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The Apex was released in 2006 & was refined thru 2010. 2011 the Apex chassis evolved to SE,XTX & standard Apex models when eps was 1st introduced & has been refined thru 2015 much like the evolution of the doo XP thru 2015. Unless you follow Yamaha you would think the Apex is unchanged since 2006 since the appearance has not changed much mostly because the core customers like it a lot. Most rider comments about Apex & Vector on JD have been very positive over the years & they really are great sleds for trail riders. To me Yamaha does not know what to do next chassiswise just stuck.... AC has a clear chassis evolution in mind so AC is a perfect fit to add value to Yamaha snowmobile division. Yamaha is an engine company 1st so OEM agreement for engines with AC is a no brainer for Yamaha. For AC to give Yamaha chassis information like they have done is like giving the AC store away to Yamaha they have to be discussing acquisition as the most faverable outcome for AC. If Yamaha walks away from AC with what they have learned it would be very bad for AC & very risky for AC. AC would not break the bond they want to be part of Yamaha best result for them.
I don't read Chris Reed just a waste of time once you take the time to particapte in his polls & years pass without any products you just don't invest the time anymore. TY members are always skybluing stuff that is unreasonable so I don't spend much time there just check in & out quickly. TY is VERY good for Tech info... ask a question & you will get a high quality answer.You make some good points. I do not anything about Chris Reed - just say him quoted on TY.com...
I think 2016 will make it all clear - if Yamaha doesn't have anything new then, it will really seem as if they are done making sleds independently. How old is that Apex/Vector chassis - about 10 years now?
The Apex was released in 2006 & was refined thru 2010. 2011 the Apex chassis evolved to SE,XTX & standard Apex models when eps was 1st introduced & has been refined thru 2015 much like the evolution of the doo XP thru 2015. Unless you follow Yamaha you would think the Apex is unchanged since 2006 since the appearance has not changed much mostly because the core customers like it a lot. Most rider comments about Apex & Vector on JD have been very positive over the years & they really are great sleds for trail riders. To me Yamaha does not know what to do next chassiswise just stuck.... AC has a clear chassis evolution in mind so AC is a perfect fit to add value to Yamaha snowmobile division. Yamaha is an engine company 1st so OEM agreement for engines with AC is a no brainer for Yamaha. For AC to give Yamaha chassis information like they have done is like giving the AC store away to Yamaha they have to be discussing acquisition as the most faverable outcome for AC. If Yamaha walks away from AC with what they have learned it would be very bad for AC & very risky for AC. AC would not break the bond they want to be part of Yamaha best result for them.