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Interesting read below. A friend of mine sent me this.
Sent to me by a retired executive at Ford Motor Co.
Do not sell your gas vehicle yet
FROM: Dr. Jay Lehr and Tom Harris January 15th 2022
The utility companies have thus far had little to say about the
alarming cost projections to operate electric vehicles (EVs) or the
increased rates that they will be required to charge their customers.
It is not just the total amount of electricity required, but the
transmission lines and fast charging capacity that must be built at
existing filling stations. Neither wind nor solar can support any of
it. Electric vehicles will never become the mainstream of
transportation!
The problems with electric vehicles (EVs), we showed that they were
too expensive, too unreliable, rely on materials mined in China and
other unfriendly countries, and require more electricity than the
nation can afford. In this second part, we address other factors that
will make any sensible reader avoid EVs like the plague.
EV Charging Insanity
In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can
service in a busy 12 hours, an EV charging station would require 600,
50-watt chargers at an estimated cost of $24 million and a supply of
30 megawatts of power from the grid. That is enough to power 20,000
homes. No one likely thinks about the fact that it can take 30 minutes
to 8 hours to recharge a vehicle between empty or just topping off.
What are the drivers doing during that time?
ICSC-Canada board member, New Zealand-based consulting engineer Bryan
Leyland, describes why installing electric car charging stations in a
city is impractical:
“If you’ve got cars coming into a petrol station, they would stay for
an average of five minutes. If you’ve got cars coming into an electric
charging station, they would be at least 30 minutes, possibly an hour,
but let’s say its 30 minutes. So that’s six times the surface area to
park the cars while they’re being charged. So, multiply every petrol
station in a city by six. Where are you going to find the place to put
them?”
The government of the United Kingdom is already starting to plan for
power shortages caused by the charging of thousands of EVs. Starting
in June 2022, the government is restricting the time of day you can
charge your EV battery. To do this, they employ smart meters that are
programmed to automatically switch off EV charging in peak times to
avoid potential blackouts.
In particular, the latest UK chargers will be pre-set to not function
during 9-hours of peak loads, from 8 am to 11 am (3-hours), and 4 pm
to 10 pm (6-hours). Unbelievably, the UK technology decides when and
if an EV can be charged, and even allows EV batteries to be drained
into the UK grid if required. Imagine charging your car all night only
to discover in the morning that your battery is flat since the state
took the power back. Better keep your gas-powered car as a reliable
and immediately available backup!
Used Car Market
The average used EV will need a new battery before an owner can sell
it, pricing them well above used internal combustion cars. The average
age of an American car on the road is 12 years. A 12-year-old EV will
be on its third battery. A Tesla battery typically costs $10,000, so
there will not be many 12-year-old EVs on the road. Good luck trying
to sell your used green fairy tale electric car!
Tuomas Katainen, an enterprising Finnish Tesla owner, had an
imaginative solution to the battery replacement problem — he blew up
his car! New York City-based Insider magazine reported (December
27,2021): “The shop told him the faulty battery needed to be replaced,
at a cost of about $22,000. In addition to the hefty fee, the work
would need to be authorized by Tesla … Rather than shell out half the
cost of a new Tesla to fix an old one, Katainen decided to do
something different … The demolition experts from the YouTube channel
Pommijätkät (Bomb Dudes) strapped 66 pounds of high explosives to the
car and surrounded the area with slow-motion cameras … the 14
hotdog-shaped charges erupt into a blinding ball of fire, sending a
massive shock wave rippling out from the car … The videos of the
explosion have a combined 5 million views.”
We understand that the standard Tesla warranty does not cover “damage
resulting from intentional actions,” like blowing the car up for a
YouTube video.
EVs Per Block In Your Neighborhood
A home charging system for a Tesla requires a 75-amp service. The
average house is equipped with 100-amp service. On most suburban
streets, the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more
than three houses with a single Tesla. For half the homes on your
block to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly
overloaded.
Batteries
Although the modern lithium-ion battery is four times better than the
old lead-acid battery, gasoline holds 80 times the energy density. The
great lithium battery in your cell phone weighs less than an ounce
while the Tesla battery weighs 1,000 pounds. And what do we get for
this huge cost and weight? We get a car that is far less convenient
and less useful than cars powered by internal combustion engines.
Bryan Leyland explained:
“When the Model T came out, it was a dramatic improvement on the horse
and cart. The electric car is a step backward into the equivalence of
an ordinary car with a tiny petrol tank that takes half an hour to
fill. It offers nothing in the way of convenience or extra
facilities.”
Our Conclusion
The electric automobile will always be around in a niche market likely
never exceeding 10% of the cars on the road. All automobile
manufacturers are investing in their output and all will be
disappointed in their sales. Perhaps they know this and will
manufacture just what they know they can sell. This is certainly not
what President Biden or California Governor Newsom are planning for.
You do not need to have an advanced degree in mathematics to
understand the term “Overload”! The average person, no matter where
you live, can quickly identify the political feel-good sensation that
is being attempted by those short sighted individuals who are
promoting the EV revolution ... Vehicle manufacturers, Charging
station builders, Transmission Line contractors, Battery producers,
etc. “It’s Magic”… and you are saving the planet by creating less
pollution as you get rid of your gas burning vehicle and take out a
five year loan to pay for the shiny new $60,000 electric car. No more
fill-ups at the service station and the global warming is solved. You
can now sit back and imagine the new polar ice formations that are
providing a safe environment for the Polar Bears, Seals, Penguins that
we all adore. We have done our part saving humanity .. and you can see
the smile on little Greta Thunberg’s face! BUT WAIT ... why are we
losing power at our house?
Well the short answer is ... We failed to understand that our
electrical grid reached max capacity and was overloaded when all of
the EVs were plugged in tonight at the same time. The next short
answer is ... where do you think the energy came from to supply the
grid in the first place? It sure was not from Wind or Solar ... nor
from any other alternate energy source we use which, when all
combined, only provide 7% of today’s use demand. It was from the
traditional combustible resource called Hydrocarbons!
Until we discover a non-hydrocarbon energy source that is efficient
and safe, GET OVER IT…we are committed to Oil & Gas!
- - - - - - - - - -
Dr. Jay Lehr is a Senior Policy Analyst with the International Climate
Science Coalition and former Science Director of The Heartland
Institute.
He is an internationally renowned scientist, author, and speaker who
has testified before Congress on dozens of occasions on environmental
issues and consulted with nearly every agency of the national
government and many foreign countries. After graduating from Princeton
University at the age of 20 with a degree in Geological Engineering,
he received the nation’s first Ph.D. in Groundwater Hydrology from the
University of Arizona. He later became executive director of the
National Association of Groundwater Scientists and Engineers.
Tom Harris is Executive Director of the Ottawa, Canada-based
International Climate Science Coalition, and a policy advisor to The
Heartland Institute. He has 40 years of experience as a mechanical
engineer/project manager, science and technology communications
professional, technical trainer, and S&T advisor to a former
Opposition Senior Environment Critic in Canada’s Parliament.
Sent to me by a retired executive at Ford Motor Co.
Do not sell your gas vehicle yet
FROM: Dr. Jay Lehr and Tom Harris January 15th 2022
The utility companies have thus far had little to say about the
alarming cost projections to operate electric vehicles (EVs) or the
increased rates that they will be required to charge their customers.
It is not just the total amount of electricity required, but the
transmission lines and fast charging capacity that must be built at
existing filling stations. Neither wind nor solar can support any of
it. Electric vehicles will never become the mainstream of
transportation!
The problems with electric vehicles (EVs), we showed that they were
too expensive, too unreliable, rely on materials mined in China and
other unfriendly countries, and require more electricity than the
nation can afford. In this second part, we address other factors that
will make any sensible reader avoid EVs like the plague.
EV Charging Insanity
In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can
service in a busy 12 hours, an EV charging station would require 600,
50-watt chargers at an estimated cost of $24 million and a supply of
30 megawatts of power from the grid. That is enough to power 20,000
homes. No one likely thinks about the fact that it can take 30 minutes
to 8 hours to recharge a vehicle between empty or just topping off.
What are the drivers doing during that time?
ICSC-Canada board member, New Zealand-based consulting engineer Bryan
Leyland, describes why installing electric car charging stations in a
city is impractical:
“If you’ve got cars coming into a petrol station, they would stay for
an average of five minutes. If you’ve got cars coming into an electric
charging station, they would be at least 30 minutes, possibly an hour,
but let’s say its 30 minutes. So that’s six times the surface area to
park the cars while they’re being charged. So, multiply every petrol
station in a city by six. Where are you going to find the place to put
them?”
The government of the United Kingdom is already starting to plan for
power shortages caused by the charging of thousands of EVs. Starting
in June 2022, the government is restricting the time of day you can
charge your EV battery. To do this, they employ smart meters that are
programmed to automatically switch off EV charging in peak times to
avoid potential blackouts.
In particular, the latest UK chargers will be pre-set to not function
during 9-hours of peak loads, from 8 am to 11 am (3-hours), and 4 pm
to 10 pm (6-hours). Unbelievably, the UK technology decides when and
if an EV can be charged, and even allows EV batteries to be drained
into the UK grid if required. Imagine charging your car all night only
to discover in the morning that your battery is flat since the state
took the power back. Better keep your gas-powered car as a reliable
and immediately available backup!
Used Car Market
The average used EV will need a new battery before an owner can sell
it, pricing them well above used internal combustion cars. The average
age of an American car on the road is 12 years. A 12-year-old EV will
be on its third battery. A Tesla battery typically costs $10,000, so
there will not be many 12-year-old EVs on the road. Good luck trying
to sell your used green fairy tale electric car!
Tuomas Katainen, an enterprising Finnish Tesla owner, had an
imaginative solution to the battery replacement problem — he blew up
his car! New York City-based Insider magazine reported (December
27,2021): “The shop told him the faulty battery needed to be replaced,
at a cost of about $22,000. In addition to the hefty fee, the work
would need to be authorized by Tesla … Rather than shell out half the
cost of a new Tesla to fix an old one, Katainen decided to do
something different … The demolition experts from the YouTube channel
Pommijätkät (Bomb Dudes) strapped 66 pounds of high explosives to the
car and surrounded the area with slow-motion cameras … the 14
hotdog-shaped charges erupt into a blinding ball of fire, sending a
massive shock wave rippling out from the car … The videos of the
explosion have a combined 5 million views.”
We understand that the standard Tesla warranty does not cover “damage
resulting from intentional actions,” like blowing the car up for a
YouTube video.
EVs Per Block In Your Neighborhood
A home charging system for a Tesla requires a 75-amp service. The
average house is equipped with 100-amp service. On most suburban
streets, the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more
than three houses with a single Tesla. For half the homes on your
block to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly
overloaded.
Batteries
Although the modern lithium-ion battery is four times better than the
old lead-acid battery, gasoline holds 80 times the energy density. The
great lithium battery in your cell phone weighs less than an ounce
while the Tesla battery weighs 1,000 pounds. And what do we get for
this huge cost and weight? We get a car that is far less convenient
and less useful than cars powered by internal combustion engines.
Bryan Leyland explained:
“When the Model T came out, it was a dramatic improvement on the horse
and cart. The electric car is a step backward into the equivalence of
an ordinary car with a tiny petrol tank that takes half an hour to
fill. It offers nothing in the way of convenience or extra
facilities.”
Our Conclusion
The electric automobile will always be around in a niche market likely
never exceeding 10% of the cars on the road. All automobile
manufacturers are investing in their output and all will be
disappointed in their sales. Perhaps they know this and will
manufacture just what they know they can sell. This is certainly not
what President Biden or California Governor Newsom are planning for.
You do not need to have an advanced degree in mathematics to
understand the term “Overload”! The average person, no matter where
you live, can quickly identify the political feel-good sensation that
is being attempted by those short sighted individuals who are
promoting the EV revolution ... Vehicle manufacturers, Charging
station builders, Transmission Line contractors, Battery producers,
etc. “It’s Magic”… and you are saving the planet by creating less
pollution as you get rid of your gas burning vehicle and take out a
five year loan to pay for the shiny new $60,000 electric car. No more
fill-ups at the service station and the global warming is solved. You
can now sit back and imagine the new polar ice formations that are
providing a safe environment for the Polar Bears, Seals, Penguins that
we all adore. We have done our part saving humanity .. and you can see
the smile on little Greta Thunberg’s face! BUT WAIT ... why are we
losing power at our house?
Well the short answer is ... We failed to understand that our
electrical grid reached max capacity and was overloaded when all of
the EVs were plugged in tonight at the same time. The next short
answer is ... where do you think the energy came from to supply the
grid in the first place? It sure was not from Wind or Solar ... nor
from any other alternate energy source we use which, when all
combined, only provide 7% of today’s use demand. It was from the
traditional combustible resource called Hydrocarbons!
Until we discover a non-hydrocarbon energy source that is efficient
and safe, GET OVER IT…we are committed to Oil & Gas!
- - - - - - - - - -
Dr. Jay Lehr is a Senior Policy Analyst with the International Climate
Science Coalition and former Science Director of The Heartland
Institute.
He is an internationally renowned scientist, author, and speaker who
has testified before Congress on dozens of occasions on environmental
issues and consulted with nearly every agency of the national
government and many foreign countries. After graduating from Princeton
University at the age of 20 with a degree in Geological Engineering,
he received the nation’s first Ph.D. in Groundwater Hydrology from the
University of Arizona. He later became executive director of the
National Association of Groundwater Scientists and Engineers.
Tom Harris is Executive Director of the Ottawa, Canada-based
International Climate Science Coalition, and a policy advisor to The
Heartland Institute. He has 40 years of experience as a mechanical
engineer/project manager, science and technology communications
professional, technical trainer, and S&T advisor to a former
Opposition Senior Environment Critic in Canada’s Parliament.
