pclark
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Nice.......notEVs submerged in salt water in FL are shorting out and burning. FD says get them out of garage and let them burn out too difficult to put out and ties up FD resources.
Nice.......notEVs submerged in salt water in FL are shorting out and burning. FD says get them out of garage and let them burn out too difficult to put out and ties up FD resources.
there actually might be a bright side to this,Nice.......not
Just like they did with the Mustang!!This right here sums it all up! As much as I love Ford vehicles, Ford completely destroyed the name of what was once one of the greatest limited-edition vehicles and muscle trucks to replace it with this abomination of an electric vehicle.
What is a working man's vehicle nowadays anyways? The idea of that concept is far gone. This thread has shown one big thing. Life has changed significantly for anyone over the age of 50. The lifestyle that you idolize no longer exists, and it will not be coming back either. Business especially vehicles, is not catering to the older customers who want bench seats and V8's. People live off their cell phones, its kinda comical to see some people on here say they wont get one or know people that wont. Not saying there isn't problems with any way you look at things but holy cow some people are out of touch.Not trying to be a wise ass but those two brands are not typically the working mans choice of a vehicle. And yes they are GM.
I totally agree with you on your view of us older people over 50. But is it wrong if I want a V8 Chevy Tahoe instead of a EV that I don't quite trust to get me from point A to point B in the Northwoods? I love technology but I typically don't embrace it right away because there will be bugs to work out with any product, including these new E vehicles. As far as our lifestyle I will only speak for myself, My rule is "I don't tell you how to live your life so please don't tell me how to live mine or criticize how I do". Yes, Companies cater to the youth as they should because I will be only be here another 25 years max. it is their lifeblood. And yes I stream everything and agree it's wonderful. I do all my billpaying online as well as banking and transactions, I live on my cellphone and use Polaris Ride Command when snowmobiling to name a few so maybe not so out of touch?What is a working man's vehicle nowadays anyways? The idea of that concept is far gone. This thread has shown one big thing. Life has changed significantly for anyone over the age of 50. The lifestyle that you idolize no longer exists, and it will not be coming back either. Business especially vehicles, is not catering to the older customers who want bench seats and V8's. People live off their cell phones, its kinda comical to see some people on here say they wont get one or know people that wont. Not saying there isn't problems with any way you look at things but holy cow some people are out of touch.
So many brands what do you think is the working man’s vehicle in 2022? V8s you got to be kidding turbo 4s took over in all wheel cars 2015-2016. Bench seats went out in the 60s buckets took over. Cell phones evolved from bricks and bags to hand held computers took awhile but excellent expensive products now. You wouldn’t be accepted via current values you ain’t Woke at all prejudice of older people and their values. Do you even realize how you sound and how conflicted you are?? Just saying I’m 75 and more open to the world than you seem to be.What is a working man's vehicle nowadays anyways? The idea of that concept is far gone. This thread has shown one big thing. Life has changed significantly for anyone over the age of 50. The lifestyle that you idolize no longer exists, and it will not be coming back either. Business especially vehicles, is not catering to the older customers who want bench seats and V8's. People live off their cell phones, its kinda comical to see some people on here say they wont get one or know people that wont. Not saying there isn't problems with any way you look at things but holy cow some people are out of touch.
X1000!! It's the sheeple attitude "I'll just bend over and grab my ankles because this is just how it's gonna be" that is really dangerous to the American way of life!I totally agree with you on your view of us older people over 50. But is it wrong if I want a V8 Chevy Tahoe instead of a EV that I don't quite trust to get me from point A to point B in the Northwoods? I love technology but I typically don't embrace it right away because there will be bugs to work out with any product, including these new E vehicles. As far as our lifestyle I will only speak for myself, My rule is "I don't tell you how to live your life so please don't tell me how to live mine or criticize how I do". Yes, Companies cater to the youth as they should because I will be only be here another 25 years max. it is their lifeblood. And yes I stream everything and agree it's wonderful. I do all my billpaying online as well as banking and transactions, I live on my cellphone and use Polaris Ride Command when snowmobiling to name a few so maybe not so out of touch?
Working vehicles are whatever works for you, it's why we have choices. My comment on Cadillac and Hummer was directed toward the fact tat if GM thinks they are going to gain market share with those as their EV's good luck. Typically only people with great disposable income buy those two brands.
Don't take my response to seriously, just wanted to let you know a little bit more about me, I don't hold anything against you for the way you think.
Don't mistake my comment that I don't like those types of things. Remember I'm a snowmobilier.... Some of the responses to the posts that grub made just really highlight what I am trying to get at. Maybe its more things are going in two directions which is more pronounced now with technology and social media than previously. People in my generation have never not had technology. They absolutely don't know any different, and yes many might just bend over.So many brands what do you think is the working man’s vehicle in 2022? V8s you got to be kidding turbo 4s took over in all wheel cars 2015-2016. Bench seats went out in the 60s buckets took over. Cell phones evolved from bricks and bags to hand held computers took awhile but excellent expensive products now. You wouldn’t be accepted via current values you ain’t Woke at all prejudice of older people and their values. Do you even realize how you sound and how conflicted you are?? Just saying I’m 75 and more open to the world than you seem to be.
It’s very limited to think at 75 I haven’t or my generation hasn’t embraced technology. I went from radio to tube TVs to flatscreens. Cell phone bricks,and bags to cellphone hand held computers. 360 room computers with punch cards to laptops and the worldwide digital internet. I picked up on technology as it evolved and self taught myself as I embraced it. I also think one should look at the past before modern conveniences and see if you could hack it , harvesting wood for heat and limited digital exposure. I did that for 16 years in Vilas county and was perfectly happy without internet and cell phones. Yes I had direct tv and limited satellite internet but no cell towers or cell phones. Land lines worked better. If EV technology matures I will embrace it if it meets my needs if not I don’t care I’ll find my way that’s best for me. I really don’t care what anyone else prefers EV or Ice do what is best for you. I’m waiting for Grub to post his experience with his Lightening and respect his opinions. I’ve known Grub for many years on JD and he had good information on snowmobile comparos that I mostly agreed with. TL your generalizations about older people and technology are way,way off and you should think long and hard about the limited view of your elders and not threw us under the bus with such a limited view.Don't mistake my comment that I don't like those types of things. Remember I'm a snowmobilier.... Some of the responses to the posts that grub made just really highlight what I am trying to get at. Maybe its more things are going in two directions which is more pronounced now with technology and social media than previously. People in my generation have never not had technology. They absolutely don't know any different, and yes many might just bend over.
you forgot "pager"It’s very limited to think at 75 I haven’t or my generation hasn’t embraced technology. I went from radio to tube TVs to flatscreens. Cell phone bricks,and bags to cellphone hand held computers. 360 room computers with punch cards to laptops and the worldwide digital internet. I picked up on technology as it evolved and self taught myself as I embraced it. I also think one should look at the past before modern conveniences and see if you could hack it , harvesting wood for heat and limited digital exposure. I did that for 16 years in Vilas county and was perfectly happy without internet and cell phones. Yes I had direct tv and limited satellite internet but no cell towers or cell phones. Land lines worked better. If EV technology matures I will embrace it if it meets my needs if not I don’t care I’ll find my way that’s best for me. I really don’t care what anyone else prefers EV or Ice do what is best for you. I’m waiting for Grub to post his experience with his Lightening and respect his opinions. I’ve known Grub for many years on JD and he had good information on snowmobile comparos that I mostly agreed with. TL your generalizations about older people and technology are way,way off and you should think long and hard about the limited view of your elders and not threw us under the bus with such a limited view.
Not sure where you see prejudice. Did I make a generalization sure, but you don't know the type of people I surround with nor did I specifically call you out. If you read comment sections or forum posts you'll see a clear splitting of directions. Those who are open to the landscape changing and evolving good or bad, and those who completely shut it out. The recent Blazer lauch had comments like "I've bought Chevrolet for 50 years ill never buy a golf cart, it should have a 454 in it." Defintiely wasn't the under 35 crowd writing that.It’s very limited to think at 75 I haven’t or my generation hasn’t embraced technology. I went from radio to tube TVs to flatscreens. Cell phone bricks,and bags to cellphone hand held computers. 360 room computers with punch cards to laptops and the worldwide digital internet. I picked up on technology as it evolved and self taught myself as I embraced it. I also think one should look at the past before modern conveniences and see if you could hack it , harvesting wood for heat and limited digital exposure. I did that for 16 years in Vilas county and was perfectly happy without internet and cell phones. Yes I had direct tv and limited satellite internet but no cell towers or cell phones. Land lines worked better. If EV technology matures I will embrace it if it meets my needs if not I don’t care I’ll find my way that’s best for me. I really don’t care what anyone else prefers EV or Ice do what is best for you. I’m waiting for Grub to post his experience with his Lightening and respect his opinions. I’ve known Grub for many years on JD and he had good information on snowmobile comparos that I mostly agreed with. TL your generalizations about older people and technology are way,way off and you should think long and hard about the limited view of your elders and not threw us under the bus with such a limited view.
Sure there will be knee jerk reactions to anything but that ain’t the gospel it’s a simple reaction. Don’t label groups by age or anything else or you will come up short. I listen to all the views from everyone but would never make generalizations by age or put labels on people. If you talk to most my age they really don’t care what anyone chooses to do or do they want to be forced to do anything they don’t choose to do. As you said we are all snowmobilers and I’m sure you remember those that said you won’t get me to go 4s and you will have pull my cold dead hands off my 2s sled. Little by little all OEMs now offer 4s snowmobiles. Lol. Your age comments caused me to defend my generation and my simple advice is don’t go there as it could be interpreted as age discrimination as well as insulting to older people. A forum like this is open communication from all members lots of facts lots of emotion. I find it interesting and informative but I sure don’t make my life decisions or general people decisions based on forum posts of a few members.Not sure where you see prejudice. Did I make a generalization sure, but you don't know the type of people I surround with nor did I specifically call you out. If you read comment sections or forum posts you'll see a clear splitting of directions. Those who are open to the landscape changing and evolving good or bad, and those who completely shut it out. The recent Blazer lauch had comments like "I've bought Chevrolet for 50 years ill never buy a golf cart, it should have a 454 in it." Defintiely wasn't the under 35 crowd writing that.
I watch a lot of football and I thought KC vs Raiders was the game of the year so far. Very exciting and the roughing the passer penalty will be a rule changer. What a fantastic defensive play and fumble recovery then roughing the passer penalty eliminated that and spotted Raiders 3 points. Roughing has to be a reviewable play ball is loose get that ball going to be bodies flying around. Horrible call!Anybody watch MNF last night? Good game. And every other commercial was for an EV. All brands. And all price ranges.
No miles on my Lightning yet as I have been sick. Hope to take it to the lake this weekend and visit Skiroule.