll, I was stopped and approached by US Customs and had to pull into the garage and searched. I was only guilty of trying to leave the US ? This all occured many yrs before 9/11.

I remember when they let anyone into Canada. Hwy 17 would be lined with hippies (draft dodgers) trying to hitch a ride.

When crossing with a trailer full of sleds, dont you have to declare or get a reciept to prove you are returning with what you left with and to prove you didnt sell or buy ?
 

polarisrider1

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Crossing the border into Canada does not always go so smooth every time. I've been stopped, searched and interogated inside immigration many times. Once had to "show him the money". Denied entry into Canada once. In fact trying to leave the US at the Soo another time, after paying the bridge toll, I was stopped and approached by US Customs and had to pull into the garage and searched. I was only guilty of trying to leave the US ? This all occured many yrs before 9/11.

I remember when they let anyone into Canada. Hwy 17 would be lined with hippies (draft dodgers) trying to hitch a ride.

When crossing with a trailer full of sleds, dont you have to declare or get a reciept to prove you are returning with what you left with and to prove you didnt sell or buy ?

no. You can not haul gas cans accross with gas in them. Full sled is fine, oil is fine. I have crossed hundreds of times no problems either in the Soo or Sarnia (Port Huron). It has a lot to do with how you answer questions. I pull up, hand them passort and sit and wait for questions. 1st question is usually, "what is your purpose in Canada?" answer, "snowmobiling". 2nd question, "what is your destination?", answer, "Wawa". 3rd question, "are you bringing in any firearms, ammo, explosives, gifts or anything you wish to declare?" answer, "duty free, one bottle ea." the Boarder person hands you back your passport, then they say , "Enjoy Ontario!"

Going home they ask, "what did you purchase, why was you in Canada, citizenship and open trailer". they do a quick peek for bombs and to make sure sleds are really in trailer. then," Pass" Make sure none of the guys in your truck are wanted for anything, not even a parking ticket. You will be fine. It is no big deal. Only those who have something to hide complain about this process. You don't need a passport if you get the card that is like a mini passport. Everyone should have a passport anyways.
 

polarisrider1

New member
Crossing the border into Canada does not always go so smooth every time. I've been stopped, searched and interogated inside immigration many times. Once had to "show him the money". Denied entry into Canada once. In fact trying to leave the US at the Soo another time, after paying the bridge toll, I was stopped and approached by US Customs and had to pull into the garage and searched. I was only guilty of trying to leave the US ? This all occured many yrs before 9/11.

I remember when they let anyone into Canada. Hwy 17 would be lined with hippies (draft dodgers) trying to hitch a ride.

When crossing with a trailer full of sleds, dont you have to declare or get a reciept to prove you are returning with what you left with and to prove you didnt sell or buy ?[/QUOTE

Your sleds have MI or other US registrations on them. You need to declare if you bought a new sled in Canada and are bringing it home. I bring extra, 1/2 gal. duty free bottles of Crown Royal home at $2 per bottle duty. (boarder Guy buys donuts with it I am sure) I have also rode sleds accross from Drumond Island to Thessalon many, many times with no issues.
 

polarisrider1

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Are you saying Canada will not let someone in if they have a prior or DUI? I don't have any but just wondering.

Don't tell unless asked. DO NOT LIE, to the Boarder Patrol. they have computers that have everything about you on it. I have had guys turned back with DUI convictions. That is a high crime in Canada. I tell eveyone before we leave home what to expect. If you lie to me and your in my truck, I am going snowmobiling and I am leaving you at the boarder. If on Canada side they will house you until someone posts bail, if your a jerk with them. If you got a DUI and they figure it out you can get a "work Visa for $200" and get 6 months pass into Canada. After that you have to go to Detroit to the Chancelors office and get your Pass for $2000 if you ever whish to go back. Not trying to scare you none, but that's how it works. Nothing to hide then GO!!! something to hide stay here. That simple. Canada will welcome you with open arms for the most part. They like our money. And the Canadian people are very nice! (except the french).
 

indy_500

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Or you could just come here! :) 25 miles so far today... The roads are nice and smoooth!
 

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polarisrider1

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Too much hassle to ride Canada. Trail permits that are as high as a new track, lack of gasoline stops, and enforcement of road and trail laws that makes the States look like walks in the park.

You don't need a passport to get into Canada, you need them to get back out again. You can get a special drivers license, which makes it easier, but again it is a hassle. Any major criminal or drinking record and you are in for a pretty nice time even if you want to pay the fees to get into Canada.

While Canada has far less traffic, and is very beautiful trailing...you can get into a bunch of trouble if you get caught off trails...."As a condition of use of OFSC Prescribed Trails, the operator or passenger of a snowmobile agrees to never leave the trail base "

I have also found out that those trail conditions can be a bit over blown...meaning that you are likely to hit some conditions on the system that are less than marginal...and that can happen any time of the year.

Lastly since fueling is far and few between, expect to pay $5/gal and more for gasoline for both your truck and the sleds.

drink the Kool Aid. Never got a ticket there for off trail or speeding (and that's why I go there). They do check permits usually at the motels at night. Gas is far between but so is Togwotee and the snowies, bury a gas can in the snow works well if in doubt.
 

mikeh906

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So why go? We have the french here and even the Canadians do not like them. Go figure, Can not wait till they leave. Spend your hard earned money here.
 

polarisrider1

New member
So why go? We have the french here and even the Canadians do not like them. Go figure, Can not wait till they leave. Spend your hard earned money here.

Well Mike you will never see me in Florida in the winter time. My mother just got off the phone with me, she is in a area called Whicywatchie or something like that. Gulf side near Port Richie. "why don't you come down here and visit your mother" guilt trip. she lays it on me every time she calls. I don't do heat. anything over 75 degrees and forget it. I prefer 25 degrees.
 
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