Citgo Sea and Snow

[misty_pines]

The Dark Side

Can you mix citgo oil with other or should you empty oil out of tank ? I have a skidoo and it is on a half , will it hurt to top it off with citgo oil now ? Can someone let me know.

Now that I have joined the Dark Side, I feel qualified to answer this question

I would recommend running your current oil down fairly low before adding the Citgo just to be safe. Most oils are compatible so you probably won't have any problems mixing them, but by running down low, there will be less mixing if that makes any sense.

 

[indy_500]

i just figured i'd let you all know that i fried the motor on my indy 500 using citgo sea and snow. i've only been using it for about 500 miles. bye bye citgo sea and snow, i am no longer a believer

 

[latner]

i just figured i'd let you all know that i fried the motor on my indy 500 using citgo sea and snow. i've only been using it for about 500 miles. bye bye citgo sea and snow, i am no longer a believer

that sux. Was it the oils fault?

 

[Skylar]

that sux. Was it the oils fault?

Indy, Indy, Indy, did you tear the motor down and find out what happened?

 

[mjkaliszak]

The oil's fault ?????? You have to be kidding. We just burned down a piston, galled a cyl, split an exhaust valve and twisted the crank out of phase. It's all fixed and I'm still running S&S. It will go another 7100 miles .

 

[sjshaner]

i just figured i'd let you all know that i fried the motor on my indy 500 using citgo sea and snow. i've only been using it for about 500 miles. bye bye citgo sea and snow, i am no longer a believer

Sorry to hear about that. I run S&S in all my sleds, including my old JD Cyclone 340 as premix. I also use it in my weed wacker, and dirt bikes. I will be using it in my boat this year as well now that it is out of warrantee. I really don't know if it is the oil or not, but a friend of mine complaines that I do the absolute minimum in maintanence, some years I even forget to summerize the sleds, and I have yet to do any engine work at all. He has melted 2 cylinders down this year alone (in all honesty due to a too lean condition and pre-ignition.). I do have older sleds though.
1977 JD cyclone 340
1989 Yamaha exciter 570
1993 Polaris Indy 500 Classic
1993 Ski Doo Mach 1 (has 1990 583 engine I bought that way)
1995 Arctic Cat 580 ext
1997 Ski Doo Grand Touring 700 SE
By the way, the reason I started using S&S was strictly the price. I have been using it since 1987 when I bought the JD Cyclone 340 used as my first sled. It was only about $7.99 a gallon back then. This is LONG before I ever heard about John Dee or even knew there was such a contraversy(?) about using it.

Good luck with the sled and remember that you should use what YOU are comfortable with and what YOU want to use and NOT what other people want you to use.

 

[indy_500]

Indy, Indy, Indy, did you tear the motor down and find out what happened?

dealer did, they only charge $55 an hour so i'm assuming my bill will only be around $50, i'm going to part it out. we told them how it's been running and they thought crank seal. found out low compression, scored cylinder, and hole in piston

 

[salmonbum]

dealer did, they only charge $55 an hour so i'm assuming my bill will only be around $50, i'm going to part it out. we told them how it's been running and they thought crank seal. found out low compression, scored cylinder, and hole in piston

You can't blame that on the oil. If its a crank seal you can be running any type of oil and she's going down.

 

[Hoosier]

Well I just had a rod bearing go on my Fusion 600, and the mechanic thinks the problem was caused by the combination of me not fogging it in the offseason and using synthetic oil. Apparently synthetic oil doesn't stay on the bearings very long in the offseason. The sled has seen nothing but synthetic its whole life. I bought it with 200 miles on it, and it had only seen Polaris synthetic from the previous owner (he still had some left that he bought when he bought the sled). All I've ran in it is either Amsoil HP injector or interceptor, both synthetics. Seems to me that I might have been better off running SNS than Amsoil, as SNS is a semisynthetic.

Problem is is that I'm just a keyboard mechanic. Everything I know I learn on the Internet. I don't have that much real world experience with the mechanical stuff, so it's hard for me to feel confident about what is better.

 

[2003polaris]

citgo sea and snow

Has anyone had a problem with there sleds using this oil ? Should you let the old oil run low or mix it , my sled is on a half of tank. People are saying this is bad oil to use. What are your thoughts on this oil. Let me know what you think , and also should I mix it now or let it run low. Thanks

 

[indy_500]

just figured i'd let you all know, my crank bearing went shot and scratched cylinders. pistons r in below average shape but no hole. so shortly after switching to sea and snow the crank bearing went out

 

[salmonbum]

just figured i'd let you all know, my crank bearing went shot and scratched cylinders. pistons r in below average shape but no hole. so shortly after switching to sea and snow the crank bearing went out

Don't just blame the oil. How many miles? How was it ridden? How was it stored? What type of gas? There are more things that make cranks go bad than just oil. Usually a combination of a few.

 

[indy_500]

Don't just blame the oil. How many miles? How was it ridden? How was it stored? What type of gas? There are more things that make cranks go bad than just oil. Usually a combination of a few.

8000, ridden hard, stored in a shed or enclosed trailer, midgrade gas. it was all good until i switched oils at 7500 miles. so maybe i shouldn't be blaming the oil but i feel i have a right to.

 

[harvest1121]

I would blame it on the rider that had more to do with it then the oil.

 

[indy_500]

I would blame it on the rider that had more to do with it then the oil.

hey now

 

[fredster]

I think there is a certain logic to a problem occurring 500 miles after changing oils. However, 8000 miles is a long life for any 2-stroke carb engine. S&S might even be a better oil than what was in there, but it was the change that affected it.....

Years ago I bought my parents car (1996 bonneville) with 40,000 miles and switched from dino to synthetic oil. While it didn't blow up, the oil pan gasket started leaking like crazy within 3-4 months and I had to have the gasket replaced. No one argues that a synthetic oil is inferior, but a different blend can introduce problems.

I HAVE switched everything I have to S&S with no problems - 2000 600 Pol at 2000 miles, now have 5000; 2005 600 Pol at 120 miles, now at 3000; 2000 Seadoo at 70 hours, now at 150 hours; and 2001 Seaoo at 200 hours, now at 275. No problems across the board.

 

[polarisrider1]

It truly amazes me how the S&S folks feel how they have to promote and defend their oil choice. It is like an insecurity thing with them. Who really cares? Burn what you wish. Do it standing or sitting, on trail or off. It's all about the fun.

 

[dave_m]

It'd just because there are sooooo many haters.....


Plus Citgo gives me a free case for every new customer. :>)

 

[harvest1121]

An Amsoil salesmen is like Jim Jones and koolaid.


All ready for the weekend in Rockland. Its not all for me but for my followers.

 

[2003polaris]

Citgo sea and snow

Is this a really bad oil to use . Can you mix it with old oil or let it get low. Why do people put this oil down . Whats wrong with it . I am using it in a skidoo 550 fan cooled . Skidoo oil cost alot . Could someone let me know .